and that’s why sex workers made their unions too

All work is done through coercition Some coercition are worst than other, but the all the worst one are not only in sex works. Fighting for emancipation is done by the workers themselves, not aqainst them

not in a Marxist sens. Classical marxists analyze work in order to make the workers the liberation class. Those definition to got some value that workers could take from capitalists.

In that sens, cops are needed for the expropriation of value from workers, not the production of value. So workers could keep this value for themselves if they have no cops.

This definition is operational in a lot of work situation, however it do have some flaws. As pointed out, it’s mean that workers in the public sector to do not suffer from exploitation, that reproductive work is not work, or informal work (like drug dealing or sex work) is not work too. This last example show what those flaws let class disdain could hijack it.

I see 3 possibilities :

• this definition is true, but incomplete
• this definition is tree, but their is other form of work we have to take in consideration (maybe boss exploitation is not the same than domestic exploitation)
• this definition is wrong

• cops do not prevent crime : they’d rather let the crime happen to make an arrestation in order to have good stats. Futhermore arresting someone actually de-socialized them, leading to precarity, leading to criminality.
• cops do no protect You may trie to fill a case against your boss of against sexual violence. A lot of time, it will not help. When it does, it to try to know what are the victims need, and isolate them from their social network
• the function of police is not to fight crime Foucault 101 there. In short : criminality exists because of its interdiction. Immoral or dangerous things could legal, moral or healthy things could be illegal. Criminality exists because Police exists, and they both have a social function : keep the social order in place. That’s why law focus on things poor people do and not what powerful people are doing

If you point is : “some things done by individual could not be tolerated”, we agree. However punishment do not stop this thing to happen, and those things could be done by cops, magistrate or powerful people too. restorative justice an stuff

Seems that he became reasonable

"Without the fear of poverty, no one would be submissive "

Because a conclusion is incorrect do not imply that everything that lead to this conclusion is incorrect.

First, your obviously struggle to convince people. So even if this is the only objective, we have to inform ourselves better to understand what we are missing. This is a better stand, but I think this is still an issue : we don’t really listen people if we think they are wrong.

If our stand is right, this is not an issue to try to prove it wrong. So let’s discuss in order to be proven that vaccines shall not be trusted. I mean, with reliable sources and shit. However personal experiences are reliable sources, but not as much as collective one which and not as scientific consensus.

And their is some serious concerns about vaccines : in Africa, some vaccines campaign was used to use people as test-subject, Falashas has been collectively sterilized. Those are not exception, coloniale and oppressive context regularly use health to justify oppression (on race, gender, sexual orientation or origin).

So if we took what seems obvious to us in order to help, we may just reproduce what other people from the social origins use to oppress. In this conditions, the intuition to oppose to our speech is a good one. To do that, we have to value the knowledge of the exact same people that we may look down upon otherwise

because its hard to emancipated from authorities like parents and teacher. Finding other sources of information that seems to be reliable is hard. At this age I was relying on TV to do so. I don’t think I’m an exception

In this case, minorities could learn by themselves, to under another leadership.

Do you know some leading organization that are let concerned people speak, organized and plan their actions, without someone that want to “help them to understand their own conditions” ? I know some organizations dike that, and their are out of the limelight by others. And those others are liberal that think their have the right knowledge and their are need … or vanguard leftists that think they have the right political thinking to analyse the situation.

In both case, they are acting like missionaries (and are their are some historical and sociological link).

You take one example (that is true), but this is not enough. White people could act under the control of the collective; with an imperative mandate of what that person shall talk to, or what line shall that person defend, without asking his mind

Yeah, but remember this person could be 13

I’ve never understand this critic of industrialism adressed to anarcho-communists. Every people I know taking care of ecological struggle are anarcho-communists. I’m in a thousands people anarcho-communists organization, and I’ve never find anyone pro-industrialization there; it’s may be a true where you are, and I’m curious to know from where you’re speaking (or if you have an organization in mind). However here, “anti-civ” people are crypto-leninist that talk about self-organization to bait people to do their dirty work (if not put them in danger). This is mainly people that read books from the US and are convince their have understood the history of ecological struggle. And their are transphobic, and not antifascist.

But maybe I’m the one confused, because I’m kind of nihilist, and I don’t see any opposition with anarcho-communism

Always have been Like, really. Anti-war mouvement are massives during conscription. People are protecting their own interests, and is a good think to build grass root mobilization (or organization)

All citizens from the middle of capitalism shall kill the nationalism inside their cultures. Not just jews

I never why we suppose to feel bad about our state in order to oppose to it. Shame do not lead to long term action; feeling bat about a state we do not run imply identify to it. This is an issue, we have to distinguish ourselves (as a collective) from the state.

Another bloody imperialist state

Yep. And that mean that everyone shall have the time and confort to rise a child. And then choose to do it or not. Fuck the bosses

yep, however this is antisemitic trop, not an antisionist one. The mem shall symbolize judaism accordingly with a hanoukkia, or a least with a golden maghen Dawid; the blue one in a nationalist symbol.

No you’re not paranoid. However, the point of surveillance is not to repress, but to make us afraid to act (panopticon and stuff). Not everything could be done through organization; but not system shift could be done without. A strong solidarity network is something that could people to act by other mean, help them to get inform on industries by people being exploited by those industries. And of course building international solidarity.

Depending of your country or your affinities, you could even join an union under a pseudonyme

we’ve got plenty of rich to eat