Children of the victims had to take Gilbert, their beloved golden retriever, to be put down, the chair of the DNC claimed.

Children of the victims had to take Gilbert, their beloved golden retriever, to be put down, the chair of the DNC claimed.

  • Boddhisatva@lemmy.worldEnglish
    235·
    10 months ago

    Republicans sure love shooting dogs. I thought Trump would just pardon the guy. Now I think he’ll nominated him to a cabinet position too.

      • Boddhisatva@lemmy.worldEnglish
        26·
        10 months ago

        I’m afraid I must disagree. The right, in general, don’t care for dogs any more than they care for any other livestock. There are exceptions, of course, but in general they care about them as tools. Guard dogs, hunting dogs, great, but if that hunting dog misbehaves, they have no problem taking it straight to the gravel pit like Kristi Noem did. You even point out in your post that cops in the US shoot dogs at a mind boggling rate. Well, those cops are predominantly aligned with the right, are they not?

          • BossDj@lemm.ee
            18·
            10 months ago

            Republicans only care about themselves. So they care about THEIR dog, THEIR family, etc. anything or anyone else is “others” that can burn for all they care. You see it when some of them suddenly support homosexuality when their kid is gay and “oh, so it’s actually NOT a choice!” But they’re also more likely to disown their kid or shoot their dog if it doesn’t meet their expectation or fit in their world view.

          • meco03211@lemmy.world
            7·
            10 months ago

            will not EVER be able to separate themselves from their limited scope…

            If they can’t be changed, then what?

      • Taldan@lemmy.world
        16·
        10 months ago

        They actually love dogs a lot.

        Despite all evidence to the contrary, you have quite the conviction. Quite the dedication to defending a terrorist

        Boelton shot their family dog after murdering both parents. Kristi Noem murdered her family dog because she didn’t want to train it and was promoted to a high level cabinet position

        Police, by your own admission, kill many family dogs. Police also heavily skew conservative

        In spite of all that you think this administration and its followers love dogs?

      • Kickforce@lemmy.wtf
        3·
        10 months ago

        Just wanted to say, in the face of downvotes and angry replied, that I think you are absolutely right.

          • Kickforce@lemmy.wtf
            2·
            10 months ago

            We are, despite centuries upon centuries of evolution, civilization, philisophy and education, deeply tribal creatures. While right wing propaganda most blatantly and directly calls upon our tribalism to dehumanize the “other” of the day, it is a trait we all share. Frankly when you look at how far some people take the denial of easily verifiable reality to stick to a feeble story and prop up the most deplorable of men, it’s easy to feel they are terminally lost and can no longer be part of any kind of moral and positive society. But that way we just end up dehumanizing them as much as they do to us.

            Even as they have been brainwashed and molded to be perpetually scared and angry and to reject other feelings, they are people nontheless who need to be treated fairly.

            To some extent I understand that murderer, misguided as he is. It would, for me be a better world if I could remove people I see as harmful to the world from existence. If someone were to remove a bunch of republican supporting billionaires, the whole of that parties leadership and the heritage foundation from the world I would not be angry at all. Not because I hate them. I don’t really, I don’t know them personally. But because they are so harmful to all of us.

            We may say things like “eat the rich” but we don’t really do that, at most we affectionately nibble a bit, without breaking skin. I’m too well aware that to people who live in actual abject povery, my middle class ass could be part of the group of rich folk on the menu. Once we start killing the people we see as harmful, where do we stop. Where do we draw the line? Who makes the grade? We could easily end up in a situation where, like in post revolutionary China or France anyone could be accused and convicted for not being revolutionary enough. Accused by an angry neighbor, a jealous lover or your own kids.

            So while I understand the feelings that lead to the actions, I cannot condone murder, nor do I take such action myself, besides, I have a job to do, kids to care for, bills to pay etc, etc, etc.

            And no, I have no solution for any of this, it’s way too complex to solve with rigid ideology or easy to shout slogans.

  • kn0wmad1c@programming.devEnglish
    62·
    10 months ago

    Here’s a guy who killed two prominent people, shot two more, and a rescue dog.

