But don’t people believe that people on the Epstein list need to die and are just too afraid to do anything? I got into communism through thinking about things from a utilitarian perspective. Me trading my life for someone who has committed and will continue to commit violent acts is a net positive utility even if it doesn’t cause the revolution. Honestly I don’t really care wether I live or die anymore. Even if my life is objectively fine living in the current system is like living while waiting until I die. So if I’m going to die eventually I might as well die in a useful way right? I am bad at socializing irl so any organizing I will do will probably produce a negligible effect. I feel my death in this way is more objectively valuable than my life. If this is wrong then why?

I was just asking because I thought of the idea… Idk what else to do besides directly finding one of the people on Epstein’s list and trading my life for theirs. If I saw one of them in person I would absolutely do that but idk how to even get close. I could try to form a group but I will absolutely not do that because any other person involved in this plan is a potential liability who could be a fed. So I would have to do that alone. Is someone providing me with advice to do this directly incriminating to the provider (if so please do not provide it I don’t want to implicate anyone here). There are other ways to organize besides this but idk how anything other than forming an entire seperate system of government with some form of enforcement (and no one reporting anyone for breaking laws of the current government would work.) Anything with an actual revolution outright seems impossible in the US without just waiting for it to collapse on its own. At that point I might as well give up directly and move to a socialist state now so I don’t have to live in the US (if I benefit from the system at all without trying to overthrow it I feel like I am doing something wrong. So the only solution is to either overthrow it or leave so that I do not support it with taxes (yes I know taxes don’t directly find the government but receiving less of them slightly accelerated the collapse)). If there is anything else I could do that doesn’t involve instant violence (or planing to commit violence please tell me). Im just tired of libs saying "it’s the legal system’s job to do something (ignoring the fact that the Epstein class directly controls that). I don’t want to be the hypocritical person saying that SOMEONE (not me) should do something. Sorry if I said anything that breaks the rules here I have autism and don’t know how to properly articulate things in a way that sounds normal to people. (Sorry for the text wall and all the parentheses lol).

Isn’t it good for the rest of the world besides the US that they keep failing audits (debt goes up faster accelerating the collapse of the american regime). Like if the US military was actually competent at spending this much the world would be in a lot worse of a situation.

How did no one even bother to check the mods beforehand. This is how stuff like this happens. In any future spaces the mods must be checked

Couldn’t china use ai + survalince to recommend matches based on personality, interests, and behavior (as in what places you tend to visit). If they have that level of survalince already then why not make this a voluntary program.

Do you think we will be able to use this technology in America (even if America bans it)

To be fair I linked my dad good sources like this one for US imperialism and he says it’s “too biased” https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md#pervasive

Also these videos on debunking myths of communism and the other one is the death count of capitalism. https://youtu.be/BeRjTtKFlVM

https://youtu.be/Q5LMxXC8qWg

I just feel like it’s almost impossible to make changes in America with how everyone is afraid of communism and how many still fall for western propaganda. I can’t even convince my own dad that capitalism is the problem. (even if I read theory I don’t think it would be able to convince him). America is the number one blocker of all progress towards a better future. Is there even any hope for a revolution in America or do we just have to hope the collapse causes a civil war so that America can’t lash out at other countries.

Is there a chance that the collapse causes a civil war so that the US will be too busy dealing with that to lash out at other countries? The country is polarized enough that I would think it would just take the right moment to cause that to happen. Other countries could take advantage of the weakness of the US during that time to surpass the US in every field. I feel like if a revolution can not be achieved this would be the best alternative because at least the rest of the world would benefit.

I would have thought a collapse would end more like a civil war due to the polarization of the country. I don’t think the military/corporations could outright seize power without the “justification” of democracy because I would think people would resist that when no longer bound by the laws of the previous government.

Depends on how it collapses. Technically the current president is collapsing American soft power already. He can’t run the government competently which helps to accelerate the collapse. The problem for people living in America while this happens is things will get very bad as it increasingly represses it’s citizens and the class divide will only widen. I do think the collapse of american hegemony is still worth it though for the rest of the world. Regardless of how much we hate the current president we have to admit he has done things liberals absolutely would not have done (dissolve USAID, tariff all countries (this makes other countries adapt and become less dependent on the US), destroying the ability of the us to get rare earths by engaging in a losing trade war with China.) I mean I absolutely hate him but technically he has done more to desolve American hegemony than any other president in history (probably by accident).

I do think that if it doesn’t seem possible for a revolution in America the second best thing is collapse so at least the rest of the world can benefit. The worst thing that could happen is America stabilizing and maintaining hegemony. I am just disturbed by the fact that accelerationism might actually be a valid answer here (not for the people in America but for the rest of the world). If it is a valid viewpoint then why is it banned in r/socialism. I asked here to clarify.

Who is going to legally punish us here. This isn’t normal social media and we don’t give our real names on here so it’s harder to trace it back here

Can you break it down here?

Do you think they would be willing to do a revolution if things escalate or are they more hoping for a democratic solution still?

Also why are they anti communist when that is the best solution to their current problem?

I mainly just wanted to know how current class consciousness is in South Korea and if there is even a chance for a revolution there. I don’t know enough which is why I asked

They keep us fighting amongst ourselves with their propaganda. I don’t get why most people don’t understand that they need to look up, look at the controllers of our society who exploit them. Realize how no one is ever truly happy with their elected leaders. Realize that the capitalist class controls both parties and that neither represents the interests of the people. Everyone knows that our leaders take bribes and we literally just accept this as a fact of life (this shows how much they control the American people).

Shouldn’t stop us from trying. How can it be attempted at least. If no one dares to stand against the capitalists then no change will be made. A leader is needed and if the government dares to assassinate them would it not provide justification to the public for a revolution.

Well the revolution did start that in motion. The revolution itself is important here because without a revolution socialism could not be implemented. Also wasn’t it only socialist until the conditions improved eventually so they would shift to communism. Yes this never happened unfortunately but the intent was there

Yes randomly killing capitalists changes nothing if it is just one. If enough people did what Luigi did there would be no capitalists to control the government. I agree that this alone is not enough but the fact that many people agree with Luigi shows that people are willing to use violence as a solution but are not yet willing to do it themselves. it is up to us to convince them that we can rise up and overthrow the capitalists. .