What Do You Think of What I would have Preferred ‘Pluribus’ to Be.

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I really like this series & find it unique & interesting, though I do not have Apple + streaming service & It is not yet downloading in order & all the episodes to my ‘PLEX’ service, so all I have watched are FIRST-2-EPISODES, SO PLEASE NO SPOILERS/NOTHING ABOUT EPISODES PAST 2ND.

I tried to post a thread with what people thought of the show & this thread’s topic, but it was dominated by with exchanging replies on what the repliers thought of the show.

Even though one those repliers, MotoAsh, & I debated a long time about the alien microscopic Beings effect on The Living Planet’s & thus All Living Beings ability to survive, I love that MotoAsh expressed (even if his effect was wrong) so strong of concern for things that matter most to me- The Living Planet’s & thus All Living Beings.

See if you think this would have been a better story line to the series-

Our stupid need to explore space & need for Rich-Super Rich Economic Classes/Owners to make profits/wealths over everything else, while on Earth there are huge, sick & evil problems that gets push aside. SPOILER, IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN FIRST-2-EPISODES, From ‘The Pluribus’ series- Microscopic Beings stowaway on spaceship back to Earth & they escape within a scientist, because she accidentally injects herself with some of them.

The microscopic Beings are of two-make-ups, one is like ‘The Pluribus’ series where they are all of one-minds & no room for individuality & the other make-up is all are individuals & no room for shared existence, no matter how many bodies they both take over. Both are the problems, The not infected/controlled people are individualistic, unlike ‘The Pluribus’ series microscopic Beings, but they can also come together to act as one, not just because they can share one-mind, like the microscopic Beings, more importantly, over time they learn they can respect, understand & Etc. work together for the betterment of the species & for the species survival. Thanks to appreciating their shared experiences, from the good & bad happening all around them. Thus they can do what both (I guess that is the best scientific term to use) families of species of The Microscopic Beings can do, at will though, switching back & forth. Sure I like how the members of our species that cannot yet be turned are far from healthy members of our species. Like the main character is a alcoholic.

People have asked why, so I will put it here for all to read,

I am tired of the individualistic BLANK in our entertainment, when really if honestly look at our country, let alone most countries (especially Capitalist & Caucasian dominated countries), individualism is the problem & is manipulated by The Rich-Super Rich Economic Classes/Owners for their benefits.

Look at The Canada & Scandinavian Countries, where just being respectful, understanding & Etc. working together for the betterment of their lives, thanks to appreciating their shared experiences, from the good & bad happening all around them. Result better countries & people living in them. Thought of adding this now, they are of course not perfect, nothing is perfect, even the best country- Denmark is not perfect. Of course I agree the people, in the above, are almost entirely Caucasian & thus that are not Caucasian & already there are treated a lot worse (like Canada’s Indigenous peoples) & those non-Caucasian people trying to get in have go through tons of Capitalist dominated EU countries that try make as hard as possible to get through.

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This gives me the same vibes as all those directors who use an IP and substitute their own fanfic for the actual story…

Like, why? At this point you’re not discussing potential minor improvements and changes, but an actual entirely different story.


Sure I like how the members of our species that cannot yet be turned are far from healthy members of our species. Like the main character is a alcoholic.

When I see statements like this, I kind of have to turn the question around.

Out of the over 8 billion people on the planet, can you name a person who is actually perfect? Who exactly is a “healthy member” of our species? And why are we not all following them and sharing what they have to teach?


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So it’s difficult to discuss this show as you’ve only seen the first two episodes and I’ve watched all nine episodes twice.

However even from the first two episodes, I’m not sure you and I watched the same show.

I think it’s fine to wish for a show to be something, but you can’t fault a show for not being something it never tried to be. You can’t watch Shakespeare and complain that it lacked a big car chase scene.

I think you’ve picked up on some of the themes of Pluribus, but you haven’t caught them all, and you may be wrong about others.

You can’t watch Shakespeare and complain that it lacked a big car chase scene.

Hey, now that you mention it, that’s a huge problem. Who funded these scripts?


THE WHOLE 9-episodes twice! WOW! How?

Thanks for not spoiling,

I think it’s fine to wish for a show to be something, but you can’t fault a show for not being something it never tried to be.

It is not coincidence that there are shows that start-out the way I would have preferred, The Rich-Super Rich Economic Classes/Owners do not okay their studios to make those shows. & that influences the shows they get pitched,

You can’t watch Shakespeare and complain that it lacked a big car chase scene.

Come man, that is a terrible analogy to what the series is to what I would preferred it to be. Shakespeare’s time knew nothing our automobiles, let their big chase scenes.



I really enjoyed the show and look forward to more. There’s a lot going on in terms of metaphor use, with Vince Gilligan’s somewhat dry humor.

I just torrented the whole series since I’m also not subbed to Apple at the moment.

Got me to finally go back to watch Better Call Saul which I just finished recently! And now I’m back onto Breaking Bad for the second time.

There’s a lot going on in terms of metaphor use, with Vince Gilligan’s somewhat dry humor.

What are those?

I forget everything at this point but there’s the stuff like how isolating the automated world can be, there’s the weird AI chat bot angle. And the main plot elements like how it’s a little alien, a little virus.

