• Venia Silente@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    Well with women having these on hand at least the incels will finally achieve one of their objectives:

    Women thinking they’re smokin’ hot.

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    2 months ago

    And yet somehow I feel this might not be the best path forward.

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      2 months ago

      Well… let’s try it out for a little and see what happens.

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        Typically without solid training what happens is the weapon gets turned on the wrong person.

        But, for the sake of a good time we can imagine some asshole pervs getting lit up like a cigar. Heh heh. Awesome.

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          Honestly, I hope it is more deterrent than anything else

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            Idk, having something that could melt metal from a safe distance as a deterrent seems a bit overkill. But don’t take my word for it, I might be overreacting.

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              It’s just running on butane - it won’t have enough heat mass to melt metal (and produce any notable flames). Probably it won’t do much more to a person than startle the hell out of them and maybe ignite their hair.

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                3300°C seems a bit much for butane but it could be farenheit which I would assume is still quite hot.

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                  I think even oxy-butane tops out at 2,000°C (which is 50,000°F or something idk). 3,300°C is around the max for oxy-acetylene, which is I’m assuming what the person writing this was looking at.

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            Great, create more fear in society and pit people against each other and give them weapons, too. Winning concept.

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                The problem is that who an “abuser” is is extremely subjective. In this case it’s evil men. What if people buy these because they’re scared of evil immigrants? The argument is the exact same.

                And nothing is stopping abusers from getting these too. You think they have a little checkbox on the order you have to cross on the form so they don’t accidentally sell them to the wrong person?

                And who are they against exactly, gropers, rapists, people that hit on you in a club, any stranger that approaches you? Burning someone alive is a pretty big commitment, you better make sure you got the right person, or else you’re just another psychopath with a weapon waiting for a chance to use it on anyone you dislike.

            • NotASharkInAManSuit
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              Pit people against whom? Their active attacker? Who are you worried about making afraid?

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                2 months ago

                What attacker? There is no attacker, it’s all a hypothetical situation meant to rile up people like you.

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                By that logic, shouldn’t everyone carry a gun too? If it’s theoretically only going to be used against an active attacker, what’s the big deal?

                (Note: this isn’t an argument for carrying guns)

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                  A lot of people carry guns specifically for that reason. I’m not saying it’s a perfect solution, but it speaks of a bigger issue that is being ignored. If people are forced to look out for themselves then the options become very limited and outside of the possibility of anything approaching ideal. I’m not choosing to worry about the attackers getting set on fire in this situation, my concerns and those of the people who have a need for things like this have already been outright ignored entirely. People don’t have a better option, it was taken from them already.

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                It’s just a weapon. It can be used by anybody, against anybody, for any reason. Being willing to use a weapon against other people doesn’t mean you are justified in doing so. This particular weapon is probably most useful for disfiguring people. There’s a fair chance that some over-entitled ex-boyfriends and stalkers might find a use for it.

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                  Do you want to get embarrassed over getting defensive about a dark joke shitpost in a meme sub about women defending themselves against the onslaught of rape the world throws at them and how the systems in power refuse to give a shit about to the point of them requiring lethal disfiguring weapons (as a joke, as this is just a stupid temu lighter intended to be used simply as a lighter for people stupid enough to buy one, if that wasn’t fucking obvious.) to stop it from happening to them or do you maybe just want to fuck off about it? I’ve still got more in the tank, but I’d rather do other things than point out how fucking stupid it is to take shit like this seriously to the point of arguing against it as a safety issue. I just got off of a rare slow shift at work and need to play with my cat.

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          I hope the QA is good. Training or no training, these aliexpress specials will probably just self immolate in your bag.

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          Also, fire doesn’t just stay put. Yes, you might burn the attacker, but catch the building on fire killing people.

      • daannii
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        2 months ago

        Here here !

        We can’t know until we give it a try

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        Handing out weapons to the population and expect them to use them responsibly has worked so fucking well so far…

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      There is one benefit to this. If you’re talking to a women at a bar and the people around you starting to move away, you know you’re crossing some lines.

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        2 months ago

        I wholely believe that they think that. I believe they should be shot instead of the ones shooting

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    2 months ago

    I am a man. I am buying six of these, a pair of rollerskates, a hockey stick, a mini fire extinguisher, and some string.

    See you guys on TV later!

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    Hey, idiot asses, it’s a meme. That’s just a dumb lighter for idiots you can get on temu. Are you really stupid enough to believe they are handing out flamethrowers because of a post on a meme instance?

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      dumb lighter for idiots

      Meaning a tool idiots can use to set the dumbs on fire?

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      2 months ago

      I’ve never been more sure of anything, ever.

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      It says China is Selling

      All you have to do is find it on temu or aliexpress to make that true.

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        So, yes, you really are that fucking stupid. congrats for choosing to die on stupid mother fucker hill.

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            Yes, I am. Are you just a bundle of internalized misogynistic propaganda to the point that you can’t even take a fucking joke about it without being a reactionary?

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    If I don’t hear about women being arrested because some creep got immolated for catcalling them, I am going to be disappointed.

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      Over catcalling? That seems somewhat insane though no?

      Unwanted touching or stalking or threatening and such i could see of course, but reciprocating men trying to get a womans attention (in a crappy and rude fashion) with literally death and/or permanent disfigurement and pain is a little drastic.

      We rightly abhor the insane acid attacks committed on women over some minor transgression out of some fucked sense of honor, sometimes happening in certain countries; how is this a viable position to hold just because the genders are reversed?

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        The European age of mass human sacrifice in the form of witch burning (1450 to 1750) is certainly something we don’t want to bring back.

        If someone’s physical safety is under threat then this seems like a reasonable tool for self protection.

        Let’s hope someone doesn’t abuse it.

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      Well, that’s the issue I find with this device, the same as guns or general physical force used against harasment and violence against women: it just leads to the woman getting arrested because the issue in the first place is that law enforcement and courts DO NOT take harasment and violence against women seriously

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        Bingo. This isn’t a solution to the problem, it’s a response. The actual problem isn’t being addressed in the slightest. People defending themselves will continue to get blamed for standing their ground. The only solace to be had from that is that women being arrested for “assault” will serve as external confirmation that these things are being used and that they work.

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      I too hope that anyone using this shit gets prosecuted and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

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    That bear isn’t gonna know what it hit.

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    Cool idea but that thing needs a bigger fuel tank, looks like it’ll be empty after 30 seconds of use

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      I don’t know, but if you don’t get the message after 30 seconds of hellfire…

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      Pepper spray cans also go empty in like 5 seconds. I don’t think these things are designed for longer bursts. Dump 'em and run.

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    Selling something to anyone that can shoot flames up to 20 feet seems like a bad idea. Predators should probably be set on fire, but this sounds like it would take the entire block down with it.