Goodeye8

Apparently someone kidnapping you, tying you to a chair and sticking a dildo up your ass isn’t torture, it’s just sex. The more you know.

How about this. I’ll change my analogy just for you because your head is so in the gutter you can’t see anything beyond sex. You get waterboarded for 9 minutes or 6 minutes. Do you think the choice matters?

Oh right. I forgot it actually happened because it was such a sham it might as well have not happened. That primary was the equivalent of a democratic election in Russia, which is to say the outcome was predetermined and the rest was just getting the apparatus to show that outcome. If you truly believe that primary would’ve changed anything you’re delusional.

Edit: I’ll also add that the “vote blue no matter who” pretty quickly went to running Cuomo as an independent instead of giving full support to the primary winner, Mamdani. All the slogans of unity and standing together apply only when it’s the candidate the establishment wants.

What primary happened in 2024? Also how did it work out in 2016 when Bernie was running and the party was effectively sabotaging him by backing Clinton instead.

Yeah. And none of it would’ve happened if the democrats had actually tried to appeal to their voters instead of pulling the same “but our hands are tied so we won’t even try” shit they’ve been doing for decades. Do you want a pad on the back for it happening in 2025 and not 2022-2023? Had Harris been voted it would be happening in 2029. You’re missing the big picture. This was always going to happen because there’s no pushback against fascism, there’s only kicking the can down the road.

I can’t say I care what a fascist thinks.

Worked quite well, since the fascist was kept out. That was objectively and factually better option that letting the fascist in. Just because it wasn’t perfect doesn’t mean it wasn’t better.

You donkey, you know what I asked so don’t fucking duck the question. Did you life improve? compared to 2014?

Israel starts razing Gaza to the ground

That started when the supposed non-fascists were in power.

and attacking Lebanon

Has been happening for decades at this and even when non-fascists were in power.

girl schools in Iran get bombed

A girl school didn’t get bombed but Iran still got bombed when non-fascists were in power.

guy who fucks kids gets into the white house

Bill Clinton exists.

global economies suffer, decades long alliances crumble, countries start to run away from America, leading to a economic downturn for the USA

I’m going to throw all of those together because those don’t actually have anything to do with fascism, that’s just having a moron in a position of power. And if I’m being honest, I’d take those over the US having a competent autocrat in power because the rest of the world would be fucked. The amount of power the US has to exert around the world is insane and a competent fascist could easily use it to subjugate even more of the world. The incompetence of Trump is the only saving grace here.

You can live in your magical la-la land where there is a perfect candidate you can vote for without any doubts or conflicting feelings, but here in reality you’ve got to vote based on what the choices are.

Guess what. That is magical la-la land you’re describing is a dream for Americans. I’m not an American and I do get to vote for a candidate that very much represents my political beliefs because our political system isn’t fucked beyond repair.

You do realize the dildo is an analogy for fascism and you just said you do want fascism?

Harris was on the right track in some points but even those those points weren’t good enough and in some cases she ended up campaigning against her own points by refusing to distance herself from the Biden administration.

• Child care should get better but her tax credit is kind of a drop in the bucket compared to the costs of having a child.
• Healthcare should be free not get an extension of reduced premiums
• First time homebuyer tax credit wasn’t enough to make houses affordable
• And her affordability plan wasn’t to make things more affordable

Furthermore people have a serious issue with the economy because things were getting more expensive while purchasing power was going down. Biden claimed everything was fine and Harris refused to oppose that though it was clear to everyone that things were bad. That is what Trump tapped into with his affordability claims. People responded better to a clear lie that acknowledged their hardship instead of ignoring the hardship all together.

The point I’m making is that if the outcome of the vote doesn’t really change anything for you then the vote itself is also meaningless. Let me use a different analogy. Let’s say you don’t like cheesecakes and you don’t like chocolate brownies. What you do like is a nice Creme Brulee. If there’s no option for a Creme brulee and you MUST choose between a cheesecake or a chocolate brownie does it really matter which one you get? You don’t want either of them. So the choice is meaningless.

If this was a restaurant you’d say you don’t want dessert and think to yourself what a shitty restaurant for not serving creme brulees. But because this is the American political system you think it’s logical people shouldn’t except a creme brulee and instead should be happy getting the cheesecake because they’re allergic to chocolate.

And how did voting against fascists work out in 2020? Did you feel like your life improved between 2020 and 2024 or did you feel like you’re still getting the same shit every day except ever so slightly worse?

You’re not voting against fascists. You’re just voting for the people paving the way for fascists. Because your material conditions are going to keep getting worse and worse until you’re so desperate that you turn to fascism in hopes of getting a better life (which just to be clear is always going to be a lie) or you’re going to drown in apathy and not vote and then the desperate voters vote fascism in.

You’re not seeing the big picture here. It doesn’t matter which way you vote, both votes end up going for fascism. The only difference is whether the fascism happens now or later. And you could argue that later is still better because at least it’s not now, but if there’s no escape (which in the current political landscape there isn’t as long as the democrats stay the way they are) that later might as well not exist because fascism would be inevitable. You’re just kicking the can down the road and prolonging the suffering of everyone.

And you get the current American political landscape where democrats have no incentive to do what you want because what are you going to do? Vote for the fascist?

One effective way to let them know is to vote the ones, who have forgotten, out and vote the ones, who know what their job is, in.

And when your options are between voting for the ones who have forgotten and the ones who also have forgotten, what vote do you cast? It’s almost like it doesn’t matter which way you vote, so why vote at all? Maybe if the politicians cared about votes they’d figure out why they’re not getting votes.

Clearly it’s the only analogy that works with you people so I’m going to keep using it. I think it’s weird that you’re defending getting fucked by a 6 inch dildo instead of agreeing that you didn’t want it in the first place.

If they actually tried to work towards getting those things to pass, yes I’d rather have them “lie” and try than be honest and do nothing. Because is it really lying if you’re actually trying to do it?

And there’s no third option because anyone who falls out of line to demand more gets told to fall back in line. Case in point blaming the sitouts. They’re sitting out because they don’t want to get fucked and you’re flaming them for not wanting a 6 inch dildo up their ass.

You don’t get it. This isn’t about Trump anymore. Trump could die tomorrow and America would still stay fascist. You’d get Vance for this term but who is so unpopular he’d give the baton over to Tucker Carlson for the next term and Tucker is going to be a far worse autocrat than Trump because unlike Trump he actually has a brain. The democracy in the US is already dead as far as I’m concerned because you have the nazi party and nazi-later party. You want democracy in America, tell democrats to fuck off until they come back representing the people and not corporate overlords. Or guilliotine the entire political elite and start over with a parliamentary system.

So you’d rather get fucked by a 6 inch dildo than demand to not get fucked as all. Got it.

That is not how representational democracy works. The politicians represents what you want and then you vote for them. It doesn’t work the other way around where you vote for a politician and then maybe they’ll do what you want them to do. Is it their job to know what you want BECAUSE IT IS THEIR JOB TO FUCKING REPRESENT YOU.

It shouldn’t come as a surprise that sympathy towards Israel is waning, there are multiple polls from multiples sources showing that. So why hasn’t the democratic party taken a more anti-Israel stance? Is it because they’re too fucking incompetent at their job to know what the people want (in which case why the fuck would you vote for them in the first place) or is it because they don’t care what the people want because they get money from AIPAC?