    I hope they at least give him the Luigi treatment.

    • TheLowestStone@lemmy.world
      86·
      10 months ago

      I hope they at least give him the Luigi treatment.

      Luigi, or whoever actually did it, had the decency not to harm anyone’s family or pets. This motherfucker deserves far worse.

      • meco03211@lemmy.world
        31·
        10 months ago

        I agree. But on the other hand, it seems like they’ve gone above and beyond “normal” in their approach to Luigi. I wanna see this MAGAt perp-walked in full shackles like they did Luigi.

      • Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world
        17·
        10 months ago

        Luigi actually saved lives though. The assassination of Brian Thompson was a stated symbolic protest against insurance practices that deny life‑saving care intended to spotlight and stop those denials. His act sparked intense public outrage media attention regulatory scrutiny and investor backlash which pressured UnitedHealth to soften its claim‑denial practices and approve more life‑saving care. That shift led to higher costs. Lower profits triggered the largest one‑day stock drop in 25 years and prompted a class‑action lawsuit by investors.

        Luigi set out to right actual wrong and literally saved lives in the process

        https://www.cbsnews.com/news/unitedhealth-investors-lawsuit-brian-thompson-luigi-mangione/

        • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
          5·
          10 months ago

          It’s simpler than that. Someone (not Luigi) stopped a Corporate Serial Killer that was responsible for the deaths and suffering of millions of people in the past, and millions in the future. Whoever killed him acted in defense of others, and is not guilty of murder. He should get a medal.

        • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          2·
          10 months ago

          He didn’t do the crime, but he is a hero going to be martyred for it anyway.

          FTFY. His heroism isn’t due to the fact that he did it; It’s due to the fact that he’s obviously being railroaded, and has decided to fight like hell instead of simply accepting it.

    • NoNotLikeThat@lemm.ee
      6·
      10 months ago

      I read this story hours ago and it’s stuck with me all day. It’s one thing to be mad at those you feel wronged you; harming an innocent (human or animal) is so despicable it’s inexcusable. I bet that Golden was among the purest best boys on Earth (they all are).

      It’s a good thing I’m not in charge of this pos’ confinement, otherwise he might accidentally find me busy tying my shoe while he’s breaking his neck and dying a slow, excrutiiatingly painful death.

  • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
    19·
    10 months ago

    Of course he did, he’s a Republican psychopath. They don’t understand why people have pets.

    • Makhno@lemmy.world
      2·
      10 months ago

      What a stupid, reactionary comment. Literally Hitler loved dogs. Compassion for animals doesn’t mean you aren’t a massive peace of shit that deserves death.

      • supernight52@lemmy.world
        17·
        10 months ago

        Pretty sure this has more to do with the fact that the current GOP has one Kristi Noem that killed her dog because it annoyed her. Try to keep up.

      • barneypiccolo@lemm.eeEnglish
        12·
        10 months ago

        Don’t forget, Hitler loved children, too. He’s such a misunderstood guy, just because he supported genocide. He was a lot more complicated than that. /S

      • LordGimp@lemm.ee
        5·
        10 months ago

        Hitler was a sociopath. He understood that other people liked dogs, and used it as a smoke screen to make himself seem more neurotypical. Nobody likes a freak at the eugenics party.

          • LordGimp@lemm.ee
            1·
            10 months ago

            I prefer audiobooks.

            As a welder, I don’t really need my ears to do my job, so that frees me up to listen to stories at work. It’s great. It’s like a movie playing in my head while I zone out.

            There’s also something very addicting about zoning out while holding something hotter than the surface of the sun in your hand, all casually and shit.

  • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
    14·
    10 months ago

    It’s fucked up, but there will be people more upset that he shot a dog than that he shot four people, killing two of them.

    Edit: are you downvoting me because you think I’m wrong or because you think I’m right?

    • School_Lunch@lemmy.world
      42·
      10 months ago

      It just depends on what perspective you choose. Obviously human life is more significant than dog lives, but a lot of people see dogs similar to children. A life of love and innocence that does not deserve to know violence. It’s not so much comparing the value of lives but the value of innocence.

      • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
        10·
        10 months ago

        Except that’s my point. The people he assassinated were also innocent. The people he tried to assassinate were innocent. This wasn’t like a mob hit or an act of war. This was a terrorist attack.

        • School_Lunch@lemmy.world
          30·
          10 months ago

          What I mean is that people will usually see dogs as more innocent than even the most innocent human adult. Literally how most people feel about children. That type of innocence deserves to be protected, and failure to do so hurts more than the death of a stranger. It’s not rational, but it’s just how a lot of people feel. If those same people were to think about it rationally, they would say the loss of human lives is definitely worse.

    • paraphrand@lemmy.worldEnglish
      18·
      10 months ago

      You brought no proof that people care more for the dog. It’s just a nonsense post looking to talk shit about people.

      • meco03211@lemmy.world
        10·
        10 months ago

        It’s not about talking shit. It’s about feeling morally superior to some imagined adversary.

      • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
        2·
        10 months ago

        There are people in this thread who are confirming that people care more for the dog. If you think those people don’t exist, I’m not going to have to provide proof. You’ll see it in the coming days and weeks.

    • Album@lemmy.ca
      12·
      10 months ago

      Personally, I’m not sure what the point of this statement is. It’s not about whether or not it’s right or wrong. Let’s just for the sake of argument, assume that it’s objectively correct. So what? How is saying this, or identifying generically that some people inevitably have their priorities mixed up, a meaningful contribution to the topic?

      At best it comes across as cynical. And then you’re thinking “it’s not cynical if it’s true”… But we’re all thinking that it’s cynical because it lacks pointed meaning.

      It’s like a teenager got on the Internet, read something, missed the point entirely and instead says “but what about this indirect incorrectness thing that is otherwise unrelated” for no reason other than to be edgy or sound smart.

      • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
        1·
        10 months ago

        So what?

        So it’s fucked up. Four people were shot by a terrorist, two of them have died, and there are a significant number of people who didn’t care until they learned a dog was also killed. That’s fucked up, not because people care about a dog, but that they didn’t care about the people.

        Frankly I didn’t expect saying so to be met with such hostility. That bothers me almost as much as the lack of respect for human life.

        • GiantChickDicks@lemmy.ml
          10·
          10 months ago

          When you’re done savoring the smell of your own farts, think about what you said. You went from claiming many people care more about the dog than they do the human murder victims, then you jumped to saying people didn’t care about the humans at all. These are very different things.

          Different people have different values, and these values are shaped by a variety of circumstances. I may not agree with these values or the reasoning behind them, but there are plenty of factors I can think of why some people who aren’t sociopaths may have a reaction like this to stories like these.

          In the end, it matters to me more that people care in this situation than why they care. Holier than thou purity testing only divides us further, so trying to understand where people are coming from before you generalize and write them off is a much better strategy if we want more allies to help in this mess. We’re going to need all we can get.

        • Album@lemmy.ca
          2·
          10 months ago

          So it’s fucked up.

          Ok and? It’s clear you don’t even know what your own point is. That’s why you get down voted.

          That bothers me almost as much as the lack of respect for human life.

          Sounds like work for your therapist.

    • slothrop@lemmy.caEnglish
      9·
      10 months ago

      Edit: are you downvoting me because you think I’m wrong or because you think I’m right?

      Yes.

    • IceFoxX@lemmy.world
      6·
      10 months ago

      Animals don’t understand our language, they don’t understand our actions and they don’t know the consequences… So the US citizens have had so damn much time to defend democracy… but they only started when fascism was enforced and it was really already foreseeable where it would end… With flowers against batons, tear gas, weapons in general. As soon as the Republicans start the large-scale purge it will.
      With flowers against assault rifles, tanks, etc. So my sympathy is very limited.

  • Eggyhead@lemmings.world
    13·
    10 months ago

    I’ve heard he was a big Trump fan and now I see he’s a maga madman, at what point was his political alignment ascertained? Does someone have an article they could point me to? Particularly one from a source that couldn’t be easily construed as biased if I were to share with a right winger?