The two-week temporary ceasefire has done little to quell GOP fears about the war in Iran costing the party seats in November.

Republicans are relieved over Trump’s steps toward reconciliation in Iran — but they worry the measures are too little, too late to save them from a brutal midterm election cycle.

Behind the public celebration by many Republicans of the temporary two-week ceasefire announcement, longtime party operatives continue to warn of a bleak political reality as the cost-of-living concerns around the war including spiking gas prices that are likely to continue for weeks if not longer even if the fragile ceasefire holds.

A person close to the White House, granted anonymity to speak candidly, put it bluntly.

“This war in Iran almost cements the fact that we lose the midterms in November — the Senate and House,” the person said.

  • SabinStargem@lemmy.today
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    14
    ·
    6 hours ago

    I don’t want them to merely lose the midterms. I want Republicans to cease existing. Politically AND physically.

    • droopy4096@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      11 minutes ago

      that kind of verbiage only promotes political division and confrontation. So being precise with what you say does matter. Should dissenting opinions exist? Should there be guardrails AGAINST blatant breaks of law (domestic and international)? Should people be jailed or exterminated for their political views? Who has monopoly on violence? etc. etc. Political demise for republicans would be nice but then take into consideration how very close Mainstream Democrats are to republicans. This is not solved by political extermination of Republicans but by pluralistic government, proportional representation that allows for more nuance and forces compromise… would still need strong and independent judicial branch to hold government to account. Calls for extermination of “other” was always a prerogative of radical extremes, ability to set the framework that prevents any abuse and having a dialogue is what defines “civilized” society

    • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 hour ago

      I agree 100%, and here’s how we can realistically accomplish it:

      First, we have to make everybody understand that the Republican Party is already dead. That was just the larval stage, before they morphed into their final form - MAGA. Republicans don’t exist any more, they are as dead as the Whigs, and should only be referred to in historical, scholarly contexts. ALL Republicans are MAGAs now.

      The next step requires fighting hard enough, viciously enough, that the Dems take back ALL the power, all three branches. As low as they are now, all those things are actually easily within their reach within the next 5-6 years. MAGA is virtuosically incompetent, and are doing their very best to hand over the entire government to the Dems. All the Dems have to do is get out of the way, and accept it.

      Once they’ve accomplished the taking back of the government, America will have to undergo a massive recovery effort, to rebuild the damage that MAGA will leave in its wake, not just in America, but in the places around the world that we have destroyed.

      We can never go back to where we were, and too much institutional knowledge knowledge will be lost, but that presents us with a rare challenge in America, the the opportunity to rebuild our society. We did a terrible job after the Civil War, and now we are dealing with that long festering wound. We either have to finally heal it, or hack off the limb, but we can’t allow it to continue to rot, and poison the rest of our system. That starts with wide-spread investigations into EVERY instance of MAGA corruption, with indictments, prosecutions, and prison sentences.

      It will be absolutely IMPERATIVE to officially declare MAGA to be a genuine National Security Threat, and abolish them, and prohibit them from existing in any form. They launched a violent Insurrection, stole hundreds of classified documents, election manipulation/fraud, war profiteering, market manipulation, insider trading, war crimes, bribery, treason, obstruction of justice, conspiracy, PEDOPHILIA, and much, much more. It is no exaggeration at all to say that they have openly committed numerous high crimes directly in front of the entire world, with absolutely no remorse. They still.our country in a rigged election, and proceeded to wreck the entire world. They aren’t just a threat, they are an ongoing international criminal enterprise, they danger to America and the world is PROVEN.

      As a National Security Threat, we can prohibit them from existing, and arrest anyone who attempts to organize under the MAGA banner. And since Republicans became MAGA, there won’t be any Republicans either. It will be illegal. We will reinforce that with a Federal Educational Curriculum that emphasizes Critical Thinking Skills, and a history curriculum that acknowledges the stains of slavery and the Native American Genocide, and teaches young citizens how to recognize and avoid propaganda and attempts at political recruitment and indoctrination.

