Why are we still talking about shit that Hillary Clinton said nearly 20 years ago?
Because the Republicans are going to get their asses handed to them during the next midterm elections.
Both Parties Are The Same rhetoric gets pumped out by the right, as a part of their broader voter suppression strategy.
It is important to recognize which Democrats are Neoliberals or ruling elite like the Clintons.
By jerking off about something Hillary said nearly 20 years ago?
Yes I’m sure we’ll gain much insight from discussing how much we all hate the Clintons again.
Edit: that is a crazy instadownvote — sus
Will you forgive trump crimes after he is out of office?
No, just like I won’t be forgiving or forgetting your inability to debate in good faith.
If you think jerking yourself off over a widely hated woman is doing anything productive you’re a muppet.
Go back to Reddit
Since you are the one who defend her. It is you who is jerking off to her.
I am discussing in good faith. I want to see your consistancy . You proved you are inconsistant
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Have you been in a coma since 2008?
nearly 20 years ago
Fuck, where does the time go?
Just more noise, like really.
Because we should never forget warmongers. She may decide to run again
“…oh yeah? Well Hillary bla-bla-bla and Biden bla-bla-bla, how about them apples?”
It’s ridiculous to see the mental gymnastics of the cult members at play. All while we’re still dealing with the aftermath of the two wars George W. Bush started, while he and his friends were placing some heavy investments in Halliburton and Blackwater. And coincidentally, the stock market is making leaps and bounds nowadays. Wonder who have been calling their brokers lately.
The only cultist here is you. Both parties you have is the usa are cults. Unlike you, I do not forget war criminals from both side
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Even worse. You are not american yet you still worship american war criminals. Hilary support wars, trump support wars so they those two war criminals that are equally bad. I did not say every democrats is as bad as every republicans
I am not american either I still call for every single goddamn war criminal from both parties to rot in jail including genocide Trump unlike you defending Hilary like she is your dominatrix
The fuck are you on about, kid?
about hating warmongers and criminals
Real-world unhinged behaviour. I haven’t made a single statement about Hilary Clinton since we started. The only one who seems to be obsessed and dominated by her is you, poor man.
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Well, that settles it. There goes my vote for 2008 Clinton.
Why is an ancient quote by a failed presidential candidate that was made 8 fucking years before her campaign being posted anywhere outside of a history sub? Why don’t you post complaints about her email server too?
The infamous “Buttery males”?
Progressives are agianst war criminals.You can report my post, let see if do not fit in the community
Progressives should be against trolling about irrelevant ancient trivia too, yet you posted it anyway.
I am not trolling. Just because you hate that I posted a video about a warmonger, it doesn’t mean I am trolling. If the post was irrelevant, the admin would have removed my post and comments rather than letting people attack me for it.
You are rage baiting
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She voted for the war in Iraq and she was in the administration when the usa intervened in Libya. She is a war criminal whatever you deny it or not. She backed up all recent american imperialist interventions.
If the community had an iq test , you would be the one not allowed here
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You must really enjoy getting dominated by the warmonger Hillary Clinton
I don’t get it… she said she would retaliate against Iran, if Iran attacked Israel with a nuclear weapon. This is inline with any nation that has nuclear weapons, mainly for deterrence, since the start of the Cold War. Do I like it? No… But it’s the reality of nuclear weapons existing. The same would happen if Russia attacked any other US ally… And the same would happen if the US attacked any Russia ally. This is why, ultimately, someone will fuck up, and start a chain of events that may lead to Human’s extinction. Because any nation that uses nuclear weapons has a very high chance of getting hit by one, immediately after! This applies to Murica, to Russia, to Israel, Iran, Pakistan, France, or any other nation that has nuclear weapons, and regardless to who is in power.
I honestly don’t understand what is the value of this “gotcha” sort of post. Is the OP not aware of how nuclear weapons are used for deterrence purposes? I can assure you, this would happen with whichever POTUS would be in power, even if (and specially if) it was Bernie! Are people forgetting how emotionally tied Bernie is to Israel, and that only after much push back, was he wiling to denounce Israel, when some other of his colleagues in the Senate had already done?
Hillary has said far more dumb shit recently, like for example, accusing younger folks of being radicalized against Israel by Tik Tok, simply because they are pro-Palestinian, with complete disregard to uncontestable historical facts. I see no value in this post.
