Openly and directly threatening genocide.
Civilization (noun):The stage of human social and cultural development and organization that is considered most advanced.
The definition Oxford Languages uses is:
“they equated the railroad with progress and civilization”
I hate to say it, but Trump used the correct definition of civilization in regards to his destruction of civilian infrastructure. It doesn’t imply genocide.
That’s not the meaning of civilization he’s using.
The Oxford Learners Dictionary you used also defines one of the meanings as
a society, its culture and its way of life during a particular period of time or in a particular part of the world
That’s the definition he’s using, and it’s definitely genocide.
Lol thank you for teaching that other commenter about how words can have multiple meanings.
Also, if you’re bickering about the definition of ‘civilization’ when you’re talking about what constitutes genocide, you’re probably committing genocide.
Infrastructure can’t “die”. He’s taking about people, their culture, and everything that makes them who they are. He’s not talking about bridges.
I had the same “well technically” thought at first but destroying that much infrastructure will result in some immediate deaths and mass casualties later. So maybe not technically genocide but in reality it’s close.
I’m not sure what my argument is exactly; I looked up the definition of civilization because I was bored and was shocked when Trump’s statement made literal sense.
That’s because anything coherent from him wasn’t written by him.
You’d think they’d do a better job managing him like they did with Reagan
But there are multiple definitions and he meant another one
He’s referring to the Iranian civilization.
I’m looking at the /r/conservative subreddit right now. Of the comments that weren’t removed (and there aren’t that many, that place is a partisan shithole and a comment graveyard), it’s just accusations of Iranian bots, claims that the Democrats are clutching at pearls, and mental gymnastics claiming that this is part of Trump’s playbook…
How many world leaders have you seen make vulgar and genocidal threats like Trump has over the last few days?
How many world leaders have you seen make vulgar and genocidal threats like Trump has over the last few days?
I can think of another one of the criminal, Bibi Netanyahu.
There is not a single genuine person commenting there. Bots and trolls all the way down.
Putin just threatened to Nuke Ukraine so… I guess the late night gossip calls got then both thinking in unison.
Russia was ‘threatening’ to nuke the collective West for ages, literally at least twelve years now. Mostly via other people though, Pu normally doesn’t do such ramblings himself.
However, Pu knows that bullshit sabre-rattling is different from actually doing things. With Trump, who ever knows what he’s thinking.
I’ve seen a good amount of people at least saying its a bad look for trump at least… some are still clinging on though… idk…
This is a pretty straightforward declaration of genocidal intent. If the Americans bomb civilian infrastructure, there is a credible case for accusing them of Genocide in the Hague.
EDIT: Historian Timothy Snyder also identified it as such, pointing that this creates legal liabilities up and down the American state: https://snyder.substack.com/p/the-president-speaks-genocide
There is but then what?
Iran continues to hit back, making us presence in the middle east untenable. israel is destroyed.
Will someone please help us remove him? Our people who are supposed to do it are too spineless to try.
Where are the international assassins we see in movies??
- Trump will again chicken out.
- He thought (or made to believe) Regime change in Iran will a walk in the park.
- Given the situation he is currently in, he just wants to save his face by any mean.
- Dropping Nuke is biggest threat he can think of.
- He don’t have the guts to follow it through.
- He will just extend the deadline, or declare himself a winner and left Middle East to its fate.
one would also hope the military would not follow such blatantly illegals orders… but my hope on that is dwindling
https://www.axios.com/2026/04/03/military-officials-ousted-retired-trump-hegseth They are purging people from leadership roles in the military.
Good people don’t join an imperialist army.
One of the House reps just put in a resolution to impeach Hegseth, so there’s that.
What recent months have thaught us is that there are only two types of Americans: those that will actively fuck over the world and those that will them.
Trump cannot be undone by Americans, because they all either actively or passively support and enable him. The only possible solution is foreign intervention. Since European leaders are just as useless as the Americans and the Chinese have their own insane imperialist ambitions, I guess we’re all shit out of luck.
Trump cannot be undone by Americans, because they all either actively or passively support and enable him
The number of people joined the latest “No King” protest march across States draws a very different picture though.
Dude, your governement is verbatim (!) talking about killing whole civilzations.
The ratio of Americans that would take the risk of imporisonment or individual harm VS Americans that will risk their lives and die for killing babies (for no apparent reason) basically remains 0 : ∞.
It’s the most armed and violent country in the civilzed world and still it remains perfectly safe to be an operative of the fucking apocalypse.
your governement is verbatim (!) talking about killing whole civilzations.
Not sure if it will make a difference to you if I say that I’m not from USA.
Also, the pedo became president on the back of promise to end getting involved in forever foreign war.
The current sequence of events ran contrary to such promise, and many of die-hard MAGA fans are jumping the ship[1].
Not sure if it will make a difference to you if I say that I’m not from USA.
Yes, in the sense that I find it mindboggling that anyone outside the US would be impressed with Trump’s domestic opposition.
This is the man who wanted to nuke a hurricane. He’d love an opportunity to use that shit on people.
He will wake up tomorrow, and forget all about the veiled nuke threats he made a day before.
Tonight both US and Israel will likely hit harder (compared to what we already witnessed before), leaving a long trail of death (of civilians) and destruction of civilian properties and infras.
Tomorrow the pedo president will claim he sent Iran to stone age, and (again) proclaim victory in this war.
I sure hope you’re right
He’s just been itching to use a nuke since his first term. He has talked about it, joked, even suggested it might be on the table. Let history be your guide, this asshole has a pattern. I’m scared as hell.
I actually think the guy is just old man wants to see war time stuff he thinks is tough happen while he is alive and thinks history books will really remember his name if he dropped a nuke.
He wants heaven and heaven to him is everyone knowing his name.
I suspect and more hope you’re correct.
Don’t forget to account for how fucking impulsive he is
I for one am very thankful for our beautiful Democratic Party, which while all this craziness has entered a fever pitch, they have been loudly and boldly speaking out against this every minute of the day and not focusing on unimportant matters like trying to trash talk Hasan Piker and taking personal vacations to the beach.
I really should start taking my PTO.
Makes me glad I just passed my 6 month probationary period and can use the 6 months I banked while waiting.
Now I’m sincerely hoping it’s gonna be another TACO Tuesday and Trump wimps out at the last second like he always does.
How he hasn’t been 25th Amendmented yet is beyond me…
They’re waiting until the halfway point so Vance can have 2.5 terms.
Ah, just threatening with some casual genocide. No biggie.
Seriously fuck the USA, the only civilisation that deserves to disappear.
I still cant believe Im on Irans side in a war
Unfortunately Iran isn’t the good guy in the war either. I hate to think of the environmental impact blowing up so much fossil fuel infrastructure is causing. Blowing up the LNG plant alone released a horrendous amount of greenhouse gases.
It’s two shitty countries behaving shittily
The US and Israel started this and now have put Iran on “death ground”. So them doing anything they can for regime survival, and after Trump’s genocidal language, civilizational survival is …understandable. It’s grimdark, yes, but there is no “both sides” here.
Israel too tho
Real piece of shit.
Blood thirsty jackass
Some apostates are still in iran. Not all of them landed lucrative projects in regime change think-tanks. This is why I don’t trust America and its eager bloodthirsty soldiers to liberate any of my cities. For warmongers, war is just a way to quell boredom and to sacrifice civilian lives in the name of pretentious logic.
“Vengeance is mine,” sayeth The Lord of American Christians.
That’s what you get with religious believers in power.