      That will require EXTREMELY strong, committed, courageous leadership, which the current MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries does not possess. In fact, it would not be surprising if future investigations discover that both of those weak-ass losers were on the MAGA payroll. We are in unprecedented times, and the fight, and the aftermath, will require unprecedented solutions. Insipid politicians who only want to continue with business as usual need to be replaced with those who are enthusiastic about crushing the treasonous MAGA threat, and rebuilding an America that works for all of us, and not the wealthy.

      There is a LOT more that needs to be done, like enlarging the Supreme Court, and codifying a lot of important government anti-corruption policies and limitations, but this was just about how to get rid of MAGA, and thus, the Republican Party.

  • qevlarr@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    9 hours ago

    Don’t underestimate the Democratic establishment’s ability to run godawful candidates. I think they actually believe they can run even worse candidates when the Republicans are unpopular

    • lennybird@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      9 hours ago

      I also truly hope the uncommitted No Vote / Third Party voters complicit in his election (I think I’ll call them Maga-lite at this point) have learned a thing or two since last election, too.

      Register and Vote Democrat come November. Vote in Dem primaries right now if you want to alter the composition of the Democratic banner.

      • HalfSalesman@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        3 hours ago

        They absolutely have not learned, they might vote dem in greater numbers and we’ll get a blue wave, but they are still going to be fundamentally moronic. The blue wave will be blunted by the in-fighting but even if its not and we also get a dem president in 2028 (we almost certainly will) the US will become increasingly hellish and miserable to live in anyway. There will be only so much a democrat can do

        I intend to vote dem but that’s just self interest now. I can’t mentally invest in the suffering of masses of people that Republican vs Democrat victories will have because there is nothing I can do about it.

        At this point, for your own sanity, I suggest you treat politics like the climate and weather. Which, just like real climate weather is going to get worse, not better. Focus on enjoying what time you have.

    • JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      14 hours ago

      There are fewer of them, but they consistently show up. The other side, however, is capricious and wont act simply to prevent a criminal from taking the wh. I literally dont know which is worse for the country, and that scares me.

  • EndOfLine@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    ·
    1 day ago

    I’ve been seeing these type of headlines of Republican “fear” of losing elections due to the horrible shit they do when they are in power. The money behind Republicans don’t care. It’s built into the plan. Republicans just hunker down, switch to obstructionsm to limit undoing the damage they caused and wait for the voters to get fed up with the lack of change and blame the party in power (not the party that created the situation and is preventing it from changing). Then they find themselves back in power and continue burning the world and push for every more oppression.

    • GardenGeek@europe.pub
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      14 hours ago

      That assumes that the current narcissist in power is even willing to accept that he has lost… given that they seem to be preparing to label everything to the left of MAGA as terrorism and the federal government is currently buying tear gas in bulk, I would put a big question mark on that.

      “Those who fall asleep in a democracy may wake up in a dictatorship.”

    • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      18 hours ago

      Don’t forget all the purity ponies and the low-info that won’t bother to vote for equally stupid reasons.

  • KoboldCoterie@pawb.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    173
    ·
    1 day ago

    If democrats ran on a hard stance of “We will prosecute the fuck out of everyone involved in the current administration”, they’d sweep the midterms. Then if they actually followed through on it, they’d also sweep in 2028, but we all know they won’t do either.

    • grue@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      61
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 day ago

      If they ran on that, I wouldn’t be surprised if the regime arrested them for sedition and thus proved their point even more.

      • MajinBlayze@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        34
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 day ago

        It’s not like they can do that overnight.

        Also, don’t pretend that the Democrats oppose this war on moral grounds. The only criticisms most national Democrats have been able to muster are either that the trump admin has failed to follow appropriate procedure (i.e. not informing Congress, which is a whole tangent alone), or that they are incompetent in their execution of the war, which…

        • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          11
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          18 hours ago

          The Democrats are happier than pigs in shit right now. They get to have their war for their precious fucking Israel while being able to avoid blame for the war.

        • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 day ago

          Also, don’t pretend that the Democrats oppose this war on moral grounds.

