Documentation of Lemmy.ml's Extremism [Megathread]
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Good job everyone blocking and boycotting .ml! It’s having an effect, users are noticing and MAUs on their comms are falling!
And for anyone asking “Why are we boycotting/blocking lemmy.ml?” Here’s a quick recap:
Lemmy.ml is an instance run by admins who are hardcore tankies and will enforce their ideology on their instance through various means from allowing (and pushing it themselves) propaganda (Such as Russia being justified in some way to invade Ukraine) and known propaganda outlets (Like RT) to removing content on their instance critical of their favored authoritarian regimes such as Russia or China and even banning users for such speech or speech critical of them if it’s off their instance (Just like the Reddit mods of ol!).
If it was just some random instance it would have been defederated from long ago like the rest of the “Tankie Triad” (Hexbear and Lemmygrad), but they’ve positioned lemmy.ml as the “flagship” instance and abused that position and influence to become large enough to keep other instances from defederating from them.
Which I believe is harmful to the Lemmy-verse’s overall growth and outside reputation. I have seen it come up before on Reddit threads (and other testimonials from people who came back and tried it again) that “They tried Lemmy but it was a bunch of tankies and went back to Reddit”
I don’t know about you, but I’d prefer Lemmy to not end up with the reputation for being “Tankie Central " or even worse “Voat 2.0”.
So if you haven’t joined the boycott yet, join today and help us foster a better healthier Lemmy-verse!
You can take a look around here on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works for documentation of it or checkout this list of curated documentation
Noteworthy Selection
Full collection list at the end
Dessalines - Head .ml admin - Head Lemmy Dev
“Slava Ukraini” is considered a “Fascist slogan” - https://lemmy.world/post/36065538
“NK is actually good, and anything counter to that is Western LIES” - https://lemmy.world/post/31595035
“The BBC is not a credible news source” - https://lemmy.world/post/35824465
Showing support for Ukraine on .ml is worthy of a site ban - https://lemmy.world/post/32775563
Open declaration of support for Russia - https://lemmy.world/post/27352415
“Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! - https://lemmy.world/post/30580167
Censoring criticism of China while allowing fellow “in-crowd” user “concentration camps were just reeducation camps and weren’t that bad” misinfo to remain - https://lemmy.world/post/26985447
Censoring when users call out propaganda - https://lemmy.world/post/32776038 | https://lemmy.world/post/33416433 | https://lemmy.world/post/34051329 | https://lemmy.world/post/35919522
Discussing winnie the pooh and/or the negatives of china is a 30 day ban - https://lemmy.world/post/35374967
Davel - .ml admin
Spreading anti-ukraine Russian propaganda - https://lemmy.world/post/34655572
General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet - https://lemmy.world/post/27426510
“See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” - https://lemmy.world/post/30673342
Response to a valid report of “NK is actually good” as propaganda/misinfo https://lemmy.world/post/32627834
Removal of a credible article that was on the Uyghur genocide - https://lemmy.world/post/33205310
It’s totally fine when Russia kills woman and children, war is war after all - https://lemmy.world/post/33224299
Nutomic - 2nd in command Lemmy Dev
Their continued transphobia - https://lemmy.world/post/29222558
General Tankie user behaviour
“Propaganda is good actually” - https://lemmy.world/post/36162233
“The China censorship tool isnt actually censorship! And if it is, it’s actually a good thing a state has that much power!” https://lemmy.world/post/30010789
Rooting for Russia in the Russia-Ukraine war https://lemmy.world/post/29274763
Spreading Russia talking points like the Ukraine invasion just being a “negotiating tactic” https://lemmy.world/post/27012640
Biden is worse than Trump - https://lemmy.world/post/33631617
Uyghur Genocide denialism - https://lemmy.world/post/33873969
Full Collection
https://lemmy.world/post/34395059 https://lemmy.world/post/32720369 https://lemmy.world/post/32298242 https://lemmy.world/post/32471440 https://lemmy.world/post/35919522 https://lemmy.world/post/32292143 https://lemmy.world/post/35254858 https://lemmy.world/post/32222856 https://lemmy.world/post/32426343 https://lemmy.world/post/32058315 https://lemmy.world/post/35919814 https://lemmy.world/post/32775892 https://lemmy.world/post/33554899 https://lemmy.world/post/33194656 https://lemmy.world/post/34502019 https://lemmy.world/post/34502777 https://lemmy.world/post/34503244 https://lemmy.world/post/35919218 https://lemmy.world/post/36120253 https://lemmy.world/post/36120386 https://lemmy.world/post/32825174 https://lemmy.world/post/32426884 https://lemmy.world/post/32191006 https://lemmy.world/post/32720652 https://lemmy.world/post/32676095 https://lemmy.world/post/32298242 https://lemmy.world/post/32292143 https://lemmy.world/post/32221990 https://lemmy.world/post/32222278 https://lemmy.world/post/32222991 https://lemmy.world/post/32223697 https://lemmy.world/post/32224698 https://lemmy.world/post/32425984 https://lemmy.world/post/31569892 https://lemmy.world/post/31368129 https://lemmy.world/post/31329952 https://lemmy.world/post/31596159 https://lemmy.world/post/30665418 https://lemmy.world/post/30876228 https://lemmy.world/post/31090903 https://lemmy.world/post/31329952 https://lemmy.world/post/31368129 https://lemmy.world/post/29490804 https://lemmy.world/post/29507466 https://lemmy.world/post/29878102 https://lemmy.world/post/29980157 https://lemmy.world/post/28480760 https://lemmy.world/post/28481615 https://lemmy.world/post/28482147 https://lemmy.world/post/28480936 https://lemmy.world/post/28482273 https://lemmy.world/post/28481272 https://lemmy.world/post/28481064 https://lemmy.world/post/27674360 https://lemmy.world/post/27674117 https://lemmy.world/post/27673934 https://lemmy.world/post/27673724 https://lemmy.world/post/27577337 https://lemmy.world/post/27378634 https://lemmy.world/post/27346630 https://lemmy.world/post/27341283 https://lemmy.world/post/27288224 https://lemmy.world/post/27156418Evidence of bans, censorship and bias to push their ‘ideology’
