I love to see it because all the idiots in their gas guzzling, coal rolling trucks get hit way harder than I do.
Yeah, same here honestly
Lol
Let me know when gas gets to $6.70
I don’t have any context for whether this is expensive or not, but…
You’re charged LESS for fuel if you let them wash your car? …what?
The car wash is an additional cost not listed.
because the other two comments didn’t make it entirely clear if you have no idea what this is about: the pump will ask you if you want to buy a car wash ticket as well. if you say yes, you get the lower fuel price
The gas station has far higher marginal profit on a car wash than on gas. Also, most of the time you don’t even break even on the supposed savings.
It’s a trick to get people to spend more money in a way that is more advantageous for the gas station owner.
wow, that’s actually more than here in Ontario after converting currency and volume units. $2.30 vs $1.60 when I filled up on the weekend
still quite cheap in the grand scheme of things for what it is
Oh, I wish we could have that cheap gas here, you lucky bastards.
8.199$/gallon, that’s 1.846 €/Liter Diesel. Meanwhile in Germany I had to fill up at 2.389 €/Liter, at times it’s over 2.50
I have seen it up to 2,7€/L here in France. The average price is 2,3€/L yet.
brazil here, diesel is 6.49 BRL per liter here, that’s less than an euro, turns out all that sugar cane ethanol did help with something0
From what I’ve read, sugarcane is significantly better for making fuel than the corn we use. But the climate in the U.S. obviously not correct for it to be produced at the scale needed, except for possibly small areas in the most southern states.
the minimum and maximum ethanol on gasoline is also way higher here, which means more oil saved that can go to produce diesel, brazil is extremely depend on trucks for internal transportation of all goods, including goods that are exported, thus diesel cost has quite a high impact on the cost of everything here, even the relatively small increase here is quite impactful
one big side effect of the high ethanol is that a lot of old cars really don’t run well on it and can cause significant damage to their engines, and having way less energy per volume means more often refueling which can be quite annoying
yay for having some energy independence
Diesel is equivalent to 2 €/Liter in Australia right now. Given that the country runs on diesel, its a nightmare. Even the few people who don’t own cars are hurting, because the ships that bring in food run on diesel, the trucks and trains that bring the food from the ports to the rest of the country run on diesel. The grain producers and cattle farms, some of which are the size of small countries, all run on diesel. The cost of diesel is hitting everyone.
619 dollars for one oil? I’m guessing it’s 6.19/l (or maybe even gallon? Who knows with these) but wow these are awkward to read.
Gas prices in the US are in $/gal, so $6.19 per gallon. Some signs just don’t include the decimal.
I understand your confusion… I went to Canada for the first time recently and their prices are cents per liter, but (much like American prices) that’s not actually indicated anywhere.
But you can drive many football stadions with that much oil
they didn’t bother with the decimal point just in case.
I buy my gas at Donny’s Discount gas. 619 8/10ths
The period used to be permanent but then they had double digit gas so they had to remove it.
Finally, Americans see what Europeans live with.
Enjoy your Kia Piccantos 🤣
We can’t even do that…
This is kind of the problem. Most small cars aren’t even sold here. For another example, Ford sells the Mustang. Everything else is trucks, SUV’s, and commercial vans.
Don’t they do a 1.6l Mustang these days?
Maybe in other countries but in the US the smallest displacement Mustang is a turbo 2.3L four cylinder.
But soon you can buy a Xeinpeng Mighty Seagull with Android Prune Candy dispenser!
Enjoy your Kia Piccantos
Americans will eat from dumpsters before they give up their V8 pickups.
My v8 pickup shuts four of it’s cylinders off when it’s not under load, but I still drive my EV to work.
If my conversion is correct, that would be aprox 1.45euro/L for Reguolar. Super close to prior-to-iran-war prices but would love to see them pay 2.50.
For US netizens, again if I am converting the right way, 2.50eur/L of Regular would be around $11 per gallon.
Who is paying 2.50 a litre for fuel?
That’s insane.
The pump close by at the highway is at €2,579/liter here in The Netherlands.
Wow. That’s alot. But Netherlands is so expensive. I love the country but it’s unreal how much you guys pay for stuff.
Where I am at right now, 1L of Super E10/95 octane is 2.10euro while Diesel can go as high as 2.29. Outside of the city I have seen 2.29 for Super E10/95 octane.
Not 2.50 yet, and probably will go down since, allegedly, Iran/USA bombing is done for now. But I cant pass over the fact that it got from 1.60 to 2.20 in a span of one month. Fucking happy my car has 1.2L engine.
We are still at €1.50 here - feeling Lucky.
Sucks that the US is so car-centric. If there was actual public transit (especially of the electric variety), people would struggle a little less.