          They generally oppose it on economic grounds at least. I’ll take the outcome of “no war” even if I disagree with the reason we get there.

          • MajinBlayze@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            6 hours ago

            You’re not wrong, I do think that falls under criticism of the execution more than anything, and even the likes of schumer are at least verbally pushing for legislation to force it to end. If that comes around, well, better late than never.

            I still doubt the Democrats willingness to engage in any policymaking that would actually make it difficult for the executive to engage in wards like this in the future

      • 8oow3291d@feddit.dk
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        11
        ·
        1 day ago

        Trump is already trying to cheat and misuse the DoJ all he can. It is not like going easy on these criminals will save Democrats.

      • phutatorius@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        1 day ago

        “We will do everything in our power to make sure that the rule of law is upheld and justice is done.”

        • grue@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 day ago

          Even that would get them retaliated against – just look at Senator Mark Kelly.

          Not saying they shouldn’t do it anyway; just highlighting how absolutely evil the regime actually is.

    • BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 day ago

      I don’t have much faith in the Democrats. I’m reading Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States. It’s a great book, and everyone should give it a read. It basically sums up the entire history of America from a Liberal law professor’s point of view.

      … regardless. In terms of taxes, Democrats are largely responsible for increasing taxes on the poor and subsidizing the rich. They at the same time give weak concessions to the lower class, but these are flimsy enough to be overturned the minute Republicans are in charge.

      He summed it up in one sentence:

      In a two-party system, if both parties ignore public opinion, there is no place voters can turn.

      • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        18 hours ago

        In a two-party system, if both parties ignore public opinion, there is no place voters can turn.

        Yup. Combined with a few other things (e.g. gerrymandering, electoral “college”, citizens united) and our election system is basically a fucking scam.

        That is not to say that you should sit on the sidelines during the election, just understand that the game is rigged.

        • BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          16 hours ago

          Honestly, I think voting Republican would be the best course of action to further my preferred Democrat agenda. On the whole, the elections average out to be about 50-50. I don’t understand why, but both parties seem to seek equilibrium.

          Maybe the Democrats will be forced to make more popular policy decisions (i.e., universal healthcare) if they start losing by a landslide. Too many major losses would call into question the integrity of a two party system.

          • megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            ·
            17 hours ago

            The problem is that they wouldn’t see that as a failure due to not adopting a given agenda their base cares about, they’d see it as a loss due to people liking the republican agenda more, and they would then alter their agenda to be closer to the republicans.

    • ceenote@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      15
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      1 day ago

      If Democrats were capable of that sort of backbone, Donald Trump would never have become president. At least, not for a second term.

      • 8oow3291d@feddit.dk
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        10
        ·
        1 day ago

        Ah yes, the classic blame Democrats for Trump. Because Trump voters don’t have agency.

        • some_designer_dude@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          14
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 day ago

          You’re missing the big picture and blaming the right when the problem isn’t right OR left. It’s UP. As in, the rich. Notice how neither side’s elected representatives really seem to give a shit about you?

          • PapaSkwat@lemmy.wtf
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            6
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            1 day ago

            Notice how neither side’s elected representatives really seem to give a shit about you?

            THIS!!! Yet, Lemmys keep on mistakenly thinking that the Dem’s have their backs. lol

        • ceenote@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          16
          arrow-down
          5
          ·
          1 day ago

          Correct: We blame democrats for ignoring their own constituents and embracing the status quo and therefore being able to lose to a stupid dipshit like Trump. The truth hurts, sometimes.

    • PapaSkwat@lemmy.wtf
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      1 day ago

      but we all know they won’t do either.

      Which is why I’ll keep voting third party. I’m not gonna support a party with no spine.

      • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        6 hours ago

        But but but you voted for Trump then! You want Trump to win again! We promise we’re not as bad as the Republicans! Neo-liberals argue much like MAGA does, loaded questions and bad faith.

        • PapaSkwat@lemmy.wtf
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          4 hours ago

          Exactly why I will never reward them with my vote. Unless they pic AOC, cuz I like her.

