I don’t see how that doesn’t include No King’s. Unless you have some more definitions for threats of consequences. Because a bunch of people showing up somewhere is, by its nature, both disruptive and consequential, and it does have a list of demands. Plus, I don’t really think the cops being on your side or not is necessary for a protest, since the police can also protest, even if it’s for a cause you don’t agree with.

Okay, what is a protest to you? I’m not sure what you want out of a protest?

So, it’s for socializing, but also most people get over stimulated in large crowds? I suspect, then, that you must experience extreme difficulty in recruiting.

What does a protest look like to you? Clearly, this one is for baby leftists, whatever that is, but you must have an idea of what a protest is, then.

There were a number of people helping organize protests and community action at our No King’s protest. Were you not involved with that? It seems like this particular socializing was helpful for recruiting and spreading a message, but you seem to be against it. Why? This would be (and was) a prime opportunity for it.

Is socializing somehow counter or inhibitive to protesting? And are you basing this off firsthand experience or what’s portrayed in the media?

True. A general strike is great. We don’t have a good foundation for general strikes and worker protections right now, though. So, we’d probably have to get that structured first. Funding is a little harder to control. That would require some sort of tax withholding, which seems harder to do, but I’m not an accountant. A lot of our taxes are taken out by employers, but you could argue about a federal income tax strike or something. I’ve heard people considering it.

But, you see, that’s a lot harder to see on its own. Those aren’t ways to accomplish them. Right? I think pushing people to set up mutual aid groups and such is going to help coordinate that planning. You’ll need food, housing, and money for a prolonged general strike, as well as a means to coordinate. People have to work together, and that takes talent and dedication.

Their ridiculously proposed 1 day general strike on May 1 will do nothing either as people will shift their purchases to another day.

You know, I don’t think you’re right about that. Doing a one day general strike does a couple things. The first is just make it easier for people to protest. If no one is buying things anyway, why even show up for work? The second is to prepare people for what a longer general strike would be like. There will be things that you don’t realize you buy without thinking. And it also challenges people to use what they already have or go without. And the third is that is still affects the numbers. If you don’t buy it today like you were planning… You might not buy it tomorrow either. Maybe you forget. Maybe you find an alternative. Plans can be cancelled for that day or week because of the logistics.

But, why don’t I just ask what you would rather happen instead? Because you post all over here and tantrum but you don’t really want to reveal what you actually want.

That’s not what moving the goal posts mean, but aight, buddy.

You can pretend that your revolution or whatever it is you are trying to push for will be successful,. You can pretend it will save everyone. But you would be choosing to sacrifice the vulnerable. They would feel the effects the hardest. And they would have little say in the matter.

In essence, you’re an accelerationist. Millions or even billions would die and you would be okay with it for a chance to succeed. Personally, I don’t like your odds or your measures. Your outcomes sound great, but I’m not particularly willing to sacrifice others to get what I want. Myself, yes. But not others.

Was I told protecting others was good? That doesn’t seem problematic to me. I’m okay with that. I’m sacrificing some of my morals to protect as many people as I can.

So, for fun, what are the things that need to be done? Would you mind listing them out and explaining how to do them?

Personally, I’m not the one complaining about people not doing enough. Just hypocrisy, so I want to be fair and give you a shake. I think writing these messages is fine because it won’t take away from other efforts, and it does get under Trump’s skin when people call him a Nazi pedophile. You know, because of all the kids he raped.

This is a silly take. Like, I get the concern, but, like… Why are you here instead of “ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING”? It’s super hypocritical because if you think that’s not an act of resistance and they should do stuff, then what the fuck are you even doing typing on the internet?

If you’re gonna complain, at least post a list of things these people should be doing and how to do them. That way, you’re at least a step above the thing you’re criticizing, lmao.

So, do you then agree that you have no plans to make things better?

I agree, Trump is doing all of this AND killing hundreds of thousands of people. That is why Trump is worse than Democrats. We agree on that.

Do you not know how our candidates are chosen? Like, there is a caucus and primary system that exists that let’s us choose our candidates. My candidates are the same ones pushing for mural aid structures. My candidates are the ones setting up leftist groups. My candidates are filming ICE, dropping off groceries, feeding the hungry, housing the unhoused.

I’m sorry if your elections aren’t like that, but if you get involved in your local politics, you’ll find these slow progress makers that you seem to think don’t exist.

Enabling fascism is still not the same thing as being aligned with fascism. I get that that is maybe a bit too advanced for your black and white worldview, but that is true. I know you want to spout your doctrine or whatever at me, but… There are not enough of the people you think are the only true leftists to do your revolution. It’s not possible without allies, and like it or not, liberals are going to be more aligned with you than you’d like. So, if that bothers you, why do you think that this plan of your of turning away allies will help you with your goals? What’s the plan, Stan?

Moving the goal posts. Again. They would not have killed hundreds of thousands and you know it and refuse to admit it because you are unable to accept you are wrong.

Do you care about political violence or not? Do you care about people or not? Because it looks like you don’t. It looks like you are okay with others dying if it somehow punishes the people you think it should punish, and it doesn’t even do that right. I am sad for you, a performative leftist, because you are so easy to see through.

I find it horrifying that performative people like you would care so little about others, and pretend you care about people, but then defend the deaths of hundreds of thousands because of some petty reason. You must realize how much of a horrible person you sound like.

Buddy… Voting and bureaucracy and legal processes are slow. Revolution is quick. But what safeguards are you proposing and preparing for a revolution?

Because I gotta say, you are saying nothing helpful to anyone. No guides. No groups. No information. You’re just, and I hate to say this, some dumbass on the internet spouting nonsense. Your ramblings do not get you to your goal. Rethink yourself.

We’re talking about Trump right now, and not Bush, even though our forever wars always start under Republicans.

Trump disbanded USAID. That has killed hundreds of thousands around the globe. That, alone, should be the single most obvious difference that you talk about. Like, pretend that there wasn’t a push for a ceasefire in Gaza, something that Kamala talked about constantly, or that there was some reason that Kamala would go to war with Iran. I will strongman this argument to all heck…

No Democrat would EVER DISBAND USAID. None of them. There’s no reason to. And that killed hundreds of thousands on its own. Right?

You’re changing the subject. That’s not stopping the closure of USAID. Please explain how that would stop the closure of USAID under Trump. That is a different issue that I agree should have been done, but that isn’t what I was talking about and you know that.

Like, it is weird that you’re blaming the Democrats under Biden for Trump’s actions. You realize that is, well, dumb. “Why didn’t they guardrail against Trump doing that?” And not “Why did Trump do that?” Do you realize how silly that argument is?

So, do you want to admit that Democrats would kill less people, or not? I get you’re trying to point out these issues as equivalencies, but, like that still would mean that you agree that Democrats would have killed less people because you didn’t point out USAID issues, the one that has killed hundreds of thousands. So, let’s pretend that these are the same (they’re not, Democrats pushed for Epstein files, Newsom and Adams never executive ordered anything like Trump, Democrats are the ones pushing any amount of changes on ICE, even we both agree they’re not enough), that STILL MEANS TRUMP IS KILLING MORE PEOPLE.