He also controlled that as he could outspend the opposition 500 times as much on ads there. TikTok was fully Orbán-sided, Twitter was too despite not really being relevant in Hungary, Facebook was also on his side.
Reddit was the one platform that wasn’t.
Magyar’s counter was doing rallies and basically taking a year to go to every single settlement in Hungary.
Péter Magyar won the election in a blowout making Orbán’s party practically irrelevant. He is an ex-Fidesz member that broke off and is heading a broad grassroots party.
He himself is old-school conservative coded, but his party is very broad and includes everyone from racial justice activists to members of the military to quite literally random people. Most of his party is brand new to politics and made up of working class people, most new representatives were like the town doctor or engineers before.
The party’s policies are a working social net including investments into education and healthcare, an independent prosecutors office and EPPO membership, a special office to prosecute corrupt politicians, adopting the Euro and contributing to a stronger EU and stronger voices to the Eastern EU in Brussels, support for racial, sexual and other minorities and so on.
His party’s top leadership includes people who worked tirelessly for uplifting Romani people, they achieved raising the rate of high school enrolment in some of the poorest areas of Hungary from 10% to 100%.
This was still during Orbán’s rule.
IDK what you base the white supremacist claims on, especially as much of his electorate is not white.
I’ve seen interviews conducted by news sources I trust where Romani people were quoted saying “when he speaks, we’re all Hungarians”.
Also, illiberalism is not the opposite of liberalism, please look stuff up.
He needed to present as ideologically the same as Fidesz in order to avoid the election turning into an idpol clusterfuck.
That’s voter fraud, not election fraud is my point.
His job is not to reform the EU, his job is to fix Hungary. For that, he needs to normalise relations with the EU, or the country is going bankrupt in months.
The party which would have been with the social democrats in the EPP has managed to erode workers rights and introduce austerity while their politicians were getting rich off of public funds.
I’ll take a renewables focused climate policy, less corporate welfare, and generally better social services funded by wealth taxes and reclaimed national wealth from the rich over saying the right things in Brussels.
At least to me, workers should matter more to the left than party colours or performative bullshit.
The party around him seems very different.
Not every country’s politics is like the US. Please read up on Hungary in the past 2 years and you might get less cynical.
There is no “ratchet” in Hungary. It literally could not get worse save for going full-on Belarus. And the people, the party and even the electorate behind Magyar are people who mostly haven’t been in politics yet. The “ratchet” liberal party has been kicked out of politics this election along with the government. Explicitly because they were the do-nothing party.
Tisza can’t afford to be that.
He’s also extremely nationalist, anti-immigration, and his attitude to LGBT is silence (which is only marginally better than hatred)
Can we stop the idpol a bit? He is also campaigning on wealth taxes, fighting back against oligarchs and corporations, anti-corruption, strong social safety nets paid by reclaimed wealth and so on.
What do you expect a politician to be if not nationalistic? He was running for national office. If anything, he supports international collaboration with pro-EU forces in the V4. He is not even staunchly anti-immigration, the whole thing with that was just pointing out hipocrisy in the government. Same with LGBT rights, in an ideal society it should just be normal and nobody should care, especially not the government.
I actually did an experiment on doing just that. For context, I’m an experienced software engineer, whose company buys him a tom of Claude usage so I had time to test out what it can actually do and I feel like I’m capable of judging where it’s good and where it falls short at.
How Claude Code works is that there are actually multiple models involved, one for doign the coding, one “reasoning” model to keep the chain of thought and the context going, and a bunch of small specialized ones for odd jobs around the thing.
The thing that doesn’t work yet is that the big reasoning model has to still be big, otherwise it will hallucinate frequently enough to break the workflow. If you could get one of the big models to run locally, you’d be there. However, with recent advances in quantization and MoE models, it’s actually getting nearer fast enough that I would expect it to be generally available in a year or two.
Today the best I could do was a tool that could take 150 gigs of RAM, 24 gigs of VRAM and AMD’s top of the line card to take 30 minutes what takes Claude Code 1-2. But surprisingly, the output of the model was not bad at all.
If he does that, he will lose the support of his whole party. We’ve done that once before, that’s how we ended up in this mess.
That’s my point, the only easy thing to do is the platform they have the mandate for. They have basically unlimited power to do so.
Usually a heterogenous party is achieved by diluting your message and doing “big tent” and making conflicting promises. Tisza did the opposite, they sharpened their message and made barely any promises, taking great care to limit them to what the whole electorate actually 100% agrees on.
Which includes wealth taxes for the richest and anti-corruption.
The thing is that the only parties I’d trust with that are the ones that stepped back before the election. The only three others on the ballot were the ultranationalist Mi Hazánk, the collaborator DK, and well, MKKP. If that scenario happened with any one of these, they could be paid to be obstructionists.
There is no getting around it, the people will have to keep them to account to implement term limits and the anti-corruption measures they were running on themselves.
Orbán has been funded by Soros if that matters.
Not really. The equivalent of Dem leadership in Hungary has been the DK, which was extremely successful in the past 16 years of destroying any hope of a third option.
Tisza is the “third party” way done right. His policy positions include both nationalistic stuff like stronger representation of the Hungarian diaspora and socialistic stuff like wealth taxes.
He just beat Hungarian Hillary out of parliament completely.
Sorry, but not really, the Christian Democrats were in the govt coalition.
He ran on wealth taxes and going after the rich as well as corporations. He’s kind of a centrist populist, very much not like the CDU.
Puzsér just started crying live on air. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that man happy.
His daughter and son-in-law are already in the US.
It’s all but guaranteed now. It’s not even narrow, almost 70% of parliament.
Why?