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  • Well argued. I’m not going to fight my position. US is surface level very obviously violent, but Israel is the one which works behind the scenes and sets up elaborate schemes to treat many other brands of humans worse than we treat cattle.

    America you can avoid by no longer using silicon valley garbage and just not going there. Israel is everywhere, behind the scenes buying the politician you voted for more than 10,000km away from Jerusalem, just to make sure you don’t shout on the streets that Palestine should be free.

    Israel is covert and cloak and dagger. Journalists are killed first. At least in the US, it is still being filmed and rapist soldiers wouldn’t get sent straight to the battlefield.

    Happy to give the top award to USA, Israel and Russia all together at the same time.



















  • The word you’re looking for is zionist.

    Jewish people often struggle with the difference themselves. The zionists are the crackheads who think they own Jerusalem and a wide circle around it because some mythical figure with advanced tech will land there, and only there, at a difficult to determine time in the future, and only will do so if they murder everything that isn’t them in a 100 mile radius.

    They also have successfully infiltrated most of the banking world, corporate media, and are now beginning to take over western state media as well.

    They have at their disposal the biggest intelligence apparatus in the world, capable of compromising and blackmailing american presidents.


  • Ok. Last response

    Israel, as the stronger side, has a moral duty to restrain themselves and consider the way their actions affect Palestinian civilians.

    If you only stop there. This has been the case since their formation, and they have never shown any restraint, or understanding for said “moral duty”

    But that doesn’t mean Hamas are excused from any moral consideration, and at the very least have a duty not to target civilians specifically.

    And this is why you are a zionist apologist. You are the parent that tells their kids “if you get beaten up at school, jesus teaches us to show the other cheek”. I’m the parent that says, if you don’t stand up to a bully, nobody else will do it for you, and once they’re finished bullying you, they will keep bullying others.

    And they should be scared shitless about Iran attacking them. Wouldn’t you? After they assassinated your religious leader and an entire school full of girls. And that happened in the first 2 days of the war. And now they are doing the same in Lebanon. Over 300 dead to get a few “terrorists”.

    And that’s what they do during wartime. In “peacetime” they go underground and set up elaborate lobby groups like AIPAC and use agents like Epstein to play the long game, so when they do radical genocide like this, the media and the biggest military police force are all in their pocket. All because they believe some vague ancient scribbles and think they own humanity.

    Anyway, you’re in the wrong place if you think you’re going to change anybody’s mind here.


    1. I agree withdrawing from the agreement was dumb.

    Well, we’re on the same page then.

    I know we’re not, but we’re too far apart to ever reach consensus. You think you’re being reasonable but really are just pro-zionist, where I think muslims, arabs and generally non-white people are supposed to live in that area, and the Anglo-American colonisation made a lot of mistakes, and this is one of the biggest ones.

    I have huge problems with Islam (well, pretty much every religion really) and the way they treat women and protestors. But Iran has a right to self determination. They are allowed to have a nuke just as much as anyone else. Ideally nobody has one, but since radical zionists have them, and North Korea has them, and Putin has them, they can have them too, because we see with Ukraine what happens when you give that up.

    If you make a list of aggressions, you’ll see that Israel is permanently and non stop attacking and provoking every non-white neighbour around it. And they are going mentally fast now, before america completely collapses.

    Of course Hezbollah and Hamas are annoying little terrorists. But they aren’t backed and aren’t blackmailing the mightiest nuclear power in the world. They are standing up to a mega bully, and apart from Iran, very few people have their backs.

    Iran was never going to have nukes as an offensive weapon, just to establish MAD, because bibi has been wanting to attack them for nearly half a century.

    As I said, there is no bridge long and strong enough to connect our viewpoints, but this is mine.