try this

i also narrowed down my guesstimation to only include those interested in taking psychadelics

oh for sure they can distinguish different intensities

in art we have 3 nifty ways to describe a colour

• hue (difference between green and yellow)

• value (difference between black and white)

• saturation (difference between grey and neon red)

even a fully monocromatic person can distinguish the value of what they see, and with some colours they can also tell them apart just by that alone (yellow tends to be lighter in value, blue tends to be darker in value)

but here the question is (or at least how i understand it) does the hue of the colour affect us in a universal way? and therefore could someone unable to properly interpret the hue be a good control group?

it was temporary but unforgettable

it’d be impossible to live like that, but for a while it felt like being born again

and it definitely left a lasting impact on me, everything was so easily beautiful. usually you have to look to notice the beauty, but then it was all apparent and awe-inspiring, i was thinking about the concepts of hospitality and langauge, as well as look at the setting sunlight dancing in the window

i could write a book attempting to describe that evening, and even then it wouldn’t be a perfect description, it’s something you have to experience

that’s what i love psychadelics, they make you stop running away from yourself. when you set yourself up correctly you can do years of therapy in a single night. sometimes it’s a painful process (mentally speaking ofc) but it’s always worth it, always helping you grow

my theory is:

psychadelics open your mind to love

love makes you more aligned with leftist ideas

lemmy is a decentralised place that was popularised by people with leftist ideas leaving other platforms

an average lemmy user is more likely to have taken psychadelics than the average twitter user

if you show people colours you can be sure they already have associations with them - sun is yellow, sun is warm, yellow is warm - of course everyone will fire up the “this is warm” parts of their brain, but will it be the same thing i call yellow?

there are bound to be associations that transcend cultures and therefore fire up the same brain parts

monochromatic colour blind people will see the wavelength of yellow, but their eyes don’t have the receptors to distinguish it from light grey. objectively they still “see” the yellow, their eye-brain system just doesn’t interpret it in the way other people do

probably, this is what i know but it might not be true. if there is no way to get a control group of people who never learnt to associate colours with other things (pretty much everyone, aside from monochromatic colour blindess, and actual blindness since birth) then there is no way to test if we all indeed see the same yellow

i always saw the last sequence as an interpretation of what happened by our limited consciousnesses, and definitely inspired by psychadelics, no way in hell it wasn’t

why not both?

fun(?) fact! ego death feels like death :D

you know that thing people say about how everyone’s last thought is of their mother or their home?

when i first took LSD i experienced an ego death, and just before fully letting go i thought to myself “how will i tell my mum i died?”

it was, to put it blunt, quite fucking terrifying. thankfully i had enough logic in me to calm myself down and fully let go to experience it, after the you dies the world becomes so– fresh. i felt like an alien experiencing the Earth for the first time, there was no barrier between me and the world, because for a few hours there was no “me”

there is some evidence in our pre-history that we used to experience the world without the layer of abstraction

cave paintings at one point became… different. at first they represented reality - various animals - in absolutely amazing detail, down to depicting which muscles tensed as an animal ran, then they stopped. just around the same time as we began depicting ourselves in more detail. when we noticed ourselves it seems like first layers of abstract interpretation of reality began forming

here’s a cool video on the subject (the title is rather click-baity but it is a good video, trust)

that’s not really a good study for the issue in question since getting a control group of people who never formed associations between colours and ideas would be rather difficult

even a day old baby would begin forming their first associations - yellow is warm because the sun is warm

has the study included totally colour blind people? (like literally blind to colour, full monochromacy) and if so how were their results interpreted?

colour theory works the same to everyone because it works entirely with how colours relate to each other

if you saw colours rotated on a colour wheel 180° - so that your green is my purple - we wouldn’t know

the only difference would be in the hue (difference between green and purple), which isn’t all that important. there are plenty of videos on youtube with artists drawing using random hues but with correct values (difference between black and white) and once they switch their work to colour it all just looks, good, a bit abstract for sure but still good

besides, colour theory picks colours that go together well based on their relative position on the colour wheel. teal works well with orange because they’re complimentary, opposites on the spectrum. neutral colours are neutral because they’re desaturated regardless of hue, neon colours are very saturated regardless of hue

maybe in objective reality we all like the same exact hue of colour, but in our brains we all call it a different word, we’ll never know

not really 99%, more 99.9%

the only time when you as a person should never take psychadelics is when you have a pychoaffective disorder (or a history of it in your family) as it can trigger psychosis

other dangers come from heavy abuse of the substances, nothing you can do accidentally (psychadelics are non-addictive chemically speaking, but we humans can abuse anything so there’s been cases of it) or taking the substances when you’re depressed or anxious (can turn into a bad trip, cure you of those in a day, or just be a normal trip, it’s a gamble)

99.9% of the time people who take psychadelics come back to normal after the effects wear off. even bad trips can be beneficial. the normal becomes broader, and many lessons are learnt, the useful hallucinations gain more meaning. i often compare psychadelic trips to having a mirror put in front of yourself and being forced to look at it for hours, now - do you like what you see?

they look like it’s their first time running every time

oh it wasn’t ignored, it gave you a generic error message when you clicked it :D

yeah that’s what i mean, how do you break something so obvious and then just make that version live globally. it took them a day to fix it, even if an intern did it it should’ve been fixed in minutes

i get 95% of their software for €0 a month :)

throwback to that one update that somehow managed to break the “X” as in, the button that closes the software. how do you even break that???

bet that completely preventable ambulance ride then cost her hundreds of dollars

so America actually does what my anxiety disorder used to tell me would happen?

guys you live in hell