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Eh, I won’t even install egs for free games
Yeah i don’t get that hoarder mentality either. If there is a game i want i can buy it wherever i feel ethically appropriate. I don’t even play all of the games i already own, i dont need a load of more games i wont be touching.
Two of the best games I’ve ever played, I got for free on Epic: Titanfall 2 and Control
Oh, man, those are both FANTASTIC, I’m really glad you got to play them. Control introduced me to the entire “weird fiction” genre and now I’m hooked. And Titanfall 2 is just a masterpiece of storytelling and game design. Just as you think you’re getting bored with a mechanic they throw in something new.
It’s really sad that Titanfall didn’t get a sequel. I mean, sure, they can make one in the future, but of course by then the magic in the studio will be gone, or is already gone now.
The only reason I collect theses games I’ll never play is because epic pays the devs for every free game is redeemed.
if you don’t collect the free games then it’s like youre losing the money you would have spent! (/s)
Not a lot of people can “buy it” because most people are in regions without an international payment platform support.
What you’re feeling smug against is literally a record on the db.
Of all the things to be “ethically appropriate” about you chose people getting free games?
I don’t feel smug about it, what the fuck. Use epic if you want, i’m just saying i already cant keep up with the games i actually want to play. No need for me to grab any free ones on a platform i dislike. “Ethically appropriate” means literally just that, get your games where you feel comfortable.
I just pick them up through the web, no need to install anything.
To install and play, heroic.
What is this Heroic?
A games launcher that allows you to log into an Epic account. Supports GOG too.
It mainly exists to make playing on Linux easier but I think it’s available for Windows.
That is what Heroic is for.
I’ve used them for a bit, but literally never installed their launcher. Heroic saved me from those claims going to waste.
It’s interesting that when a company fires a bunch of employees just to increase quarterly profit, the employees no longer feel any duty to keep the company secrets. Which hurts company profits even more.
Good.
Is this a secret though?
No, it’s one of those things everyone assumes or guesses. When it’s confirmed by someone by name that has insider knowledge, the theory carries a lot more weight. Enough to alter stock prices, if it’s damning enough. Or in this case further hurt public perception, which hurts revenue.
Thanks for reminding me to login and collect my free game.
I think valve does same too but different approach, they just don’t hire anyone for keeping paychecks for themselves
I have so many free games from epic, but absolutely nothing is interesting to me.
I got Prey from them years ago. One of the best free games ever.
Subnautica as well. Such a great game
I mean what did they expect? With all those free games on a set frequency they basically trained their users that this is what Epic is for. That was their entire marketing. I don’t know a single person IRL who has an Epic account and has actually bought a game there.
I think I bought Hades there when the discount was more than on steam. One game in years of collecting free ones.
Maybe they were thinking that people would see cool stuff every time they clicked over to get the free games, but they’re lacking most of the stuff steam has so no one wants to spend any time in the epic environment
Oh hey it’s me
I collected the free games almost religiously for maybe a couple of years, mostly so I had something of a backup library in case something terrible happened to Steam
I stopped after realising I was literally only interacting with that store literally to collect the games, I don’t think I put a single minute into any of them
This is me.
Every year there’s one free game that interests me. Otherwise eventually I’m going to give my Epic account to one of my nephews/nieces.
My friends and I have gotten a shitload of time in our free copies of Gloomhaven.
Other than that not so much. And the Linux support is WAY fiddlier.
I did get to play death stranding and both turnip boy games, which were both good. Also I played ghost wire Tokyo and Calypso protocol and found out they weren’t for me. Whoever did the environmental design for Calypso protocol deserves an award though- it’s all gorgeous. The actual game and story are dull as fuck.
Callisto Protocol?
Caliban Protocol?
Pelican Control?
LMAO yes
I wouldn’t mind more competition but there’s literally no reason to use egs over valve.
An example is instead of having a better review system than steam’s basic good or bad they could of had a good, maybe, bad then had separate reviews for reviewing specific patches or something. But no the CEO said reviews are bad for devs LOL.
On top of that he’s been vocal about being anti Linux and is full of garbage hot takes. And it really says a lot when he lays off staff that are part for Fortnite’s $1.1 billion made
Yeah, competition is great but they aren’t competing lol. Gog competes with Steam with no DRM. EGS tried to do it by getting exclusives onto their platform, which is just anti-consumer. I’ll never touch their store because of that, even for free shit. I’d rather pay for games than even give them a single datapoint to report to their investors.
EGS isn’t competing with Steam because Timmy is on record saying his customers are devs and publishers. The rest of us are just pay piggies who should be happy to give money to him.
I wish GOG Galaxy and Playnite were good launchers. I don’t like Epic and I don’t like the stranglehold Steam has on the market. Basically I want a launcher where I can see all of my games, but I also want to be able to open as many stores as I want, and then be able to compare prices and then buy from each of those stores within the same launcher.