      • KoboldCoterie@pawb.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        1 day ago

        You do you, it’s your vote obviously. I hope you’re in a safely blue state, though; know that any time the republicans win your state / county / town / whatever, you contributed to that outcome.

        • PapaSkwat@lemmy.wtf
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          1 day ago

          Never gonna hold my nose to vote. Never gonna vote for “lesser” evil. I vote for who I want to win, regardless of odds. As is my American right.

          • KoboldCoterie@pawb.social
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            1 day ago

            Sure. Not arguing against the fact that it’s your right to vote for whomever you want. However, if we look at the most recent US election, there were a lot of principled people holding that same belief either abstaining or declining to vote strategically, and now we have Trump. If you were one of those people, thinking you are not in small part responsible for the current administration is refusal to take responsibility for your own actions. Just like it would have been in small part my responsibility if Harris had won and decided to do what Trump is doing now.

            • PapaSkwat@lemmy.wtf
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              4
              ·
              1 day ago

              there were a lot of principled people holding that same belief either abstaining or declining to vote strategically, and now we have Trump.

              I guess the Democrats should have a good enough candidate to offset that.

              If you were one of those people, thinking you are not in small part responsible for the current administration is refusal to take responsibility for your own actions.

              I guess the Democrats should have a good enough candidate to offset that. I proudly voted third party and will do again in upcoming elections unless the Dems choose AOC to run for president.

              • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                6 hours ago

                You know as well as I do they’d never let anyone left of a neo-liberal actually run for President. They went crazy over Madamni and he was just a mayor candidate.

              • KoboldCoterie@pawb.social
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                3
                ·
                1 day ago

                Again, that’s fine - you’ve got every right to do that. Is Trump closer to what you want in a president than Harris would have been, do you imagine?

                • PapaSkwat@lemmy.wtf
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  arrow-down
                  6
                  ·
                  1 day ago

                  I didn’t vote for either one and they are both equally bad. Yes, let me say that again so you don’t have to try a “gotcha” moment and try to repeat my words back to me. Yes, they are both equally bad. Yes, I think Harris would have done just as badly. Yes, I think both sides suck and in fact, I think they are practically the same.

                  The Democratic party lost to Trump, twice. Twice. That’s on you all, not me. Maybe the party should come up with a better candidate this time around.

                  It’s up the Dem party to inspire people to vote for them. the whole “but, but, but it’s not Trump!” strategy didn’t work. Either time. So are they gonna do better this time? Or are they just gonna write some harshly-worded press releases again?

                  If the Dem party nominates AOC, I’ll vote for them. If not, I’m voting third party. No amount of “gotcha” or “what if” scenarios that you are thinking of throwing at me will change my mind. You can throw all the hitler-nazi-fascist-emperor-pedo-king-wwIII-civilwar shit at me all you want. I don’t like either party and they both suck.

                  AOC or third party. Yep, I’m black and white that way. No, you aren’t going to change my mind. And that’s ok.

      • Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 day ago

        I’m right there with you but until there’s an alternative voting system (like RCV, STV, or STAR or something), a vote for a 3rd party is as good as a vote for the opposition party. It sucks but that’s the price of a ridiculous divided 2 party system. Well, there’s many prices to pay for that actually but that’s one of them…

        • PapaSkwat@lemmy.wtf
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          1 day ago

          But if people keep thinking and what you are saying, then it never happens. Trust me, if everyone would suddenly vote for a third party, shit would. The duopoly wants you to keep being afraid to vote for at third party. Which is why I’ll keep voting third party.

          • Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 day ago

            I mean yeah of course. But look at how many people in the country actually are 3rd party. Like I said if the country wasn’t very clearly and decisively divided into 2 parties it would be different. But the fact is people in the US now are typically either pretty far left or pretty far right. The amount of people in the middle (like truly in the middle) is absolutely miniscule - less than 3% last I checked. If 100% of the 3rd party people voted 3rd party, it wouldn’t amount to much sadly. I would absolutely love for that to change but we are wedged so far into these two parties that it will be a loooong time before that happens.