The same thing happened during the pandemic. Cities are built with large zoned swaths for residential, business and commercial all divided. When you can get around easy, that can work. But then suddenly with the WFH shift, entire sections were greatly impacted (such as restaurants in business districts).
On the other hand, Asian and European cities that have dense mixed use zoning fared much better because the restaurants could serve people regardless if they were wfh or at an office.
Where are my buddies: coal rollers? What happened to them?
Parked at home :)
Still dirt cheap when compared to prices here. I have no ideas what you 'mericans whine about.
Does your country have a working public transit system?
Depends. Public transport is a city thing. Out in the country, not that much. We are in between, having the local public transport hub, which means there are busses every hour during the day.
Nope :/
Well, it’s also 87 octane.
Where I live it’s $6.50 a gallon, but for 95 octane, which I don’t think you can even get in the US.
You’re probably thinking of 95 RON gasoline, but US pumps advertise gasoline in AKI. 95 RON is equivalent to 91 AKI, which is what they’re selling as “Supreme” in the OP photo.
Whatever it is, my gasoline options are 95 and 100. That’s it.
Still sounds like you’re saying my options are 91 and 93 AKI or whatever. So the US 87 Regular is lower quality.
So the US 87 Regular is lower quality.
Octane rating has nothing to do with quality, it’s just how fast the fuel burns.
If you are buying higher octane without specific instructions from your vehicle manufacturer, you’re getting scammed.
Octane rating has no bearing on the quality of the fuel lmao. It just runs better in engines that are designed to run it.
Octane rating does not relate directly to the power output or the energy content of the fuel per unit mass or volume, but simply indicates the resistance to auto-ignition under pressure without a spark.
Some engines will adjust spark advance by using the knock sensor, and when using a higher octane gas, will be more efficient. The gas is not more power dense, but it gets used more efficiently. If your car doesn’t, then it’s not better to use higher octane gas.
Yes, thanks. That’s exactly what I said, and I agree with you completely
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That sounds about right to me. Some places will sell 93 AKI/100 RON in the US, but it’s not as common, and the only cars that actually require it are probably modified turbocharged cars. Most US commuter cars run perfectly fine on 87 AKI and it’s significantly cheaper. I live in Washington so for some reason they sell 92 AKI gasoline, which is an oddball number I don’t see anywhere else.
I’ve found older, worn down cars and high compression engines get a lot of spark knock if you don’t use 93. And that’s after making sure everything’s clean inside.
For context: San Jose is also in one of the least affordable regions in the country. It’s the largest city in the Bay Area with the best weather.
I always pump for 20 Swiss francs so i dont care.
Until ur car runs out of gas one time when driving to work, cos 20 bucks doesn’t give u enough gas anymore to drive this far.
We are currently dealing with 10 dollars the gallon in Europe so you have a little bit still to go. I can’t imagine the mess this is making in countries that do not have the US or EU purchasing power.
Edit: disregard my math, I’ve rounded a gallon to 3 litters because I’m not familiar with freedom units.
Which country? I’ve checked the historical average in Spain and Gasoil was the most expensive with a 2€/l, gasoline 1.8€/l (tax included), the max I’ve personally seen is 1.78, in a rather expensive chain (Repsol)
Of course average means there will be a ±0.2€/l depending on the station.
It would seem that particular station is/was more expensive than most of the ones in Spain ever were.
Very volatile situation, but hopefully will lead to a reduction of reliance on Fossils (including Trump) in the near future.
1.8€/L is 8$/Gal for anyone wanting to convert back.
I looked it up and a gallon is 3,785 Liters. In France gazoil is 2.3€ in the Netherlands 2.6€ for example. The Eu average I can find is 2.115€ for gazoil and 1.880€ for SP95. So on average for the EU it is 8.01€ per gallon and 7,12€.
So than convert it to Dollars. Some countries (NL, DE, DK) are even aproaching the 10€ the gallon which is nealy 12$ the gallon.
Honestly, I can’t be bothered to get that worked up about gas. I’ve exclusively bought hybrids for like a decade now, and I’ve moved to areas that are close to work and anything else I want to go to. I fill up less than once a month. If gas is “really high”, it might break $40 for a fill up, which is less than I’d spend at a cheap restaurant if I got an appetizer and two entrees. It’s literally a rounding error on my monthly budget, so even if it was $20/gallon, I would be unfazed.
We went all EV last year, and it’s been great to not care about the price of gas at the pump.
The real problem though, is all the other things you buy like clothes and groceries, etc. are impacted by the price of gas and oil used to create it and ship it around. You may not notice the price directly in fueling you car, but eventually, you will be paying dearly because of those high gas prices.
Same boat. Gas prices mostly hit people driving gas guzzlers hardest, and that’s actually a good thing. Maybe you shouldn’t drive a “non-passenger work vehicle” that exists purely in a loophole carved out by car manufacturers to avoid fuel efficiency standards as your primary personal vehicle.