So basically isthereanydeal.com that’s also a launcher? I suppose I wouldn’t be mad at it
Apparently Playnite has a ITAD plugin you can use, but it’s limited to your wishlist, and doesn’t have an all-in-one browser, and it doesn’t look like it’s very well maintained.
What’s wrong with steam? Tons of reasonably priced games with good accessibility and versatility.
Monopolies tend to be bad. The more my game library is on steam, the more fucked I am if my country decides to ban Steam for some reason or another, or the US decides to fuck everyone else over.
They can be bad and that absolutely could happen, but I think steam is a rare example of a customer benefiting monopoly right now. Monopolies make the market less efficient and right now the most efficient market for computer games is enshitification galore, but valve is sitting in the way of that, manipulating the market and making games be less economically productive (by forcing them to be more pleasant for customers).
If we had 20 equally viable launchers/stores, it’d be a race to the bottom on price, which would force them all to enshittify or die
Yeah. Worries me too. Maybe a more stable option would be to grow gog galaxy and other “opinionated” launchers so there’s competition but nobody is trying to burn the market down to earn a few more pennies…
Build one!
EGS is unironically one case where changing to Electron would be actual progress. The launcher does NOT need to be a fucking UE5 app
https://heroicgameslauncher.com/
:)
I dont even want the free games, they can keep their grifty service.
I get free Epic games from Prime Gaming, but I refuse to redeem them on principle. You couldn’t pay me to use Epic, or even give them an inkling that I support them.
I considered it briefly when they launched, and then they pulled the bullshit of game exclusivity on PC, which is why I left consoles behind. Because of that, I’ll never purchase from them.
1st paragraph - a mirror. As if I’m writing this.
2nd paragraph - even tho I hate exclusivity that they have established, it is not primary reason why I would never use EGS. For me, primary one would be them having a downright crap launcher. The rest is just more reasons to skip using EGS.
Well no shit, 3 years of Epic have over 300 games haven’t spent a dime on their platform. Games I really want and willing to spend money goes to Steam.
I dont have quite as many, but I only spent about 5 dollars on a dlc for cities skyline. That is the extent I have spent on egs. Steam on the other hand…
“Marginally profitable.” Profit is profit, and their end goal of giving people a library to drive sales has worked.
Competition is good, for end consumers, but not a chance I’m going to be using EGS. They had no interest in making things better for consumers, especially with trying to create exclusivity in PC gaming.
Bad logic on “profit is profit”.
Opportunity cost is huge here.
Its existence and with Gog they offer an alternative to steam if steam bans a game and to prevent its theoretical rise to evil after gaben dies.
At this point apparently they have to be glad if people claim the free games and not just buy them outright on Steam instead.
https://lemmy.zip/post/59643170
I actually did this. They gave out a game for free which I tried out and actually loved. The game has a pretty big mod scene so I just bought it on Steam because of the steam workshop. Installing and updating mods on the EGS version was such a pain in the ass. The steam version it’s literally a click and it updates automatically.
Ironically, this is also why I own Fallout4 and SkyrimSE on GOG, it’s just so much easier having a single version that won’t autoupdate to something broken if I accidentally launch it via Steam instead of SKSE/F4SE.
“All platforms” uh huh sure yep
Wow, what a surprise. Next up they will discover nobody even plays those free claimed games or even buy them on Steam if they’re good
I use it for Alan wake and I use gog for cyberpunk because I got a better price for it on gog.
Also I still have to run everything through steam because neither of those have controller support that actually works.
That’s one of the biggest issues I have. They don’t even have basic functions like controller support.
Ridiculous.
It’s not even that EGS is terrible, it’s that Steam is much better
Its also that EGS is terrible.
The most recent “feature” they added that made a difference, was the ability to view my own library.
8(?) Years after launch it still operates like a prototype I’d cobble together in an afternoon
Plus we all know that if EGS ever achieved market dominance, they’d enshittify in no time.
That was surely always the plan right. Lure users with good prices and free games, grow the platform, then extract profit.
But the plan didn’t work, and so after all this time they’re still stuck on “best behaviour” mode trying to lure users who aren’t coming.
100%
The plan was just to keep throwing money until they trampled the ecosystem and came out on top, well this didn’t work for shit.
Even the freebies that I want to play, I almost never play through Epic, and usually wait until I get another copy on Steam. The overall experience of playing a game through Epic is just… bleugh.
I think I’ve only completed one game on Epic, Layers of Fear 2. The other stuff I’ve played has essentially been like playing a demo, to see if it’s worth adding to my Steam wishlist. That’s how subtractive to the enjoyment of gaming Epic is.
