I can tell you think I used the word wrong and that is proof you don’t understand what is being said.

I’m sorry I can’t understand it for you…

All in blue states and still a very small number relative to the democrats that can win outside of blue states.

In other words they can’t win a nation wide election.

He would never win a nation wide election. Pretending otherwise is pure copium.

Go visit some red states or rural areas of blue states and see how popular Bernie is.

Your only concern is winning the election and not for advancing workers rights.

You can’t advance workers rights without winning elections first

Obtaining power then doing nothing with it is a lost election

Blaming the Democratic Party for the actions of the few that vote against their Democratic party is disingenuous.

Politicians can run as democrats when they aren’t.

Special interest groups can threaten, bribe or blackmail just enough to block legislation they don’t want. Then you scape goat the party that they voted against. It doesn’t make sense.

Yet liberals always come begging for our support

Anyone trying to win will reach out to anybody that can vote and try to win them over. This is how we know leftist aren’t trying to win or maybe don’t realize they are losing/unpopular because their own behavior.

Nope, that’s just lobbyist doing what they do. They can do it to any candidate even progressives like Fetterman and Sinema.

This will not change until Citizens United is undone. If leftists don’t factor this into their strategy then they will continue to lose nation wide.

There are so many ways the billionaire class can influence politicians: blackmail, bribery, threats and there will always be people trying to influence politicians. Pretending this is something the Democratic Party is colluding to is disingenuous.

Trump rose to power because leftists were more worried about “holding democrats accountable” than stopping Trump

Yep, and leftists are the smallest with the least amount of voting power.

If they want to get leftist legislation passed without compromise they have to win over voters until they have enough numbers. Until they do that they have two options:

1. Lose
2. compromise for a win

Attacking the democrats that give leftist a platform is a bad look and one of the many reason leftists are such a small unpopular demographic.

Exactly… for example Fetterman, Sinema, Manchin… I’m starting to see a pattern here

Democrats have won the majority of nation wide elections since the 90s.

Trump lost by a larger amount in 2020 than Harris did in 2024.

If right wingers followed the leftist playbook of not voting Trump would’ve lost in 2024 too.

Leftists are the smallest demographic of voters in a democracy.

Interesting… so that is why leftists consistently lose elections.

They fight to get enough votes to win.

There are no political parties with enough voters to win without winning over voters from outside their group.

Leftists are the smallest voting demographic. If they don’t start taking notes from democrats they will never win a nationwide election.

If leftists are the smallest voting demographic then why don’t they try to appeal to centrists like democrats do?

It seems like leftists do this to lose on purpose so they can just keep complaining without changing anything.

Exactly

With what voters?

Removed by mod

If this post can’t survive on a leftist echo chamber like lemmy without getting ratio’d then how are leftist supposed to do better than democrats?

Voters arent voting for leftists candidates nation wide. That’s a fact, it isn’t “punching left”.

For some reason leftists are more interested in attacking the Democratic Party that gives them a platform than winning over voters.

She did way better than any leftists would’ve done. Just look at nations wide election results or the ratio of leftist candidates and voters compared to other ideologies.

But it is still true that if leftists don’t vote for the left most candidate that the government will slide right. That’s just how democracies work.

Removed by mod