            Your opposition party would be absolutely thrilled if you voted 3rd party. There is no conspiracy to stop you from doing so. I’d argue the bigger conspiracy is against changing how we vote and how a winner gets chosen as that would make it much easier for a 3rd party candidate to make headway. As it stands, the more people they can get to throw their votes away instead of voting for someone that actually has a chance of winning (unless it’s their party of course) the happier they’ll be.

            I would be so happy to be wrong here but over the years this has only gotten worse and worse, exacerbating the problem and pushing us farther into this hellhole of diametrically opposed political theatre. But at least we are HOT HOT HOT as a country now right?! 🔥🚒 🔥

            • HermitBee@feddit.uk
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              24 hours ago

              But the fact is people in the US now are typically either pretty far left or pretty far right.

              This is interesting. From the outside it looks like you have a lot of far right groups - the Republicans being the biggest example of an organised political presence. The Democrats are centre-right at best, but presumably you’re talking about the people, not the political parties? In which case, surely it’s on the Democrats to move left to meet the people? And if as many people are as far left as you say, that should be simple…

              • Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                18 hours ago

                I’m not going to pretend I’m a political expert but from everything I can tell you are spot on. The right here is moving farther right at a much faster rate than the left is moving left. The other interesting (and depressing) caveat is that people that lean right, at least recently, tend to be much more staunchly right in their beliefs. People that lean left are often times more splintered. Which is why you get people like Bernie Sanders that are outspokenly independent but run as a left Democrat because they have a much better chance of winning if they join up with one of the two parties and they find a good amount of support on the left but virtually none on the right.

                And yes! From the rooftops yes! I agree with you that it’s on the Democrats (or either party really but since the Democrats have ground to make up we’ll go with them) to move the party and meet the voters but so far they absolutely refuse to do so. This is why you are seeing such a high degree of dissatisfaction within the democratic voter base. The party is forcing candidates out that the people in their own party don’t really want, much less people that are undecided. It is truly surprising how out of touch they are with their own voter base. Which stinks because the right is (at least until very recently) very strongly united behind their movement.

            • PapaSkwat@lemmy.wtf
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              1 day ago

              Like I said if the country wasn’t very clearly and decisively divided into 2 parties it would be different.

              Because people like you keep repeating it and people get scared and don’t wanna take the chance.

              Your opposition party would be absolutely thrilled if you voted 3rd party.

              Even if every single person who voted for 3rd party in 2024 voted for Harris, she still would have lost. That’s how big her margin of loss was. Look it up.

              It wasn’t 3rd party voters that destroyed her chances, it was non-voters.

              As it stands, the more people they can get to throw their votes away instead of voting for someone that actually has a chance of winning (unless it’s their party of course) the happier they’ll be.

              Again, because people like you keep saying that and scaring people. Let me piggback on your conspiracy theory: Both major parties actively work to keep third-party candidates from having a real shot.

              And one of the clearest examples is how they teamed up in 1987 to create the Commission on Presidential Debates. They set strict rules that have excluded virtually every third-party candidate from the national stage ever since.

              It’s one of the rare things they publicly agree on: maintaining the two-party lock on the biggest platform in politics.

              Add every time you vote for them, you support them doing that. I refuse.

              • Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                14 hours ago

                Because people like you…

                Ah damn. I thought there was a decent chance at a constructive political discourse. But I see I we’re just skipping straight to finger pointing (which is quite entertaining as all signs point to us being at least ostensibly politically aligned). But you are right. I concede. This is all because of me and evil people like me. You’re 100% right. Surely it has nothing to do with the system that has all of us boxed into nicely manicured corners.

                Just remember the 1st and only rule of political finger pointing in the US. Keep it eye level or lower. Don’t look up.

                • PapaSkwat@lemmy.wtf
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  8 hours ago

                  Surely it has nothing to do with the system that has all of us boxed into nicely manicured corners.

                  That’s totally the reason for most of the problems. I just refuse to stay in those corners.

                  And like I said, even if every single person who voted for 3rd party in 2024 voted for Harris, she still would have lost. That’s how big her margin of loss was.

