When the Germans invaded my country in 1940, someone in the street I currently live in was standing behind the window, looking at the approaching soldiers. (I live real close to the border). The Germans, upon seeing him, shot him and he died right there. There’s no memorial, no history book where this guy is mentioned. I only know about this through oral history, my grandfather told my dad and he told me. History is always about the leaders and the armies, never about the civilians.
US just haven’t suffered any big wars on their soil for too long and lost the touch of true misery replacing it with trans issues and shit.
not since the civil war, and that was half-assed because the confederates were allowed to exists even then.
Americans in particular are clueless, war is a game to them and it’s always fought on somebody else’s soil. They need it to come to them for once, maybe if it’s their homes on fire they will finally get it
War Hawks are either cultist or profiting. Sometimes both but always pos.
R/combatfootage is where I sent the blow hards yelling for a US civil war last year.
And if we do war, the first to go are the young and poor.
“You people of the South don’t know what you are doing! This country will be drenched in blood and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war, you don’t know what you’re talking about. War is a terrible thing!”
An oddly prescient quote for our time, I would say.
Unfortunately, the “people of the South” (their leaders, at least) were fighting to preserve slavery, so “a terrible thing” was hardly a deal-breaker for them.
Growing up playing cod and bf games doesnt prepare you for any reality
War is worse then hell. In hell there are no innocents no undeserving but war is full of them
When the allies invaded France in 1944, the first thing they did was move through the nearest towns and shoot anyone they saw. They had to establish a defendable position and had no time to identify whether someone was a French civilian, resistance member or a German.
That’s quite the claim. Do you have a source for that?
From recorded interviews with one of the British soldiers, as featured in the BBC documentary D-Day: The Unheard Tapes.
Thanks!
Born in Normandy, where we were taught about wwii inside and outside of school a whole lot, having grand parents in the resistance. I have never ever heard that.
A lot of the grey areas were suppressed. Because it was a war of goodies v baddies and that was that. In reality war is always baddies v baddies with civilians caught in the crossfire.
I’ve always heard modern missile guidance systems are so accurate they could fly one up the enemy’s asshole and I wonder why not mine?
No no no missiles are dumb and sometimes they accidentally hit schools and hospitals and really all you can just do is shrug 🤷♂️ and say “oopsie doopsie”, because war is hell.
We can send people to the moon but our multi-million dollar jets can’t figure out where to drop a bomb without it striking a school. The tech just isn’t there. The math is just too complex, because I failed high school physics and math is very hard, especially for computers with GPS.
/s if not blatantly obvious. Even with a dumb missle, maybe don’t drop them in close vicinity to these types of buildings? Like, I don’t care who the target is or how solid the intel is, it’s just not worth the chance of collateral damage. If they start camping out near schools or hospitals then either a more hands on approach is warranted, or they aren’t worth the trouble.
I rather believe that missle went exactly where it was programmed to go to. Either that was sloppy and incompetent target selection without enough diligence or someone just vibe bombed Iran with coordinates a LLM regurgitated. I’m quite positive the Tomahawk itself worked fine with precision.
The school building used to be part of a Revolutionary Guard complex — 13 years ago. US didn’t manage to update their intelligence in all that time.
I think Claude essentially did what it thought the US does, so it set the coordinates to some elementary school.
I wonder why not up yours also.
Mines are mostly banned. Unless you’re in the US. We didn’t sign those treaties for some reason…
Or unless you’re in Ukraine. Because in real war noone gives a shit
While that might seem enticing at first, it has a climax that just hits you differently.
hold up. you’re telling me all the movies from the past century that showed war were lying to me??!
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there’s a reason why Vietnam was both the most televized and most protested war in American history.
Americans aren’t keen on reading history. It’s partly how we ended up electing a man who paid smarter people to write his term papers.
Can’t say we’re particularly keen on empathy either.
Call of duty is actually a bad thing. It gamifies war and doesn’t mention the true horrors.
You can spend your life learning from all kinds of directions and still have it throttle your heart some days.
The more you know, and the better something is presented in ways of your understanding and feeling, the better the effect.
I’d argue that a movie could be crafted in two ways (and even more). Could you feel sorry for both parties, if you watched them both?
I’ve seen comments like “Yeah I know X is bad, but I’m confused should I feel bad for them or not” before.The best movie for your example is Passengers. There was a lot of controversy about how it should have been presented, and some even re-edited the film to show the opposite perspective.
I know just enough about war to know I never want to be within a hundred miles of a war zone.
Want to read some good war books that will leave you thoroughly depressed?
Enemy At The Gates: The Battle For Stalingrad by William Craig
And
Hue 1968: A Turning Point of the American War in Vietnam by Mark Bowden
While they cover older wars the damage is the same to civilians. They’re worth the read just to see that war is hell. EATG gives a lot of insight about what happened to the Germans in Russia after the war, too.
