I’m working on a Project that Prominently Features a Red PETG Top Surface that after the Printing is done gets Sanded with Grits from 400-2000 +Heat Treatment.

There is a Big Issue tho, After the Sanding is done, I can Rather Prominently see the Walls and Infill of the Layers Below. At first I suspected that I just sanded too much and that the internals weren’t really filled in 100% as they should, but after some testing and Closer Inspection, it just seems the Red PETG is just Transparent enough that I can see the layer below…

So how do I stop this from Happening? Thus Far I played around with Fan Speeds, Nozzle Temps (±10°C), Layer Hight and Ironing all Solid Layers with Mixed Success, non Satisfactory enough however…

  • elucubra@sopuli.xyz
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    2 days ago

    I mainly use Elegoo Rapid PETG. I hated PETG because of it’s very low speed, but this filaments is a real game changer. Prints fast and easy. A bit stringier than PLA. Idry it before storing, which helps a lot. I don’t think I have seen anything inside with 3 or more top layers. What filament are you using?

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    3 days ago

    To continue using the filament you have, you’ll need more top layers as suggested already. The other alternative is to buy a different brand of red PETG with lower light transmission.

    I mostly print in PLA, but there are some brands that are almost translucent while others are opaque after a 0.2mm layer or two and this is all just basic color PLA not anything fancy like silk or the like.

    Also you might try lowering the infill. 100% is typically pretty excessive for strength purposes (60-70% is enough) and ironing the top surfaces might help reduce the amount of sanding needed.

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    3 days ago

    I would try adding more top layer shells. That way there’s more plastic between the surface and the first infill layers.

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        Infill is different from top layer shells. The infill is a different pattern from the top and bottom layers, and a different pattern from the walls.

        Usually the top/bottom shells are set to 5 by default, and the walls are 2. If you bump the top and bottom layers to something like 10 or 15, they’ll be much thicker before it switches to the infill pattern.

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          3 days ago

          So No matter what I try, It only does Infill before 1 Layer of Top Surface. No settings seem to trigger anything else. Even putting infill at 0% makes it just hollow instead of producing more Top Surface Layers…

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            3 days ago

            It isn’t an “infill” setting. It’s “top/bottom” settings. I don’t what slicer you’re using, but every slicer should give you the option to set the number of top layers and bottom layers.

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              2 days ago

              Yes, top layer is set to 5 layers yet it only does 1 Top Layer since thats the surface. Rest is handled as Infill.

              I tried everything from 1-100 Top Layers, nothing changes. Insides still get printed as Regular Infill.

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                2 days ago

                Can you please upload some screenshots of the model you’re printing in the slicer, and the related settings? That’s really odd behavior.

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    3 days ago

    Any filament will have some non-zero transparency when laid in a thin layer. Additionally the bridging across infill will add some surface distortion that can also be visible.

    Is this a multicolor print with a filament swap?

    Add more 3-5 more top layers of red petg to make it more opaque. It may also help to use a different infill style, like lightning, or increase density/add multi-line.

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      3 days ago

      The Infill is 100% for the entire Object. Yeah it is a Multifilament system swapping once between black and red PETG