They’re gonna lose then.
The party leaders don’t care, as long as they maintain their proximity to wealth and power.
Dems who support Israel don’t have my support. That said, our system is so f’d I’d rather vote for supporters of genocide than supporters of pedophiles.
Well, it’s not an either or situation. It’s support the party of genocide, or the party of genocide and paedophilia. Easy choice. Even if it’s distasteful.
That’s true too.
All the blue no matter who simps prominently absent from this thread…
DNC is full of AIPAC shills and simps.
Well, slap my ass and call me Sally, I swear I was just reading about how the DNC has been reformed and now it’s no longer the same worthless sell-out bunch of triangulating weasels it used to be.
@someguy3@lemmy.world how are you gonna explain this one away?
Probably by blaming the voters or punching left
GAARGH WHY DO YOU LOVE TRUMP SO MUCH!?!??!!ONE?!
You can get AIPAC money or my vote but never both.
You can represent your own citizens or you can represent the interests of a foreign nation.
I’m still not sure how swearing fealty to another country isn’t political suicide.
- Decades of Israel and their lobbyists screaming antisemitism any time someone was critical of Israel
- “Christian’s” groomed by The Heritage Foundation with a hardon for the kicking off armageddon as laid out in the book of revelations from their bible
The Democrats never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
Dog stays on leash, news at 11:00.
The Epstein class includes Democrats
How can one party be that stupid?
They’re just doing what they’re paid to do. Your mistake is assuming they work for the people, just because their official job title says they do.
99% of politicians work for their donors. That’s where enough money to actually campaign comes from. That may match what the people want/need, or it may not.
The depressing part is how little money that actually comes down to per politician. You want to assume it’s millions, but it’s not for most of them. For most it’s under 50k per year to buy their votes.
This isn’t specific to one party or the other. This is universal across US politics.
It’s their job.
It’s almost like they care more about their donors than the voters they allegedly represent.
THIS is why tippingpoints matter:
Once one is owned, then one cannot undo being owned.
Northern Mexico, being owned by the drug-cartels, is another, different-domain, example: they didn’t prevent being ruled, & now they cannot undo being owned.
It’s actually a fundamental principle: symbiosis turning into reverse-takeover always costs one the owning of one’s self.
Country, political-party, business, not-for-profit, community, charity, language, culture, it holds consistently.
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Once someone gets some hooks into you, your only choice is to rip that hook out.
If it’s a small hook, you might be able to recover your political career. if it’s just a few small hooks, maybe a medium sized hook, you might not go to jail.
but AIPAC is using anal hooks from hell. they started with the small ones, and they’ve been getting progressivley bigger and more numerous, and now… well. I’m not into that.
DINOs.
Nah, the DINOs are the good Democrats. They’re the party outsiders trying to realign the party. The real Democrats are these AIPAC shills. This is the true nature of the DNC as it stands and has stood for a long time.
Democrats have always been a center-right party with a few outliers like Bernie, Sawant, and AOC.
This is why we must vote the lesser evil and focus on changing them via internal reform.
There is no internal reform. Once they’re elected and there’s not much you can do until the next reelection. If you can’t affect senior leadership due to seniority it takes fucking forever for any meaningful change to come. The system is designed to move slowly And resist change.
The primaries are where we push the internal reform. The pitifully low primary turnout is what allows unpopular incumbents to coast on autopilot to the right for the donor money.
Yeah, tell me how that fixes someone like John Fetterman? What do you do when someone turns out to be a horrible asshole? They get to continue to fuck you over for the rest of their term? Or what about someone like Joe Manchin or Krysten Sinema? What are you doing in entire state keeps voting the same asshole in to office?
I don’t mind Fetterman, by my account he was a slightly left Democrat who had a stroke and the brain damage made him conservative. The value we get from KNOWING brain damage is what causes conservatism is worth one traitor.
At the end of their term, the voters go vote for someone else in the primaries, then Fetterman has to try and run as an independent or convince some other party to nominate him. During the term, it depends on the individual state if they have a procedure for the voters to recall an elected official or not (looks like Pennsylvania does not).
Yeah, maybe we should have a politically active, supportive, and prominent figure like David Hogg take a position like VP of the DNC. We will want to play it safe, so he could just focus on safe seats with very old incumbents, and try and guide the democratic party to supporting candidates that even marginally align with their base.
Surely such a gentle approach will be well accepted and we can finally get out some of these DINOs!
I’ll be motivated to do it tomorrow.
I can change her.
I can quit any time I want.
One more lane will fix traffic.
Having a baby will strengthen our relationship.
Folks like you made me realize that you would willingly vote for Trump if he became the “lesser evil” candidate.
“Yes, Trump is a rapist, a pedophile, and a narcissist who only cares about himself. But consider the alternative! The other guy openly admitted to launching gas attacks against Europe during his campaign, and says he’ll nuke Iran the second he becomes president. Trump never did that! Trump 20XX!”
I mean…it sucks to envision phantom insan-o scenarios, but given three years ago I didn’t think we’d be in this one, I’d say yes: If my other choice was a candidate who literally promised day one nuclear war, then I’d be terrified into the choice of voting for Trump. I’d be appalled that those are the choices we’re built to, and would actively seek retribution on everyone involved in those primaries, though.
I was being sarcastic.
I know it’s not popular, but this is how I view it too. To be clear: There is no reason - none - for the Republican party to exist. I almost think some major Democrats might fund them just so that they can have a clear “You gotta vote for us, or you get these lunatics” vibe.
They do nothing for any part of America, and I am personally disappointed in every single individual allegedly-sane allegedly-human consciously voting for them. In a sane world, they would get zero votes anywhere, and I am not okay with a handwave of “yea but you’ll never get Joe Redneck in Montana to vote against them”.
When the vote is 100% democrat, then some intense primarying can happen, fracturing the party into people who actually DO want to help the country. We all know there are at least some of those in the party.