                  It wasn’t 3rd party voters that destroyed her chances, it was non-voters.

                  Be mad at them, not me.

  • humanspiral@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    1 day ago

    It gets much worse in coming months.

    2027 budget cuts 10% from non-military, requests $600B more permanent military. Adds $200B special funding to rebuild from Iran fiasco.

    Getting a peace deal with Iran with just nuclear and SoH demands will need $100B in commitments to pay Iran.

    No peace deal, just leave, will put GCC allies in Iran/China camp instead of US. Zionazi congress, led by GOP, will push for more Israel gifts. Controlled DNC opposition, Schumer, will get primaried and lose their zionazi purpose.

    Asian colonies will need to get closer to China to have access to oil.

    Giving Europe colonies freedom (NATO exit threats), will worsen US economic perfromance. World in general will move away from oil/NG use, that the US is all in on.

    Best chance for GOP is to impeach Trump/Hegseth.

    You don’t amass 6 bankruptcies by not going all in on a pair of 2s very often.

  • WagnasT@piefed.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    41
    ·
    1 day ago

    It amazes me how many of them are in hard bubbles. I work with tradesmen, some of them are just the worst fucking people. I had one tell me yesterday that at least Hegseth is assertive unlike ‘that black guy that went awol for heart surgery’. I’m convinced absolutely nothing will sway about 25% of the population. It’s psychopathic.

      • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        14
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 day ago

        WTF? Of course they vote, they vote HARD! The Conservative Propaganda Machine is constantly hyping them up to vote against the Liberals and their Woke. That’s why they control all three branches of government. How do you think that happened if they don’t vote?

        Claiming they don’t vote is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever read.

        • P1k1e@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          1 day ago

          Worked with plenty of anti woke guys who never voted in their entire life, and never would, just cuz they live in a major city in Cali. Obviously not applicable everywhere

      • skozzii@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 day ago

        He should just do his mail in voting in advance then offer to take the muppets for a beer on election day.

        There is no way they are making it to the polling stations.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      19
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      1 day ago

      Democrats will take office on Jan 2nd and announce the need to compromise with Moderate Republicans about three days later. They’ll pass enormous bailouts for the tech industry, a marginally increased spending package for ICE and the Pentagon, a massive tax cut plan for middle class people with over $40k in auto loans, the Joe Manchin Memorial Coal Energy Independence Act, and then advance the “Act to Declare Donald Trump a Naughty Boy” which… gosh darnit… we just can’t get it out of committee because we don’t have the votes!

      Nonetheless, Democrats will declare that they outsmarted Trump, by tricking him into signing the “Make Israel Great Again” Act. And we’ll hit a bipartisan consensus on adding antisemites to the concentration camps. Also, Elon Musk will be given a trillion dollars, in a bag, out the back of the Capital Building. Please don’t ask how or why.

      I will be called a Russian bot for predicting this.

      • ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        9 hours ago

        No you’ll be called a Russian bot for the needless bothsiderism you threw out as a completely unrelated response to what you were replying to.

        Like, holy shit dude. When someone points out Republicans doing bad, you don’t always have to jump in with a much longer complaint about Democrats doing shit too. Time and a place.

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          8 hours ago

          needless bothsiderism

          The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.

          ~ Julius Nyerere, a Tanzanian politician, anti-colonial activist, political theorist, and Russian botfarm

          • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            6 hours ago

            This is what these people don’t understand. They’re the same side of the same coin, the other side doesn’t have representation hardly at all. Voting for evil is still evil winning.

    • Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      29
      ·
      1 day ago

      I’m equally worried about the republican voter base. So many of these people will hammer down and vote republican no matter what happens.

      • Frozengyro@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        16
        ·
        1 day ago

        Many of them still think Trump is the greatest leader to ever walk this earth. They see everything terrible he is doing and still praise his actions. It’s insanity

      • Jaysyn@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 day ago

        Yeah, but the pedo GOP have completely lost the independents, a larger cohort than either the GOP or democrats.

