When the “woke” mania swept the country in 2020, I took a step back and reevaluated where I stood and why I stood there. To my surprise, I found that I agreed with conservatives and libertarians on a number of issues. I opposed childhood gender transitions, unlawful and divisive DEI mandates, and the excesses of Critical Race Theory. I argued against biological males competing in women’s sports and being housed in women’s prisons. I did so loudly and publicly, losing many friends along the way.

Today, some of those same attorneys I worked with are advocating for my right to marry my fiancée to be stripped away.

I fell for obvious right-wing propaganda and rationalized the hate with reason and logic. Now the hate machine is coming for me and that’s not fair!

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    “I found that while I supported my own rights as a sexual minority, I did not support the rights of other minorities whom I was not apart of”

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      That’s what it is to think like a conservative:

      “I found that while I supported my own rights, I did not support the rights of others whom I was not a part of.”

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    So the tldr here is that a lesbian TERF has discovered that once the rights of others that they were fine with being trampled upon had been stripped away, the people they chose to side with suddenly turned on them.

    Something something frog and scorpion in a river…

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    An exert from this sites “about” page

    In the liberal West, a clear majority of people support LGBT rights. However, many are turned off by extreme rhetoric that supports authoritarian policy proposals. They are alienated by a vocal minority of radical activists who falsely claim to speak for the LGBT community. In this respect, QM stands up for that silent majority against extremists of all persuasions.

    In short: Terfs

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      I opposed childhood gender transitions, unlawful and divisive DEI mandates, and the excesses of Critical Race Theory.

      yeah

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        The DEI and CRT comments are especially telling. This is a person who allowed herself to believe comforting lies - to accept as fact that a societal scapegoat is the source of her woes. ESPECIALLY the comment about critical race theory, which as I understand was never taught in anything below college courses.

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          I refuse to believe it’s not a psyop by some robot pretending to be a person. I don’t want to exist in the world where it’s not a psyop, and you can’t make me.

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    99% of American politics makes sense once you understand that MAGA = Narcissist.

    That’s how black/gay/whatever person ends up MAGA. Their narcissism is stronger than their cultural/racial/whatever identity.

    The choices they make, the way propaganda is able to work on them, the evil shit they can talk themselves into supporting? It’s all fueled by narcissism.

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      they also believe if they are well off enough, whites will seem them as equals, whites only see them as TOKENs at best. i saw some asian tubers that slowly became magaty over covid, albiet quite lazily. they think if they say the same talking points they get more views, add a little mysogyny too.

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        The fuck are you on about? Are you implying white people cannot be gay, lesbian, trans, or a woman?

        You seem to be under the impression that only white men can be racist or misogynist, but if you ever meet people from anywhere in the world, you’ll find that it’s the same everywhere.

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    Now the hate machine is coming for me and that’s not fair!

    “It was fair when the hate machine was coming for other people but it’s not fair when it’s coming for <falsetto>meeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!</falsetto>”

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    The whole affair made something clear: for many on the right, their past tolerance of gay and bi people who aligned with them on a few pet issues was never rooted in principle. It was always about convenience. We were never truly accepted — just temporarily useful. And now that some of us have outlived our political utility, they’re more than happy to throw us to the wolves the moment the opportunity arises.

    I am still incredulous at the existence of Log Cabin (gay male) Republicans, or even Peter Thiel.

    Why on earth would you give any support to an organization dedicated to the destruction of people like you?

    Does your own hatred of minorities and the poor make you willing to risk joining forces with those who are likely to come after you next?

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      “Surely all those other people who tried to beat this carnival games were simple country rubes, whereas I have finally figured out the winning strategy that will surely allow me to beat this definitely not-rigged game!”

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      Exactly. It’s not exactly like the right-wing hide their distain for all people of the LGBT spectra.

      It’s the classic “but I’m one of the good ones” trope. There’s no such thing, just tokens to be used and tossed away.

      No matter how much you try to be a “good one”, you’ll never truly be accepted amongst those who hate your kin. Once you’ve outlived your usefulness, they’ll eat your face just like everyone else.

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      Because Peter Thiel is a billionaire first and a gay man second. He knows that his wealth will insulate him from the consequences of his actions.

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        and he has money to prevent MSM from outing him completely, almost never hear him in the news, and he has paid to silence any criticism of him.

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      Peter Thiel has confidence that his own personal power will keep him safe. Since he’s a sociopath, having homosexuality be illegal actually benefits him because if he gets tired of a relationship he can just out the other man and have them executed.