I also just dislike their practice of exclusivity and feel uncomfortable supporting it with my wallet. At least with Ubisoft, EA and Rockstar, it’s only their own games they wall off like that, and they almost always have a Steam-connected version so there’s at least the illusion of having everything in one place. Epic is a black hole. I don’t even remember the games that have been or are still exclusive there, because I just never encounter any information about them apart from occasional news articles about how unprofitable they’ve been even after X-number of years. It’s kinda sad, for the devs who work hard on something for years and 8 people play the fucker.
I used it for Mechwarrior because it was exclusive. Never ended up playing it because my computer was a bit glitchy at the time. Now that I’ve upgraded the computer, I would rather play the games I have on steam rather than install epic for one game.
I keep forgetting to check their free games regularly, just did, cause of this post and was reminded, why it’s not a priority for me lol
Sometimes there is good stuff.
Now is not one of those times.
Reminder: Epic CEO Tim Sweeney has defended child pornography, saying that stopping it is “gatekeeping”.
ITT: pedo defenders
Man, you really need to have something to back it up when you say shit like this; it’s just good practice. This is the quote.
Few will click through, so I’ll copy the part where he actually talked about child pornography below. First of all, both times the term “gatekeeping” was used in that link were specifically connected to “censoring political opponents”. He was not talking about pornography. He was talking about censorship.
Bringing up pornography is always the bludgeon of anti-free-speech people. If I say, “People should have the freedom to express themselves,” some idiot will inevitably say, “This evil person said that everybody should be allowed to make child porn!” This sort of rhetoric is the death of thinking.
Someone should have told him that Elon “stopped” it by trying to make money from it.
I know you’re not saying it to disagree with me, but I would like to clarify that I didn’t think he was factually completely right. I honestly don’t even think his argument is necessarily sound. The thing I do like is that he was arguing from good fundamentals.
My reason for making the first comment is that I have a strong belief that we should argue against things that people actually say and do, like you’re doing bringing up Elon’s actions. Yours is a great example of an honest argument.
And I dislike all of these straw men that fly around all the time.
I’d love to know what the cost was of essentially leaving steam, making their own platform, hosting and maintains said platform, giving exclusivity bonuses to devs, and paying to give away games etc has been vs just stating on steam and paying the fees.
I feel like they all tried this then all game crawling back. Same with Netflix and everyone leaving to make their own failures.
You’ve missed out the “don’t charge devs the Unreal licensing fee for games sold through Epic Store”, which would be another 10% on top of every sale. If they had any sales, of course. But yeah, an extra ten percent of nothing remains nothing, and they all go back to Steam.
I gave up on even claiming free games because i got a job
Could you next time please just copy the text and pic, instead of creating a screenshot of a screenshot?
This is dumb.
I don’t buy many games off Steam either tbh. Most of my 1000+ games are from bundles.
My most recent purchase was the first Crystal Dynamics Tomb Raider trilogy because they were about 80 pence each.
The sales are not what they once were, but you still get the odd bargain.
i gave my epic games account with the free games i claimed to a friend because i wasnt playing any of them
I only used EGS once and it was for a early build play test of John Carpenter’s Toxic Commando.
Heh i got Satisfactory during the Epic Exclisivity Deal there and bought it again when it got to steam, maybe a bit stupid but man, i hate Epic Games
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Enjoy the slop I guess, lutris is garbage now.
Well Heroic uses Electron which is just another kind of slop.
Have you checked out heroic? I’ve never really used lutris myself. But the devs behavior definitely makes me never want to try again. Heroic works awesome tying into GoG, EGS, and Amazon. Granted I don’t game like I did 30 years ago. Nor do I even pirate games at this point. I could, I just don’t feel a need or desire to. So YMMV.
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Fair enough. And yeah I’m not horribly opposed to them using llm stuff. It’s more of a hindrance than it is a real help anyhow. Much more concerning is their assholish behavior about it. If you’re going to use it use it just own up to it and be clear. Spitefully trying to hide or obfuscate is the behavior of someone who would try to hide or obfuscate data loggers back doors or other malicious code knowingly or unknowingly. Not something you need a higher risk of when you’re trying to pirate binaries.
What? I tried making cyberpunk 2077 (the high sea ‘edition’) works on lutris for hours before giving up. Next day I test heroic and it worked first time
Uh?? Heroic isn’t?
Their customer service is garbage.
I have several hundred free games from epic. Never spent a penny there. The problem with all those free games is that the good or interesting free games are less common. So I have a lot of games that I’ll likely never play.
I must be that crazy guy who plays all of his games, albeit slowly. Not counting VR, I’ve spent way more time on all my free games on Epic than my Steam library.
Sad.
how the fuck do you launch a store without a “shopping cart” feature did 20 business fucks pay themselves to suck each other off whilst one intern wrote the store?