  • null@lemmy.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    ·
    1 day ago

    Don’t believe it for a second. This is just like all those articles of people walking out of Trump rallies during the end of the last election.

    MAGA goons are still chugging that Kool-Aid.

  • ChillPenguin@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    15
    ·
    1 day ago

    Can we just stop doing this? It’s exhausting. I just want healthcare. My money to stop blowing people up across the world. And stop fucking with other countries.

    I don’t give a shit what the midterms news is. Go vote. And keep people voting.

  • MrSulu@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    ·
    1 day ago

    Maybe it should be costing them their livelihoods and their freedoms. Throw the bastards in jail.

  • DandomRude@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    1 day ago

    What about the blatant corruption, the open disregard for the law, the inhumane treatment of people, their disastrous policies across all sectors, the fact that this regime not only protects pedophiles but obviously has numerous ones in its own ranks, or any of the countless other crimes committed by these monsters?

    • NABDad@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      22
      ·
      1 day ago

      All that is bad, but you left out the only one that matters:

      Gas prices went up.

      • DandomRude@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        ·
        1 day ago

        That’s just sad. In almost any other democratic country, a government would be forced out of office for any one of these crimes - and those responsible would almost certainly all face criminal charges as well.

        • 8oow3291d@feddit.dk
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          1 day ago

          I think you forgot to watch your mandated daily 3 hours of Fox News. After watching that, I assure you that you will think everything is going great in the USA. Well, except for those brown people causing all the crime.

          • DandomRude@piefed.social
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            1 day ago

            I certainly wouldn’t let that influence me, since I’m fully aware of what FOX News is all about.

            But yes, I see what you mean. Still, I can’t understand how anyone can still believe this crude propaganda, given what’s happening in the U.S. every single day. Anyone who claims to know nothing about it either simply doesn’t want to know or is profiting from it themselves.

            In my opinion, this level of absurdity and criminality cannot even be concealed by the massive propaganda machine at the regime’s disposal - Fox News actually plays a rather minor role in this compared to all the mainstream U.S. social media platforms.

            • 8oow3291d@feddit.dk
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 day ago

              In my opinion, this level of absurdity and criminality cannot even be concealed by the massive propaganda machine at the regime’s disposal

              Trump’s COVID response was a total shit show. And a million other shit shows. Trump got re-elected.

              I would like to live in a world where propaganda did not work. But the propaganda seems pretty powerful.

              • DandomRude@piefed.social
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                10 hours ago

                I’m not saying propaganda doesn’t work. Just that it’s very easy to see through because the lies are so far removed from reality. This reality simply can’t be hidden anymore: social benefits have been slashed, the cost of living is higher than ever, as are gas prices - something that’s particularly noticeable in the U.S. - and so on. Even if you bury your head in the sand and get your information exclusively from channels that are completely brought in line, you’ll find it hard to overlook that this regime does nothing but enrich itself.

                Nevertheless, you are of course right: the only question is whether the propaganda is still sufficient to maintain the quasi-religious status that the MAGA cult ascribes to its leader.

                In short: What the U.S. regime is doing seems to me to indicate that they no longer see any need to go to great lengths to conceal their sinister machinations. That, in turn, seems to me to strongly suggest that they will soon rule by sheer force. With ICE, this regime already has the means to do so, for this obvious secret police has a budget equivalent to the military spending of a medium-sized country; it has a budget that exceeds the combined budgets of all U.S. federal agencies (CIA, FBI, etc.). In my judgment, there can be only one reason for this: the establishment of an autocracy modeled after kleptocracies like today’s Russia.

                But hey, that’s just my opinion, and I’m from Europe - Germany, to be precise -which is why I can’t help but notice many parallels with our own dark history.

                • 8oow3291d@feddit.dk
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  10 hours ago

                  My impression is that the Fox News propaganda works because it makes the viewers want to believe that Republicans are the good guys. It is a psychological trick, brainwashing. The lies being easy to refute is irrelevant - the viewers don’t want them refuted.

                  My impression is that the main tool of Fox is not the factual claims, but the feeling of tribal belonging.