      It’s not entirely clear to me whether history supports his confidence. But little no-name “activists” like the article author are always going to be destroyed.

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        thiel did defenestrated younger boytoy(not the husband) in florida in 2024, when the model was causing “problems” for thiel.

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      Because class beats race or sexual preference every time. Peter Thiel is rich first, gay second. Kanye is rich first, black second.

      Those billionaires will use any means they can to accumulate power, just ask Gawker about it.

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      Does your own hatred of minorities and the poor make you willing to risk joining forces with those who are likely to come after you next?

      Yes.

      Exactly that.

      Just yes, that is literally exactly how that works.

      This is a very common theme in the production of leopard food.

      Dumb idiot opportunistic greedy traitors, of one sort or another, who cannot comprehend that patriarchichal heteronormative white christian extremist men … are the primary base of their political power, and they demand subjegation of anyone who isn’t that.

      Like, Ben Shapiro falls into this… he’s a Jew, he’s a Zionist, … Ramiswamy is Indian… everyone whose ever been called an Uncle Tom (or I guess the more modern version is Uncle Ruckus from the Boondocks) … all the Trad Wives that within 5 years barely escape with their lives and sanity intact, or sometimes without those things…

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      This may have been explained earlier, apologies for any repetition on my end.

      Internalized hatred is real and is a huge factor in this. Many people, when they feel they are on the ‘other’ side of oppression, easily take on the role of oppressors themselves. They believe they have ‘paid their dues’ and found success, and even feel as though they are even more qualified to judge and weigh the rights and qualifications of those in their previous position. It’s very similar to the mindset of older people who have paid off their student loans and staunchly believe that student loan forgiveness is wrong. They think that since they ‘put the work into it and upheld their end of the bargain’, it somehow diminishes their efforts if those that come after them have an easier path. Our confusion lies in the understanding that this is not the direction that progress exists.

      Another point, which can be separate from the above or exist alongside: it is a simple fact that being a minority in any group does not mean that person is exempt from feeling prejudice or even discrimination towards minorities in other groups and anyone else for that matter. In a world ready to categorize, divide, and split the tiniest hairs to serve that aim, its a small wonder why we see so many hurt people hurting people.

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      They may destroy you, yes. But they will also oppose those unlawful DEI mandates. At the end of the day, is that not what truly matters?

      /s

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      Thiel plays it safe by staying out of the spotlight, and backing conservatives behind the scenes. Plus we never hear conservatives every attacking THIEL for being gay for any long periods of time, because he has the msm wrapped around his fingers. the “closest” was his young model SIDEPIECE being defenestrated in florida in 2024, which barely stayed on the news long.

      trumper gays drank the whole koolaid of the right, they think they are special because they are wealthy or rich.

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      Does your own hatred of minorities and the poor make you willing to risk joining forces with those who are likely to come after you next?

      Yes

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    But I will not stand by while LGBT rights are legislated away.

    coming right after

    I still believe that biological males shouldn’t compete in women’s sports or be housed in women’s prisons.

    might sound silly, but they’re being truthful. They are not standing by while T rights are legislated away, they actively support it.

    Perchance this person would prefer it being LGB instead

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      Anyone who is LGB without the T can suck my LGBTQ+ butthole.

      You’re not an ally. You’re just an asshole.

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      I’ve been settled in monogamy for ages now, so I don’t know if it’s still the case, but I distinctly remember the vibe in the late '90s and early '00s being LG vs BT. Like the “true gays” didn’t want us making them look weird in front of the straights. Resulted in stuff like Gold Star Lesbians.

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        It hasn’t gone away. I’m a cis male, pansexual, married to a Trans enby who’s also pan. We’re poly with relationships outside of our own marriage.

        I assure you that LG vs BT still exists. I’ve had people accuse me of not being honest with my partner (They know both my gfs, and I know both their gf and bf), or that I’m not actually pan because I’m only with “girls” (My partner is AFAB but enby (They/Them, working on getting top surgery), and my gfs are a cis woman and a trans woman (let that part sink in)).

        So because we don’t fit the standard traditional relationship roles, we’re somehow “doing it wrong”.

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      “Drop the T” was always going to end up in everyone experiencing homophobia more viscerally.

      might need a new sub for “selfAwareWolves” for a post like this.

