• Kommeavsted@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 hours ago

    Ignoring that IQ is a grift and a lie: Sitting within a standard deviation of average intelligence is NOT a bad thing. If intelligence really could be measured it would mean you’re capable of doing anything about as well as anyone else.

  • Wispy2891@lemmy.world
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    5 hours ago

    I’m sorry to report that in order to see the results, you basically fail the IQ test:

    It’s a very dark pattern, they ask the $2 only after 40 minutes of questions and after getting your email for spam. Then they show that classic fake loading and fake elaborating screens. At that point you’re exhausted and just pay

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    6 hours ago

    How could It be more clear? It literally says in a room of 1000 you’re smarter than 345.

    • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      The funniest part is that only counts if the thousand people are representative of the full spectrum of intelligence.

      Depending on where you are, you may not even be smarter than 345 people. Trump rally? Smarter than 1000 people.

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    4 hours ago

    everyone has something that they are absolutely brilliant about. that they understand and know. IQ tests just test for your ability in taking tests.

  • i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca
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    7 hours ago

    Here I just assumed all online IQ tests always vastly inflated the results to make their idiot users feel smart and hand over money for the certificate or whatever.

  • TerdFerguson@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    The real IQ test is whether or not you give a shit about IQ.

    Everyone who cares about it is some kind of fucking idiot or another.

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      It’s not a terrible metric if it’s used as it was initially intended. IQ was supposed to be a benchmark to show where you’re at, like weighing yourself on a scale. Then you’re supposed to take measures to improve it. It was never meant to be a defining attribute or a contest. Bragging about having a higher IQ than someone makes as much sense as bragging about how much skinnier you are than someone else. Bragging about having a 135 IQ makes as much sense as bragging about weighing 135 lbs.

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        6 hours ago

        Where on earth are you getting this from?

        Galton was a eugenicist who thought intelligence was baked into one’s bloodline, Spearman’s entire career was that the g-factor was a relatively immutable cross-domain constant, Binet was measuring skulls phrenology style, etc.

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        you’re supposednto take measures to improce it

        uhmm? No? As far as I understand IQ tests actively attempt to make harder to get better at them, of course thats a futile goal and as the SAT showed any test can and will be game’d and SAT promptly gave up on that

      • TerdFerguson@lemmy.world
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        in a world full of unregulated ego, nearly everything is used as a basis for a comparison toward the inferiority/superiority dynamic. Someone’s aggregate score for processing information is as valid as anything else.

        It’s the habit of a weak mind, to be doing that.

  • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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    IQ is, for the most part, a stupid measure. Or at least, it measures one specific thing, which is basically how quickly you can learn. That is to say, in theory, if you put someone with a 120 IQ and someone with an 80 IQ into a class, the first one should theoretically outperform the second if they put equal effort in.

    I will say this frankly: I have a very high IQ - I was tested first when I was 6 and have been tested a couple of times since. I do have a learning disability - ADHD - and mine is severe, at that. So while I do generally pick up on things faster than some others on average, I certainly don’t pick up on everything quickly. There are subjects I absolutely do not get. And furthermore, thanks to circumstances and the stupid ADHD, here I am at 50, neve having had steady jobs (I did work 5 years one place), in shitty health (six heart attacks, below-knee amputation, congestive heart failure, on dialysis because my kidneys failed), with my wife and I surviving because while we both had ADHD and struggled, she’s been more consistent about keeping work, and definitely contributes more to the household budget.

    So a high IQ basically means extremely little. You don’t have to have IQ to find success in life, or even to be highly degreed and an intellectual. It just means that you probably have to work a bit more at it. That one specific aspect of life. And there are many many aspects of life.

    • Silver Needle@lemmy.ca
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      8 hours ago

      which is basically how quickly you can learn

      Not even that! IQ measures how well one performs in a barrage of simple abstract tasks. That alone can never be the stuff of intelligence, let alone learning speed. It doesn’t hold a candle past grade four and outside of diagnosing certain cognitive issues.

      I generally agree with your sentiments, I have met people whose IQs I don’t know but would be considered conventionally highly intelligent just from the level of knowledge they broadcast and their quick wit. Many of them self-ascribed “failures”. Suffice it to say, it’s been a mission of mine to deconstruct what intelligence is. Collective smarts seem to matter much more than those of any individual.

    • neidu3@sh.itjust.works
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      High IQ scores mean you’re good at IQ tests, and that’s it.

      Eons ago, when I joined the army as a conscript, the officer said I scored higher than 90% of anyone taking the test.

      The test results implied that I’m smart. My life experiences prove otherwise.

      I always liked putting it in D&D terms: I’m not sure if I have high INT and low WIS, or if it’s the other way around.

    • Fredselfish@lemmy.world
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      Besides all the health issues you’re me. High IQ but the ADHD fucks it all up. I too kept one job 6 years. But that was mostly because it was easy and long as I got my work done my boss let sit and read books. If it hadn’t been for my relaxed boss I would have not stay so long. Hell probably still be there if it hadn’t gone out of business.

      But goddamn I can pick up and learn quickly, but not able to stick to anything and can’t focus to accomplish the things I know I could or want to do.

      • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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        Executive function is the bane of my existence. I’m doing the worst possible work right now - contract work that exists at any time I want to work on it. There’s no deadline, I just pick up a piece of the work and do it. Should take 30-60 minutes per piece. And the pay is decent.

        But getting myself to log in and sit down and work on that is absolute torture.

        But with my health and circumstances, it’s not a bad opportunity. heh.

        I feel ya completely.

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      9 hours ago

      Yeah IQ is bullshit, and the people who use it either as an insult, or a way to boast about their own intelligence, are idiots

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    The site didn’t make clear that’s not a good thing

    Hahahahahaha ha, omg, the irony

    That’s comedic brilliance right there.

    • MissesAutumnRains@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      9 hours ago

      Not to poke extra fun, but they even give examples to better visualize it. 😅 I have to think this post is just a bit of trolling anyway, though.

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    We had an IQ test as part of the performance review process in a company I worked in. It did not have any effect on the review, it was just there. The dudes with IQ above 120 were insufferable to work with. The dudes with IQ below 85 were insufferable to work with. Both managed to do about the same amount of work. The dudes who scored between 100-110 were a pleasure to work with, and practically carried the other two groups.

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      10 hours ago

      Like an actual general intelligence test or a cognitive ability test? Neither should be used in a performance context though so that’s wild. Cognitive ability testing should only be used for selection not for performance the fuck.