

stop normalizing molestaches!


stop normalizing molestaches!


yeah, no doubt, it’s not being subsidized.
low income privacy supporters don’t want it subsidized either.
at the same time, they are in fact excluded from this model of phone.
in the universe of possibilities, it’s possible to have an affordable phone with privacy intact that serves more communities, at some time in the past or future.
but not from murena, not right now.
tl;dr no duh.


it’s not.
I’m not blaming Fairphone nor Murena. the economy everywhere is not helping make things cheaper.
it doesn’t change the truth that right now, privacy is for the rich.


1200€???
ok… i guess privacy is only for the rich
edit: privacy via this phone model is only for the rich. you nitpickers happy now?


the OP explicitly said no need for git


does it work across LAN or p2p Bluetooth without WAN like Briar, Cwtch, etc?


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they’re not gonna listen to it…
does proton want to be constantly harassed (aka investigated informally without charges nor warrants) by fbi, police, mi5, mi6, Interpol, Europol, etc etc via kyc laws and money laundering laws because a few hundreds/thousands petitioners said “do this”? they would receive even more requests for user data (which often don’t require warrants in many countries btw) than they already receive.
or would they rather continue to enable millions of users to escape censorship while still making lots of money and only sometimes harassed by LE?
in other words do you think proton is a conscience with software attached? or are they a money-making company that has slightly better values than certain other companies?
(rhetorical questions. i know the answers already)
no personal offense intended.


if you’re not actually promoting gmail, you ought to make that explicitly clear.
by pointing out something bad about proton and praising gmail’s version of that, it looks like you’re doing nothing other than recommending gmail in a privacy community.
everyone already knows gmail has high usability and convenience and zero (financial) cost. using it as an example in this community is redundant and ineffective. better to use another e2ee email service as an example.


my favorite feature of freetube is the channel blocking and keyword blocking. my block list is probably thousands of items by now. consequently, my second favorite feature is the ability to hide the block lists 😂
(my fav feature is different than most important feature, which is of course privacy from YT/Big G. so please don’t complain that i don’t care about privacy)


in all seriousness, palantir and clearview are way more dangerous than most of the other shit going on out there. only Putin has greater max evil potential (when considering not only politics and military but also Russian Mafia and western politician campaign secret donations).
theyre basically Albion from watch dogs legion.


I’ve heard of “pirate radio” since decades ago but never understood what is pirated about it.
are they broadcasting pirated music? broadcasting from ships committing maritime piracy? drinking Captain Morgan?
dirt on water? mud?


don’t be like one of the now!now!now! types (i.e. OP) and treat every new discovery (personal first encounters with existing tech, situations) as the final nail in the coffin. there are other messengers available while waiting for signal to change.
just saying, acknowledge that many others have arrived at the same problem years before you and they are not your enemy. so yelling at the choir is counter productive.


thousands of threads on this topic since decades ago.
it’s an eternal debate (since signal has no plans to change)
just read the history and join the rest of us waiting for them to change. using signal before that change is completely optional. go ahead and don’t use it. no problem.
opening the discussion again is just tiring.
kana flick was non-negotiable for me so, while im not proud of it, for now I’m using ms swiftkey in incognito, no Google play, network permission revoked (capability of Graphene OS).
another reason i chose it is handwriting input for Chinese.
anyway this is just until fcitx implements kana flick, per below issues.
other kana flick options:
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