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    you mean everyday workers hunting those masked ICE pedos ?

    how do we donate toward making this real ?

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    After seeing that betting site prediction about Trump mentioning Allah a second time, nothing can phase me for this year. (Maybe even until 2028 or his funeral. Whichever comes first)

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    13 hours ago

    Nazi Holocaust supporters share this type of stupidity…

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    Let’s just call them immigrants or undocumented. “Illegal” just makes them sound like rapists and murderers.

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        Also, being an alien is not any sort of wrong. People going through the formal authorised pipelines are also aliens.

        Somehow people have heard the term “illegal alien” and have decided that they can drop the word “illegal” and retain the same meaning.

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        It is illegal and it is a crime and that makes doing it fucking cool and i will buy you a beer or joint or something for being that cool, and also for ‘welcome, death to the state’ reasons.

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            It’s more complicated than that.

            Most immigrants without proper documentation arrived legally and therefore haven’t committed a crime, they overstayed or fell out of status, which is civil.

            But people who enter or reenter the United States without permission CAN face criminal charges, specifically under 8 USC section 1325 (improper entry, a misdemeanour) and section 1326 (reentry after deportation, a felony).

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        Yeah a lot of people don’t realize that being in the U.S without like asylum status or a green card, work visa, whatever. … Yeah it’s not illegal.

        You can get in some trouble in the form of deportation and restricted from coming back.

        But on the books. It’s not illegal.

        Thats what the magas don’t get either. “Well they shouldn’t have been here illegally”

        They weren’t. No one is here illegally because there are no laws against it. Just regulations.

        This is also why it actually is illegal to arrest them and put them in prisons or long term camps just for being undocumented. That’s kidnapping and illegal imprisonment.

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            Immigrant here, asylum specifically.

            You usually document yourself when applying to USCIS for an employment authorization card.

            There are people working without it but that’s usually either to pay for the USCIS application fees or not starving to death while you wait for the card to arrive (took 1 year for me)

            Also even “illegal” immigrants are mostly asylum. You can’t wait in their country for asylum application to process while your government is trying to arrest/kill you.

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              It still a violation of immigration rule no offense. But knowing how muslim countries treating minority the situation is understandable

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            They document themselves.

            If they don’t, well. Who cares ?

            Most places won’t hire undocumented. That actually is illegal.

            If they commit crimes they get arrested and deported.

            If they aren’t committing crimes then why do I care if they are here or not?

            They can’t get food stamps or unemployment. They don’t drain any resource.

            Most undocumented people here in the U.S are here for family reasons. Asylum. Or sometimes work related. Not nefarious reasons.

            If they are criminals then they are illegal and police should nab them. Send to prison or deport.

            If we made it easier to self document and allowed to stay, more people would register.

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              People document themselves when registering visa, if they don’t do or stay longer than permitted it is violation, duh. Is it needed an explanation?

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            The word illegal does not imply civil versus criminal you dumb fuck. Also, something being illegal does not even imply that its immoral. But hey what does anyone care about facts nowadays.

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          It’s like a parking ticket. Is everyone who had a traffic violation now an illegal person?

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              civil violation, should we jail people who parked illegally? rather than a fine? should you get deported if you park in the wrong place? Should parking violations be part of people’s criminal history?

              imagine being unemployable due to a parking violation.

              civil violation ≠ crime, and doesn’t make someone illegal

              someone cannot be illegal, they can do illegal stuff but you cannot be illegal.

              Existing isn’t a crime.

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              Yes, exactly like that. The act is illegal. Not the person. It’s not even a felony for heavens sake.

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            In the US, government agents will issue an arrest warrant if you get a traffic violation then fail to participate in the legal system. You have to show up in court or accept default judgement and pay the fine.

            It’s the same with “illegal immigration” except you go into the federal Homeland Security system where the feds are above the law, and the default judgement is “deportation”, which is technically exile unless they send you back to the country you emigrated from, which they put no effort into figuring out.

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              “fail to participate in the legal system”

              Given my own experience with a brother-in-law being deprorted to a country where he cannot legally work, this sounds like a euphemism. We participated in the legal system, lawyers and all.

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    The meme drag pedophiles so hard, you barely notice that it dehumanizes refugees to the same degree.

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      I agree, this is basically an attack at many individuals.

      Atleast, the meme mentions “sex offenders” which is more accurate than pedophilia.

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    Would it be in bad taste if I, an american citizen since birth, dressed up as mexican and helped?