US car manufacturers were incentivized to do that and to push for policy and marketing that encourages pickup ownership because pickups have had a protective tariff, making them more profitable than other types of vehicles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax
The Chicken Tax is a 25 percent tariff on light trucks (and originally on potato starch, dextrin, and brandy) imposed in 1964 by the United States under President Lyndon B. Johnson in response to tariffs placed by France and West Germany on importation of U.S. chicken.[1] The period from 1961 to 1964[2] of tensions and negotiations surrounding the issue was known as the “Chicken War”, taking place at the height of Cold War politics.[3]
Eventually, the tariffs on potato starch, dextrin, and brandy were lifted,[4] but since 1964 this form of protectionism has remained in place to give US domestic automakers an advantage over imported competitors.[5] Though concern remains about its repeal,[6][7] a 2003 Cato Institute study called the tariff “a policy in search of a rationale.”[4]
https://www.slashgear.com/1809287/chicken-tax-explained-history-current-impact/
If you’re an automaker, you want to market those protected vehicles to consumers, because it’s more-profitable. You don’t really have to compete with foreign-made autos in that particular class.
And you want to lobby for policy that encourages consumers to buy them. So, for example, the US has more-stringent towing standards than does Europe. You need a bigger vehicle to tow a given amount of weight…which encourages buying pickups. And the US has emissions standards that give special preference to large vehicles.
https://newrepublic.com/article/180263/epa-tailpipe-emissions-loophole
While the new emissions rules have been praised in most coverage for tightening standards and thus speeding the transition to electric vehicles, they also preserve long-standing special treatment for big trucks and SUVs, which exempt larger cars from more stringent emissions standards. The EPA has made a little-noticed attempt in the rule to keep companies from exploiting the sorts of loopholes they have in the past, but industry giveaways that were added into the final rule could undermine their ability to reduce emissions. When the rules take effect, for instance, starting with cars in the 2027 model year, Ford Super Duty pickups will reportedly be able to emit more than three times as much carbon dioxide as light-duty pickups like the still very large Ford F-150, and nearly four times as much as a passenger car.
“The biggest pickup trucks are allowed very gentle treatment. If you create a loophole, that’s what they will drive through,” Dan Becker, director of the Center for Biological Diversity’s Safe Climate Transport campaign, says of the new rules. “Vehicles are getting larger and larger because the larger the vehicle, the weaker the standard.”
The best part about owning the hybrid is watching the Brahs fill up their Brodozers while you drive in, fill up, and leave for two weeks while the gently weep wondering how they can afford their protein.
I also don’t sweat gas prices but it affects a lot of people disproportionately. A lot of low income earners have to drive a lot, either because of the job or because they can’t live closer to where they work. It’s not like they charge a fuel surcharge for lawn care for example.
It’s not like they charge a fuel surcharge for lawn care for example.
A college student in my area rigged a small trailer behind his mountain bike to pull a mower and blower. His fuel costs: zero. He actually sells his service as a green lawncare and is completely booked.
Meanwhile guys roll up in their F250s and idle and blame Obama because they are not making money.
I have heard this, and it sucks, but also good. Low income earners also have considered gas an “ignorable expense” for too long. It’s something that some budget for, but for most its simply ignored.
Everyone should realize how much they depend on oil. For low income hopefully they wake up and start considering other modes of travel. Carpools, bikes, transit (and demanding better transit too). It’s not fair that it affects them more, but the vast vast majority of Americans consider gas to be “normal” and its high time everyone gets real with how fragile the system is there.
But also good?
Try it sometime. Being poor saddles people with so many extra burdens, what’s one more right? Fuel has never been an “ignorable expense.”
Lots of this demographic rely on tools and supplies to perform their jobs. How would that work with carpools, bike and transit? It simply doesn’t.
I had a contractor call up 2 weeks go and tell me he couldn’t fix a problem simply because he couldn’t afford the gas to my site. He’s a great guy we’ve used for years.
I have been poor, most if my life, and I stand by it.
Your contractor? You’re thinking about gas, and your contractor is. Good. We should be thinking of gas as this wildly volatile thing that can completely upend life on the whim of giant corporations, and thinking of using alternatives.
I think of gas as a necessary thing that I need to buy to get somewhere. I’d LOVE to have an EV or a hybrid but they cost more money than I can spend on a car. The cheapest used hybrid here is 5 times what I paid for my current very reliable diesel.
My parents recently saw this when buying a new car. My mother really only drives within a 30 minute radius of home, not far. Fuel-wise, an EV would be perfect for her. But even a used hybrid was outside of the price range they could spend. So used gas engine it is.
Long term they’ll be paying more because they couldn’t handle the up front cost for the better option. What was that bit about good boots from Discworld again?
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