Wow, you fantasized about killing someone? That basically makes you a war hero. You truly earned this: 🎖️

o7

You got an icepick for the lobotomy? I’m in.

Man, I wish I could be as cool as you. You make it look so effortless. “Do you need a tissue?”

Dude, how do you think of these comebacks?

You’re supporting the exact people who would have killed Jesus. You have an upside down morality, and are precisely like the pharisees that Jesus railed against. You’re standing for state cruelty instead of charity like you don’t believe a thing Jesus preached.

He didn’t say "love your neighbor… So long as they’re not a foreigner (many of the people swept up and deported in the ICE raids are here legally).

You’re not standing up for the downtrodden; you’re a servant of the wealthy.

If you’re a Christian Nationalist, then get lost. I want nothing to do with you.

I know you didn’t come here for a debate, so I’ll keep my response as brief as possible.

You ask who we are to say that the “old rules no longer apply to our lives?” We’re the ones who have to live under the rules; why should we be beholden to the desires of a bunch of dead guys?

The women who fought for their right to vote, the strikers who brought us weekends and paid time off, the slaves who escaped their bondage, and the people who were driven out of their homelands by religious persecution all decided that the old rules were oppressive and in service of an elite who didn’t have their best interest at heart.

Take this passage from Mark 2 for example:

One Sabbath Jesus was going through the grainfields, and as his disciples walked along, they began to pick some heads of grain. The Pharisees said to him, “Look, why are they doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath?”

He answered, “Have you never read what David did when he and his companions were hungry and in need? In the days of Abiathar the high priest, he entered the house of God and ate the consecrated bread, which is lawful only for priests to eat. And he also gave some to his companions.”

Then he said to them, “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”

It illustrates the point that the rules are here for us, and that we should really think about the implications of what we are restricting.

The Republican brand of Christianity seems to be the opposite of everything that Jesus preached. From Matthew 25:

“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’

“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’

The GOP has been cutting food aid (EBT) to desperate families, medical services to the poor and elderly (Medicare & Medicaid), splitting up families of people who came here to seek asylum (ICE), starting unjustified wars (Iraq & Iran), demanding schools give Christians special treatment (display religious texts, fund private Christian schools with public school money), and funnelling money to the very richest people in society for fifty years (the US has the highest wealth inequality of any country in the developed world)… all wearing the Christian religion as their mantle. That’s why people hear “Christian Conservative” and think about all of this reactionary nonsense. The Christian Nationalist movement is about power, not tradition. Rather than having a pluralistic society, the Christian Nationalist thinks that they should get the sole right to decide how things are done.

Take the bathrooms that you mentioned: why is this a thing that people want the government involved in? Why should the government be able to tell you who can use the bathroom in your business? Shouldn’t that be up to the business owner? Isn’t that the “conservative” solution?

The rules are here to serve us; therefore, there’s no better set of people to determine what those rules should be. Conservatism is about maintenance of the status quo, and most people in the country are unhappy with the status quo. Isn’t that a good enough reason to change it, and to move away from an elite who doesn’t have our best interests at heart?

I’d say it’s far more about the conservative descriptor than the Christian one.

Personally, I’d much rather have a Christian friend who aligned with my values of celebrating diversity, defending personal liberty, and making the economy work for everyone instead of a select few over an atheist who constantly cries about “wokeness” and “cancel culture.”

People who identify as conservative Christians are frequently white nationalists who are more concerned with which genitals are in what bathroom or kicking brown people out of the country than preventing people from freezing to death on the street. If that’s not you, wonderful; but at least in the US you are indeed a rare breed.

I’m curious: what value does conservatism as a concept hold for you?

Anyway, know there is a lot of hate for conservative/ Christian views around here, so any TIPS on where to find a ‘safe space’ to be me & express my self, and how to limit/block toxicity would be appreciated.

People don’t care about religion here like they do (did?) on Reddit. Some dweebs might get worked up, but it’s far more chill here.

People here are often wary of conservatism though because it’s an inherently reactionary ideology that seeks power by attacking targeted populations; that’s what upsets people, and the fediverse is full of those who have been targeted by such campaigns.

Almost nobody will care that you’re Christian, but nearly everyone will be upset if you antagonize trans people. If your faith is about personal improvement, that’s chill. If it’s about controlling people whose lifestyle you hate, then this isn’t the place.

So even in your convoluted, roundabout way you still can’t get around implicating capitalism.

Here’s a hint: it doesn’t matter what excuses people give.

Capitalism.

Our economic system is not Christianity.

You really don’t know why we have lobbyists pouring money into Congress to prevent us from having universal healthcare? You think it’s all religious, and in no way related to the parasite class rent seeking in the most depraved way possible?

Yeah. I bet it’s because Jeebus.

Thanks for sharing your perspective, you’ve clearly spent a “lot” of “time” “thinking” about “this.”

I wonder what system people are increasingly upset about that doesn’t care about people’s health, but instead enriching the wealthiest people in the country?

It’s so cute when people who have never authentically considered another perspective weigh in on what leftists think and why.

Can you do people who can’t afford cancer treatment next?

Now why would an incel be worried about paternity testing? 🤣

Slut? How old fashioned.

Some of my favorite people are sluts.

Which is why I’m criticizing it as being half of a joke.

I got what they’re going for, it’s just that they stopped before they made it funny.

Seems more like a premise than a joke.

Consent isn’t all that confusing, is it?

I doubt you meet the hardware requirements.