Avicenna, avicenna@programming.dev

If we are going to get stuck in semantics, then he also did not just propose it. Propose would be opening an issue, describing how he would plan to do it and letting people discuss. This is how proposals work. Pushing a very controversial change and getting someone to accept it is not “proposing” when the change is something the community will obviously be so divided over.

And it does not have to implement a full on surveillance mechanism to take a step towards better compliance with possible future surveillance laws. The guy literally said in his comments that this was the intent:

https://github.com/archlinux/archinstall/pull/4290

What the hell are we even discussing here?

Why not wait until it becomes absolutely necessary and all other alternatives are exhausted? The mandatory age check thing hasn’t been even accepted whole US wide let alone world-wide. He did not even wait for ut to play out. What is with the enthusiasm to jump on board with this?

At the moment of most intense debates about mandatory age checks and government surveillance you (Dylan) hoped people to be calm about this? Then you my friend are simply delusional. They are angry and for a good reason. Why the rush to comply with a surveillance practice that hasn’t forced on you with some sanction or enforcement. You did not even wait for it to play out. You did not have a discourse about alternatives. You just went ahead and hastily applied a change as if as if doing some sort of coup.

The law yes, it is also I think is a response to rising anger against billionaires. They want to make sure that they have the necessary systems in place when anger actually turns into action.

But I was talking about this person in particular. It feels like no one without a ulterior motive would try to get such a thing passed preemptively and so much like a coup. Even if this law passed in all states you could probably drag any requests to add such a verification for years and years without any actual sanctions. So why the rush to comply without exploring any other options?

wow that looks even more like Andrew Tate than real Andrew Tate

Eh I was wondering whose turn was it to claim it this year. Turns out it is another guy who is balls deep invested in AI.

I sort of get the feeling of something more than just complying with the possible future age verification law. I feel like it has intent do damage and distrupt the community.

The timing makes me even more suspicious. Of all the times one could added this field, this is probably singularly the worst one. Right after discussions of mandatory age check? Seriously?

Is this the fine US is paying to UAE for fucking up in the middle east

https://www.palestinechronicle.com/cigarette-burns-nail-wounds-toddler-tortured-in-gaza-to-coerce-father/

Might be somewhat better, would be hard to get an early coverage of such a thing in the mainstream media. All of this is also based on interviews with the eye-witnesses although there are claims of confirmation by medical reports. There are also videos of the child with clear puncture etc wounds, which looks like human inflicted.

never ages, perhaps can be extended as “restriction of personal freedoms”

That was a comment in the case this feature evolves into many apps requiring the age verification via this info. In that case I would like to part ways with any OS using systemd as a means of protest.

One has to wonder how much money they made just of the crypto grift. Everything Trump has done from day one has been to funnel money from regular people’s pockets into billionaires’ pockets, including him self and every tech oligarch that bent the knee.

soulless fucks

Unfortunately the strongest lobbies seem to decide what is doable, not humanity at large

honestly speaking did not put much effort into this research. I was intrigued and checked a couple of websites which all seemed to claim they are long dead and gone and posted one of them here.

Small countries be like that. I remember San Marino having a couple of surprising statistics too.

This is singularly the worst time such a change could be implemented, so much so that I am almost looking for malintent.

It is a psychological reaction. The amount of digital surveillance has massively increased in the last couple years. US has just started, as you probably know too, discussing the possibility of adding mandatory age checks to any device connecting to the internet (that might fail due to its infeasibility, but that is another issue). So is this reaction really that surprising? People are afraid that this might be the first of a series of changes that make it more surveillance friendly, such as actual age verification. Indeed incremental changes would probably be the only feasible way one can turn something like systemd surveillance friendly. Even leaving everything aside, this is singularly the worst possible time to suggest such a change to the level that I would almost look for malintent.

I suppose people are afraid that this is just the step one of a series of incremental changes that will make systemd more surveillance friendly. Regarding changing distros, starting a fork and doing couple fixes is not the same thing as maintaining it and being vetted by the community. So I would too change distro to a non systemd one, although options might be quite limited.