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    When the “woke” mania swept the country in 2020, I took a step back and reevaluated where I stood and why I stood there. To my surprise, I found that I agreed with conservatives and libertarians on a number of issues. I opposed childhood gender transitions, unlawful and divisive DEI mandates, and the excesses of Critical Race Theory. I argued against biological males competing in women’s sports and being housed in women’s prisons. I did so loudly and publicly, losing many friends along the way. My stance wasn’t rooted in hate or fear but in a commitment to reason and fairness. My loyalty was to the truth, not to political tribes. Maintaining my integrity cost me greatly, but I believed it was worth it.

    Hey Reid Newton: you’re a bigot and a complete fucking moron. Anyone that has two functioning braincells figured out within 10 minutes of first hearing it that “critical race theory” was just a euphemism for “the honest history of how America has fucked over every racial minority consistently though its entire history”. If you think that DEI or critical race theory are real problems, you have the critical thinking skills of a brick wall. Fuck this gal for trying to rationalize her betrayal of her own community.

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      100%

      Also the “it wasn’t a fear-based decision, I just rationally opposed all the forced child gender-transitions”. It’s not possible to roll ones eyes hard enough.

      I actually do have empathy for a TERF who’d say, “I uncritically chugged conservative media and become terrified of stories about men ‘transitioning’ as a way to attach women. Now I see that was all lies and I was a fool who never tried putting myself in others’ shoes.”

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          It’s interesting how the English language makes a phrase like “trans women are women” ambiguous about the number of women that each trans woman is… I always assumed “one” but you raise an interesting question.

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            Given the correlation between trans and plurality, the average is probably higher than one… although I think we would not have much trouble finding a trans woman who would enthusiastically assert her lack of personhood.

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              The question itself self-answers with a little bit of thought: reading the typo as-is doesn’t make sense and there’s only one obvious correction, which SalmiakDragon provided. So I read their question as more conversation/chattiness rather than genuine confusion. I was replying in kind with an attempt to riff off of my typo: what if the typo was actually intended? Could we find any meaning to the phrase “attach women”? No, not really.

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      also it was one fucking book that the PR machine blew out of proportion, I read it at the time and i really struggle to remember what was even in it, it was just some essays about the history of race in the US, which have just merged with all my other memories of similar stories

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      CRT is poorly defined; every time I hear it discussed I just think of the immortal words of Bo Burnham: “The backlash to the backlash to the thing that’s just begun.”

      DEI on the other hand is well-defined (if increasingly misused nowadays) and I actually think there are good arguments to disapprove of it. Race really shouldn’t be used as a proxy for diagnosing socioeconomic disadvantage; if a student has experienced adversity, you should use that directly to qualify them for aid or increased preference in admissions.

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        That Funny Feeling hit me like a pallet of bricks to the face when I first heard it. Couldn’t stop sobbing for an hour. Still makes me tear up after so many relistens.

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          Yeah, Inside has some of the best music exploring those unique and, especially for the time, topical, themes that I’ve ever heard.

          I might go listen to it right now…

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      There are a lot of people who have benefited from the battles won by progressives yet they vote for conservatives or even fascists. Because they don’t like that progressives continue the battle and fight for other people that aren’t like them.

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    When the “woke” mania swept the country in 2020, I took a step back and reevaluated where I stood and why I stood there. To my surprise, I found that I agreed with conservatives and libertarians on a number of issues. I opposed childhood gender transitions, unlawful and divisive DEI mandates, and the excesses of Critical Race Theory.

    Didn’t make it very far into the article; I had to stop reading right there. I can’t handle this much ignorance and bigotry. What a fucking clown. 🤡

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      Ask her to describe what any of those mean, and she’ll just mumble a bunch of bullshit about how they’re performing surgeries in school, how DEI is just about hiring black people, and Critical Race Theory is about NASCAR or something.

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      I had to stop here:

      “This is a dangerous game right-wing culture warriors are playing. If Obergefell falls, it won’t just impact same-sex couples. It will set a precedent that fundamental rights can be granted and taken away by the shifting winds of political power. This should concern every American, regardless of their stance on same-sex marriage.”

      Fucking bozo bash

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        We should all know they never stop with “those people” and always pick the next group to attack.

        The fact that so many are willing to throw anyone under the bus for a few political points only proves they aren’t capable of seeing the very clear pattern that just keeps repeating.

        It’s not like we haven’t all heard some variation of Martin Niemöller’s “First They Came” by now but people still keep thinking that if they’re just “one of the good ones” they’ll be left alone.

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      You weren’t missing much by stopping there. I wish I had. She still doesn’t realise that she’s been a useful idiot to them all along.