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Chinese airlines to raise fuel surcharges on domestic flights as the war in the Middle East drives up oil prices

… Air China, China Southern and its subsidiary Xiamen Airlines said in statements that they will increase surcharges on flights of up to 800 kilometers by 60 yuan ($8.70), and 120 yuan for longer flights. Spring Airlines and Juneyao Airlines also announced fuel surcharge hikes.

… The move comes as the war in the Middle East, and Iran’s effective closure of the crucial Strait of Hormuz, have sent crude prices soaring.


Chinese airlines to raise fuel surcharges on domestic flights as the war in the Middle East drives up oil prices

… Air China, China Southern and its subsidiary Xiamen Airlines said in statements that they will increase surcharges on flights of up to 800 kilometers by 60 yuan ($8.70), and 120 yuan for longer flights. Spring Airlines and Juneyao Airlines also announced fuel surcharge hikes.

… The move comes as the war in the Middle East, and Iran’s effective closure of the crucial Strait of Hormuz, have sent crude prices soaring.



Wher did I or this article claim ALL Canadians think tbis? We are talking about your leaders.

I didn’t say that. You may have misunderstood my comment. At least it’s not what I meant.

The only thing I say is that - at least from my point of view - social media posts are not enough to come up with such a headline, especially as Carney has shown much more double standards these days by defending his MP Michael Ma’s approach regarding Chinese forced labour (and even hailing Ma for his political views as I have read).


I feel this article a bit overblown, as it says,

Statements made on X (formerly Twitter) by the minister of foreign affairs, Anita Anand, about Iran, Ukraine and Lebanon over the past month suggest that Canada places more blame on Iran for the war than it does on the actual aggressors.

All the media outlet is citing are statements on Xitter by the minister, and from that they infer that “Canada’s double standards on Iran put the world at risk”. I don’t support the U.S. nor Israel, but if they don’t have more research than social media posts, this a bit clickbaity imho.


It was not Canada that started the war against Iran. The Middle East Eye might have confused this with Carney’s double standards regarding China’s forced labour.



You own your property in China the same way you own it in western countries.

No, this is simply wrong.



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Chinese airlines to raise fuel surcharges on domestic flights as the war in the Middle East drives up oil prices

… Air China, China Southern and its subsidiary Xiamen Airlines said in statements that they will increase surcharges on flights of up to 800 kilometers by 60 yuan ($8.70), and 120 yuan for longer flights. Spring Airlines and Juneyao Airlines also announced fuel surcharge hikes.

… The move comes as the war in the Middle East, and Iran’s effective closure of the crucial Strait of Hormuz, have sent crude prices soaring.


Chinese airlines to raise fuel surcharges on domestic flights as the war in the Middle East drives up oil prices

… Air China, China Southern and its subsidiary Xiamen Airlines said in statements that they will increase surcharges on flights of up to 800 kilometers by 60 yuan ($8.70), and 120 yuan for longer flights. Spring Airlines and Juneyao Airlines also announced fuel surcharge hikes.

… The move comes as the war in the Middle East, and Iran’s effective closure of the crucial Strait of Hormuz, have sent crude prices soaring.



Wher did I or this article claim ALL Canadians think tbis? We are talking about your leaders.

I didn’t say that. You may have misunderstood my comment. At least it’s not what I meant.

The only thing I say is that - at least from my point of view - social media posts are not enough to come up with such a headline, especially as Carney has shown much more double standards these days by defending his MP Michael Ma’s approach regarding Chinese forced labour (and even hailing Ma for his political views as I have read).


I feel this article a bit overblown, as it says,

Statements made on X (formerly Twitter) by the minister of foreign affairs, Anita Anand, about Iran, Ukraine and Lebanon over the past month suggest that Canada places more blame on Iran for the war than it does on the actual aggressors.

All the media outlet is citing are statements on Xitter by the minister, and from that they infer that “Canada’s double standards on Iran put the world at risk”. I don’t support the U.S. nor Israel, but if they don’t have more research than social media posts, this a bit clickbaity imho.


It was not Canada that started the war against Iran. The Middle East Eye might have confused this with Carney’s double standards regarding China’s forced labour.



You own your property in China the same way you own it in western countries.

No, this is simply wrong.




China has a homeownership rate that’s half again as big as the US

This is part of the ongoing misinformation by ml.

In the 1980s, China ‘formalized’ what is called ‘property rights’ of Chinese people. The government effectively granted citizens lease rights. These lease rights usually have a maturity of several decades (70 years if I remember correctly). However, the Chinese party-state still owns the land, which means the lease rights can be revoked at any time.

Now, propaganda channels report of high ‘property ownership in China,’ which is simply false. It’s basically some sort of subordination and serfdom: as long as you play by our rules and don’t ‘make trouble’, you can ’own’ your flat. Just don’t criticize the Party or like the wrong post or something …

So the story of a high home ownership rate in China complete rubbish.


@frisbird@lemmy.ml

Here’s an article from an actual anthropologist: https://www.culturalsurvival.org/publications/cultural-survival-quarterly/teaching-tibetan-tibet-bilingual-education-survival

This article is from 2010. It’s 16 years old.

And it has, of course, nothing to do with the fact that China’s government is, once again, committing genocide.


It’s an absurdly weird statement to distract from the fact of Chinese forced labour.


These are empty words. What the Chinese Communist Party is doing here amounts to genocide.


it’s not such a terrible thing to have various perspectives in the party.

This is not a ‘perspective’ as there is strong evidence of forced labour in China. In addition, Carney himself called out China as Canada’s biggest security threat less than a year ago.

And a question like, ‘Had the witness witnessed forced labor there?, isn’t reasonable but disingenuous, ignorant, and right out of the Chinese Communist Party’s playbook.


Can Szijjártó and others be held legally accountable for this behaviour? Does anyone know what the law says?



I don’t think that U.S. citizens ‘are still convincing themselves’ that it won’t happen given the protests there, and from what I hear from my own sources in the country and from U.S. people living abroad. The majority of U.S. people don’t want to become a country like China, and I am firmly convinced that a majority of Chinese don’t want their autocratic government, it’s just much harder to protest than in the U.S.


… american media to be loyal to the dear leader

There’s a lot room for improvement in U.S. media, but I can read a strong body of articles highly critical of the country’s leader, despite Trump’s push to suppress free speech.

However, there are no article in China critical of the country’s leader. How does that come?


It is about as reliable as the NYT or CNN.

I don’t trust the NYT much less than I did in the meantime, still a bit more CNN, but it’s perfectly alright to verify content regardless of the source. Reuters, AP, and a lot of Western media have ‘business agreements” with Chinese state-media (which, essentially, means they have agreements with the Chinese Communist Party). There is a brief article, The Politics of Pure Business, published by the China Media Project some time ago if you are interested.

Influence operation in the West by Chinese media goes far beyond this. A great project about this is Lingua Sinica, a tool enabling you to research possible Chinese influence in any country’s media. It’s an exceptional source. So the influence can come from all sides, not just the U.S. or any Western government.

What makes Chinese state-media outlets special is they are inherently propaganda tools. They publish everything what the Party wants, and nothing what the Party doesn’t want. This is not comparable to any Western media, no matter whether the Western outlets are publicly or privately funded. I don’t say that we in the West have a perfect media, but the structure in China is fundamentally different.

You can see this now in the U.S. very clearly, for example. Despite the fact that the Florida man is trying to turn his country into a dictatorship close to the one in China, you can read a lot of articles and reports in the U.S. that are critical of Donald Trump. But you can’t find even a single critical article about Xi Jinping in Chinese media.