I recall a story of tens of thousands of black people marching towards Washington and the government panicking, shortly before the Civil Rights Act was passed.

Rallies are where you go to learn how to be a good leftist and get used to resisting the state. And they’re where you go to tell leftists about serious events they might want to attend. And they’re where to go to threaten politicians with serious consequences if they don’t do the thing.

Earth! Earth! Earth! Earth!

I was looking through the community history, and there was another one a few weeks ago!

I didn’t bring any electoralist apologia in. In fact, I was criticising the electoralists who are so determined to effect change with their votes instead of direct action, that they’re withholding their votes to try and influence electoral politics.

No, you libs keep fucking it up. In 2020 you showed up for Biden, but then you got so mad he wasn’t improving things that you decided to withhold your vote, and made everything worse.

If you don’t care about them they won’t care about you

I agree. If you don’t vote, then on their spreadsheets you’re part of the statistic labelled “apolitical”. You’re talking about sending a message to influence electoralism. The message you’re sending is that you’re a centrist. So I’ll take you at that message and call you a centrist.

And you’re the reason they’re going further to the right. If there were more leftists in their spreadsheets, they’d be going left. You liberals are the reason for the fascism we’re experiencing.

So given that db0 used the term, you’re saying he’s a jackass and perhaps a ptb?

I’m not trying to effect change with my vote, unlike these liberals. I vote to keep the fascists out of the white house while I focus on direct action and community building. These electoralists are trying to send the Democrats a message by not voting, as if those bourgeiosie would ever listen to us plebs.

Rule 7 literally says turbolib in the rule description…

I see plenty of accounts posting anti-anti-electoralism and they seem to follow a different set of rules than the rest of us.

Rule 7 is against liberals

Calling meat-eaters nazis makes me a liberal? Ye gods, next they’ll say blowing up oil pipelines makes you a liberal.

I’m pro-anti-electoralism, as that post clearly demonstrates. What I have a problem with is turbolibs going into anarchist spaces to post ragebait designed to stir up infighting over whether we should strategically withhold our votes to try and influence the democratic nomination, when there are actual problems facing the most vulnerable in our communities. You and your liberal alt accounts are trying to convince the rest of Lemmy that whether you vote is the most important issue facing the communist movement.

I’d expect such lies from an an electoralist like yourself. Quit obsessing over the Democrats, your ragebait is only helping the bourgeois

You electoralists have been trying the same schtick for 100 years. In 1931 it was “after Hitler, our turn!” It didn’t work.

You cannot change the system by withholding your vote, it’s not designed to allow that. Your vote is only good for preventing change while you focus on direct action to overthrow the state. Quit focusing all your efforts on the Democrats and start focusing some effort on the soup kitchens, the community gardens, the workshops, and the neighbourhood watches. Those associations can do some tangible good now, and can be turned into supply lines when we have enough mass for the revolution.

I think you’re a liberal because you’re obsessed with electoralism and willing to use your vote as leverage to squabble over the democractic nominee while the Nazi party is rounding up BIPOC and sending them to the concentration camps. You’re spineless and cowardly and you’re doing nothing but getting in the way of the communists who are working to stop the genocide and overthrow capitalism. I don’t care if you call yourself an anarchist, you’re about as liberal as Kamala Harris and equally electoralist.

I know you electoralists want to make a statement to influence the candidates by being all strategic with your votes, but I’m against all that shit. I just want to get ICE off the streets so we can focus on direct action to help the community.

Please don’t shame me for being anti-electoralism again, liberal.

I agree, Asset Based Workforce Development is a cancer. Which is what I assume your FLAI means

You’re right, socialists like Mamdani are electable. They stand the best chance of delaying the dictatorship long enough for us to build our supply networks and train our militias.