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  • I’ve heard many different explanations for the differences, the simplest being the older generation were more moderate and the younger more hardline.

    But I think that’s oversimplifying it.

    One of the more compelling explanations I’ve heard from an Irianan academic is the difference in the wars each generation of leaders were forged in.

    Basically his explanation states that the older generation were veterans of the Iran-Iraq war, which was the largest conventional war since WW2.

    And that was the lens they viewed a potential conflict with America through, purely conventional.

    Whereas the new generation were forged in Iraq and Syria, fighting with asymmetrical warfare.

    Note that this war, while not quite over, has been waged mostly asymmetrically.

    Sure, they used their conventional forces to attack America’s conventional forces, but their primary thrust was exerting asymmetric economic pressure through oil and gas infrastructure and closing off the straight.

    I’m looking forward to reading the historical accounts of this conflict in the hopefully not too distant future.













  • Yes, all adults.

    Unless you’re proposing that these people on your offender lists are only allowed to date other offenders.

    You are saying that person B is not allowed to date person A, even if both adults consent to enter a relationship, because one of those parties can be sent to jail for the crime of entering into a private consensual adult relationship.

    Ergo, you have removed the ability of both parties to have a mutually consensual relationship of their choosing.

    You haven’t even left the confines of Lemmy, and you’re already running headfirst into unintended consequences.



  • The state has different obligations to protect children than they do adults. Which is why we have things like drinking age laws and legal concepts such as in loco parentis.

    You are completely removing the agency of adults to make their own choices, and instead, inserting the government into those relationships, under the penalty of incarceration and government sanctioned violence, for the crime of having an unauthorized interpersonal consensual relationship between two adults.

    And that’s only taking your proposal at face value and ignoring the plethora of unintended consequences, such as perverse political incentives and privatization.


  • they should be disallowed from participating in a close, intimate relationship

    The legal mechanisms required to enforce that would be some form of government permission and approval structure, such as licensing.

    No amount of rhetorical flourish can get away from what they are essentially presenting, which is requiring government permission for interpersonal relationships.

    How would the government track an individuals approval for personal private relationships?

    How would the government enforce penalties on private citizens who engaged in an unauthorized private relationships?

    And then we get to some fun questions, like what happens if the government privatizes the relationship approval system that OP is proposing?