I don’t get it… she said she would retaliate against Iran, if Iran attacked Israel with a nuclear weapon. This is inline with any nation that has nuclear weapons, mainly for deterrence, since the start of the Cold War. Do I like it? No… But it’s the reality of nuclear weapons existing.
She said multiple time after this interview that she would attack Iran at any point of the building of a nuclear weapon . So she want to invite the lie that Trump is currently using it to justify attacking Iran.
Secondly , why should the USA should protect a settler colonial power anyway ? Will she attack Israel if Israel threaten to nuke Palestine or Lebanon? Does having a settler genocidal state called Israel deserve to be an American ally?
And of course you are going to ignore that Hilary backed up multiple American war of aggression . Witch is the exact reason why I called her a warmonger.
I honestly don’t understand what is the value of this “gotcha” sort of post.
There is no gotcha. It is just part of your delusional mind . I understand the concept of deterrence but you can’t claim deterrence over an inexistent threat
Hillary has said far more dumb shit recently, like for example, accusing younger folks of being radicalized against Israel by Tik Tok, simply because they are pro-Palestinian, with complete disregard to uncontestable historical facts. I see no value in this post.
That’s your example of dumb? Not only it is evil but she said worse about Palestine. She do not oppose sending arms to israel , she act like she believe in the pallywood propaganda . Blaming the genocide and all the murder of children on Hamas, blaming Palestinians for peace failures, supporting Israel’s West Bank wall.
Since you are a cunning person , I will say it right now Trump said even more evil things about Palestine then Hillary like asking Israel to finish the job
This whole post is just silly.
How
Oh good. Shit no one cares about…
I mean there are reasons she lost the 2016 election, part of it was the progressive wing staying home, this is pertinent from that lens, but I’m not sure what else?
I wouldn’t project it into a progressive lens, at least not first.
You need to contextualize the moment Hillary’ and the country are in 2008-2016. There had been an anti-war movement as soon as the war plans were announced, but it was dutifully ignored by corporate media, in accordance with American tradition. The American economy was being swept by the peak of the “great-recession”, occupy wall street happens around this time. But that energy really doesn’t get funneled into electoral politics until much later. It was grass-roots, outside power almost exclusively in the context of that time. Many of the leftist orgs that are now considered passe would have been avant-garde in that time (code pink etc). And keep in mind, Hillary was an opponent of Obama. She lost an election, and badly, speaking like this.
Political Progressivism as we understand it today doesn’t really become a thing in the US until Bernie taps into that occupy wall street energy (really, as a direct effect of the both hope given to, and subsequent failure of, the Obama administration) and funnels it into electoral politics.
Disagree, I think you have your timeline mixed up.
The 2016 election occurred well after Occupy Wallstreet, and Bernie Sanders and the progressive wing in the democrats felt snubbed in 2016, which is why many of them stayed home.
I know this because I was one of them, and I will have to live with that decision for the rest of my life.
Edit: I am not realizing you might be referring to the 2008 primary election, I’m talking about the 2016 presidential election here and in my original comment. Contextually it (your response) makes sense based on the date of the video, so I get your point, but not what I was talking about.
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Yeah I’m talking about her in the 2007/8/9 time period. Just that a progressive or even vaguely left win element in electoral hadn’t manifested politically. Those ideas and political power were 100% outside power at the time. So its a bit anachronistic to use the term progressive because in the 2008 time period when this was said we really didn’t neccessarily use that word. At the time might use the term “anti-war” for the same basket of policies. That period was also just after the peak of the neo-cons where the litmus test among Democrats was being “anti-war”, and obviously, Hillary failed that.
She may decide to run again. We should never forget warmongers positions . There is also the rhetoric that genocide Trump was the only one who was stupid enough to start a war of agression on Iran
I would be dumbfounded if she managed to place well in a primary election, people are also allowed to evolve their views.
Since when has placing well in a primary election been a condition for running lol
The thing is Hillary never evolve . Someone may be wrong about one American intervention but to initially openly support all the American interventions then claims to regret it , that person simply become a pathological liar and a hypocrite
Are you from the United States? I don’t mean this any kind of way besides in the United States the Clintons (H and W) are both dead and buried, their most recent discussion was about Bill’s ties to Eppstein.
They aren’t going anywhere politically anytime soon.
Whatever. Fact is that Hilary is still a proven warmonger
I hear your point friend, I think you can say that about a lot of people in US politics.
In the Southern hemisphere, they call her Killiary for reasons.
At the time, she and Donald Trump were besties.
If you just stop criticizing them, the Democratic Party will /save us.