https://lemmy.world/post/32764202 https://lemmy.world/post/32323822 https://lemmy.world/post/32283425 https://lemmy.world/post/32289824 https://lemmy.world/post/32337368 https://lemmy.world/post/30843744 https://lemmy.world/post/28275465 https://lemmy.world/post/27428838 https://lemmy.world/post/27416097Allowing known propaganda outlets, altered headlines and general misinfo tactics
Why am I cross-posting .ml content? And account listing used for it
> I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to help vitilize non-.ml comms and make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don’t want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some active niche comms. Some highlights from the link: .ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558
The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: https://lemmy.world/post/18236068 “If you don’t support Russia then you just don’t understand geopolitics” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415 “Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167 “See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” ~ Davel, .ml admin
https://lemmy.world/post/30673342 “NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035 General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510 And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can’t even put them all here because this comment would be really long. I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like “Lemmy? Isn’t that the place with a bunch of tankies?” Or “Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left”. The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team.
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Was just banned from memes.ml and shamed for “throwing Palestine under the bus” (I voted for Kamala) in order to “save myself” (Was voting against Trump’s anti Trans stance)
Fuck lemmy.ml
that’s because tankies are pro-trump
they believe in critical support for trump and prefer attacking liberals instead of conservatives and actual fascists
The FIRST thing I did when I set up my piefed instance was defederate all of the tankie triad
Concerning
My rebuttal to this post: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/45909409
Your “rebuttal” is an absolute joke.
Sorry about the delay in my reply to you.
First of all your argument can be basically summed up as “They didn’t LITERALLY say those things, so it’s all invalid” like LMAO it’s called interpreting ones actions and subtext
For example, with this
No Dessalines didn’t literally say they openly support Russia, but the meme they posted says it. It states that if you support Palestine and Russia (aka fitting into the upper right quadrant), you “understand the core of geopolitics”
And dessalines very much positions himself as someone who “understands the core of geopolitics” so…put 2 and 2 together lol
Second, it was quite disingenuous of you to not even mention the “Full Collection” listing which is probably 50 links deep with a variety of evidence that any number of paints a clear picture of the censorship, what they support, the ideology and literal propaganda they spread or allow to spread.
Finally, I’d like to point out that your rebuttal thread sits at a 0 after over a month for the !rant@lemmy.sdf.org version, with quite a controversial voting total.
Note, that instance that comm is on is probably one of the most federated instances on the Threadiverse, as a matter of their instance policy they have a very very light touch on defederation. Your write up had the widest possible exposure and still couldn’t end with a net positive. Along with a very wide range of comments.
But, your hexbear version, on probably the most defederated and blocked instance, ended with a positive 80 or something when I last saw, with nearly every comment just being in agreement. That’s an echo chamber right there LMAO
I’ve already been proudly banned from both hexbear & .ml . It happened almost instantly, LoL! They’re just allergic to reasonable criticism.
The other day the World Admins admitted to supporting the Lemmy Devs, so I spread the word then deleted my account on their instance.
Deleted by moderator
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2307.06981
Why how odd you didn’t copy the entire block
Thus it is of wide spread usage to mean “authoritarian communists” regardless of whether or not it’s in a bonafide dictionary. Which, I might add, is a follower not a leader in language.
Furthermore, the entirety of their large scale study seems to be based on that definition
I think Petterson’s succinct definition is one of the best ones I’ve encountered, but the one in that study isn’t too bad—it’s certainly better than Wikipedia’s. I take issue with just two of the terms:
Stalinist is just a pejorative for Marxist-Leninist, and authoritarianism is a practically useless word that’s based purely on one’s ideology.
All states are authoritarian because they have monopolies on the use of violence. Liberals don’t view the routine weaponization of the bourgeois state against poor people as authoritarianism, but will instantly decry the reverse as such. Thus, a billionaire landlord evicting a single mother isn’t characterized as authoritarian, but Maoists giving landlords the boot is. Germany seizing the bank accounts of critics of Israel (as happened recently) isn’t labeled authoritarian, but the Stasi doing the same to corrupt capitalists in East Germany was.
Aaand we’ve reached authoritarianism isn’t real. Go ask average people what they think “authoritarianism” means and you’ll get answers that center around suppressing freedom of speech, journalism, censorship.
Are there people who do call your examples authoritarianism? Absolutely. But there are also real people who claim the earth is flat.
So you don’t think taking away someone’s bank account for their comments counts as suppressing free speech? Do you even read what you type?
Censorship? Like when the authoritarian Western regimes and corporations ban all Russian and Chinese journalism?
“bUt ThAt’S dIsInfOrMaTiOn!”
And that’s exactly what they say of American
news mediapropaganda!Ok tankie.