cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/8223000

  • A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    I mean... There are better ways to disrupt a business without endangering human lives. That fire could have gotten someone killed.

  • Commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 days ago

    "Working class hero" more like a lone adventurist who's completely disconnected from the working class pointlessly throwing their life away (in prison) for a spectacle and possibly fucking over actual working class organization if the state uses it as an excuse to crack down on them (see: Reichstag)

    • dansemacabreingalone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 days ago

      Ive been to the area. There is no organized left for hours in any direction. There is no organization, just aesthetics. The only option is undividual action.

      • Commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        1 day ago

        Doesn't change the fact that it would still hurt organizing in the future, likely on a federal level if the spectacle is used in such a way, and that this shit doesn't weaken capital at all.

        Individual action in the absence of a movement isn't "the only option" in a sense that there isn't an option other than to organize, as change can only be achieved through unified mass action. It at best achieves nothing (like with Kirk or Luigi), or at worst fucks the "revolutionary object" (i.e. the working class) over like in the case of Reichstag fire.

        • dansemacabreingalone@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          1 day ago

          So youre saying: if The Party cant help you, just suffer quietly until you die in terrible squalor?

          Can... Can i get a tankie 'fuck you thats insane' for some left unity here?

          • Commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            1 day ago

            Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying if you read my comment while being blackout drunk, with a blindfold on, doubled with an immediate hate boner from my lemmy user name and all the bad faith stemming from it.....

            But yeah, the concept that only organized mass action can produce change is so tankie man - what we really need is pointless individual-driven spectacles that have historically been proven to lead nowhere or be actively detrimental to organization attempts that "The Party" has nothing to do with (i.e. independent union organization)!!

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