Potato tomato. Neoliberalism (the kind of Liberals the DNC leadership are) is the ideology of Thatcher and Reagan and refers to laissez faire economic policy, not ACTUAL liberty for all.
Democrats for the most part are conservative, ever trying to maintain the status quo and unwilling to try anything else
Yup. Still Neoliberal.
meanwhile republicans are fascist not conservative
Yeah, those fascists are textbook ultra-regressive
Of course, democrats will continue to call themselves liberal
Because over 99% of them are. Liberalism ≠ Leftism.
They’ll also keep calling themselves progressive, though, which IS left wing and thus NOT what the vast majority of Democrat politicians are.
and republicans will continue to call themselves conservative
Because blatantly lying about what they are and what they do is THE pillar supporting all GOP election success since the 60s if not sooner.
no matter how much I insist that they’re wrong
I mean, you’re right about one of them and wrong about the other 🤷🏻
I’ll continue to assert this point whenever a convenient opportunity arises.
Which part(s)? The part you’re right about about, or both?
Part of what I’m complaining about is that groups following an ideology often give themselves names and descriptions that do not accurately describe the ideology. If we accept that and use the labels they gave themselves, then we distort what those words even mean and language is useless.
Imma cherry pick some definitions in order to best make my current point.
Liberal. Adjective.
Favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
Open-minded or tolerant, especially free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.
Conservative. Adjective.
Disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.
I don’t think I need to do a section on “fascist”.
Also also, the word “neoliberal” is absolute syllable salad to me. It’s like it’s trying to pretend to be one thing, but is actually the polar opposite of it. It’s a case of a movement naming itself without regard to what the fuck the word actually means and therefore it doesn’t mean a damn thing. Neoliberal is a name, not a description, for diet republicans.
That’s literally Progressivism. Which ISN’T Liberalism.
Open-minded or tolerant
That’s 1700s Classical Liberalism, when compared to the ultra-authoritarian norms of the time.
Modern Liberalism AKA Neoliberalism is an economic philosophy that is very much capitalist and authoritarian.
Conservative. Adjective.
Disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc
Correct
, or to restore traditional ones
Nope, that’s regression. Easy mistake to make when everyone calling themselves conservative for the past half century have actually been regressive.
and to limit change.
Correct.
Also also, the word “neoliberal” is absolute syllable salad to me.
Bolded the significant part. The “neo” part is there for a reason, as described above.
It’s like it’s trying to pretend to be one thing, but is actually the polar opposite of it.
Nope. Neoliberalism is economically Liberal and can be socially progressive, neutral (most of the DNC) or conservative (most “moderate” Republicans)
It’s a case of a movement naming itself without regard to what the fuck whether or not glitchdx understands what the word actually means and therefore it doesn’t mean a damn thing to glitchdx
Nope, being reactionary means that your actioned and/or opinions are reactions to the actions/opinions of others rather than proactive ie what others react to.
Being regressive, on the other hand, means wanting to regress to a previous state, such as wanting to roll back social progress or otherwise return to how things used to be.
MAGA being a classic example of revisionist regressive ideology pretending that everything was better back when minorities and other vulnerable groups of people didn’t have as many/any rights.
Potato tomato. Neoliberalism (the kind of Liberals the DNC leadership are) is the ideology of Thatcher and Reagan and refers to laissez faire economic policy, not ACTUAL liberty for all.
Yup. Still Neoliberal.
Yeah, those fascists are textbook ultra-regressive
Because over 99% of them are. Liberalism ≠ Leftism.
They’ll also keep calling themselves progressive, though, which IS left wing and thus NOT what the vast majority of Democrat politicians are.
Because blatantly lying about what they are and what they do is THE pillar supporting all GOP election success since the 60s if not sooner.
I mean, you’re right about one of them and wrong about the other 🤷🏻
Which part(s)? The part you’re right about about, or both?
Part of what I’m complaining about is that groups following an ideology often give themselves names and descriptions that do not accurately describe the ideology. If we accept that and use the labels they gave themselves, then we distort what those words even mean and language is useless.
Imma cherry pick some definitions in order to best make my current point.
Liberal. Adjective.
Favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
Open-minded or tolerant, especially free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.
Conservative. Adjective.
Disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.
I don’t think I need to do a section on “fascist”.
Also also, the word “neoliberal” is absolute syllable salad to me. It’s like it’s trying to pretend to be one thing, but is actually the polar opposite of it. It’s a case of a movement naming itself without regard to what the fuck the word actually means and therefore it doesn’t mean a damn thing. Neoliberal is a name, not a description, for diet republicans.
That’s literally Progressivism. Which ISN’T Liberalism.
That’s 1700s Classical Liberalism, when compared to the ultra-authoritarian norms of the time.
Modern Liberalism AKA Neoliberalism is an economic philosophy that is very much capitalist and authoritarian.
Correct
Nope, that’s regression. Easy mistake to make when everyone calling themselves conservative for the past half century have actually been regressive.
Correct.
Bolded the significant part. The “neo” part is there for a reason, as described above.
Nope. Neoliberalism is economically Liberal and can be socially progressive, neutral (most of the DNC) or conservative (most “moderate” Republicans)
Fixed it for you.
Isn’t that reactionary/reactionism?
Nope, being reactionary means that your actioned and/or opinions are reactions to the actions/opinions of others rather than proactive ie what others react to.
Being regressive, on the other hand, means wanting to regress to a previous state, such as wanting to roll back social progress or otherwise return to how things used to be.
MAGA being a classic example of revisionist regressive ideology pretending that everything was better back when minorities and other vulnerable groups of people didn’t have as many/any rights.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactionary
Yeah, your meaning of regressive is actually the meaning of reactionary.