Maybe those are the main ones, but it’s interesting the different little elements of those they can mix into the main actual premise.

And Vince Gilligan’s dry humor seems to come from often come from living in those awkward silent moments. Both the ones between characters and others like just waiting to watch something play out expectedly or unexpectedly.




Amazing series.

Your take is weird.

Who take? Mine?

If it is me, just remember I love the series, because it is so interesting & different.

Yeah sorry, that was a shitty thing to say.

Thank you, I appreciate that, is rare in The Internet.

We need to be exchanging with each other, more often. Even if we disagree,

That is the way I think, outside the box & anti-Capitalism, now that we are moving to Feudalism, have to say, & anti-Capitalism & anti-Feudalism.





Your post confused me a bit so I want to clarify: you’re proposing an alternate path for Pluribus, where instead of one strain of the Joining virus there are two; one strain is the classic “no room for individualism” as we see in the show, and the other gives room for individualism but also creates a shared pool of knowledge between the “infected”? And there are still those who can’t be “joined” by either virus strain/version?

Do I have that right?


It’s been a long time since a show has captured my imagination like this.

The other day I had nothing to do at work in the office, so I just opened notepad and started typing out Pluribus ideas.

spoiler

What would I ask the Hive for?

How would I solve their food problem?

What could the cure be, how would I prevent them from conversion me, etc etc.

It’s a great show that can do that.

I am glad, like you the show captured your imagination, but come-on man,

FIRST-2-EPISODES, SO PLEASE NOTHING ABOUT EPISODES PAST 2ND.

Apologies, i promise they aren’t big spoilers though and are just natural extensions of what you already know

No problems, I accept your apologies. I just wish the 3rd-episode would drop into my PLEX like it is supposed to, so I continue.

I hear Jellyfin is the new plex. Regardless the show is worth torrenting now rather than waiting on ;p






skavau is a clown

What asinine decisions do the Hive make?

skavau is a clown

Such as?

skavau is a clown

So far as I’ve seen you’re purely focusing on them being reckless with the plane as contradicting their ethos.




Dude, stop being ridiculous. I didn’t block you.

Jesus, so you’re Skavau. Did this dude seriously just edit every single comment they made under this post just to mess with you?

His entire post history under the false idea that I blocked him.






When you are dealing with advanced & outside our notions of what aliens are & what can be done, then anything can just about be done. Look at ‘Star Trek’ universe’s Original Series, ‘The Next Generation’ & ‘The Animated Series’ for example,

Who is Vince?

I do not know what TL;DR means?

skavau is a clown

Makes sense to me with the limitation of how much one human brain can process at once. The only flaw that bothered me is sending any signal from a brain in the first place which should have also been limited at least by range and latency.

That is an awesome point, I had not thought of that. With that being said, could not be dealt at least some, by just leaving the stuff you do not need in the original mind & use only what you need from that mind.


skavau is a clown

I get more from this reply what mean. I do not see them not having the professional skills? What does the professional behaviors matter, they are not the skills to do the professional things, like they ober & over again flying jets & helicopters.




I understand what half our sentence is communicating, for previous stated reasons I am good with it.
But the second part of sentence I you were trying to say, they say that since each infected body shares the whole minds of the whole that are infected, any infected body can do what anyother inefected body can do. Again for previous stated reasons I am good with it.

skavau is a clown

is that not what I said in my previous reply? If not, then what do you mean?







Why did you make another post on this?

Reread the post starting this thread, it is explained right in it!



For everyone questioning if I watched the correct ‘Pluribus’ Or saying I should rewatch the 2-episodes (then I had only watched), because I had key elements of the 1st episode wrong…

…1st. FINALLY, my friend was able to get ‘Pluribus’ episodes 1st-6th on his ‘PLEX’, we share our ‘PLEX’s (SP?), (PRIME quickly removed the first episode from free to watch, cannot afford subscription),

2nd. After rewatching 1st episode, you were right. Thank you, for bringing it to my attention.

3rd. I will stick with everything else I have posted, especially >>>>>I am tired of the individualistic BLANK in our entertainment, when really if honestly look at our country, let alone most countries (especially Capitalist & Caucasian dominated countries), individualism is the problem & is manipulated by The Rich-Super Rich Economic Classes/Owners for their benefits.

Look at The Canada & Scandinavian Countries, where just being respectful, understanding & Etc. working together for the betterment of their lives, thanks to appreciating their shared experiences, from the good & bad happening all around them. Result better countries & people living in them. Thought of adding this now, they are of course not perfect, nothing is perfect, even the best country- Denmark is not perfect. Of course I agree the people, in the above, are almost entirely Caucasian & thus that are not Caucasian & already there are treated a lot worse (like Canada’s Indigenous peoples) & those non-Caucasian people trying to get in have go through tons of Capitalist dominated EU countries that try make as hard as possible to get through.<<<<<


I think you need to go back and rewatch those episodes. There are no kidnapped microscopic beings.

Hell, there isn’t even a spaceship. It’s a DNA sequence encoded in a signal broadcast through space.



None of that happened in Pluribus. Maybe you dreamt it? There were no aliens, microscopic or otherwise.


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