• Zagam@piefed.social
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      9 days ago

      Yeah, no. That green fucker never even had a chance to pull his trigger. Han capped him in the coldest of blood then sauntered out with less bothers than Winnie-the-Pooh with a tummy full of hunny.

      • dalekcaan@feddit.nl
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        9 days ago

        God forbid a character start out as an asshole so he has room for character growth.

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          7 days ago

          What I hate so much about the modern versions is that not only do they try to make him not a bad guy, but they out that stupid scene with Jabba in right after it. Narratively it serves the same purpose as the previous scene and the dialogue is nearly identical. Plus it really cheapens how big of a threat Jabba should be. Han steps on him. Jabba was throwing people into a pit just for shits and giggles. Why would he let someone step on him? Some scenes really should stay deleted.

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        7 days ago

        I know. But back when Lucas first changed it, “Han shot first” was the slogan people used. It’s short, as slogans should be. What else would you use? “Greedo never shot”? “Only Han shot”? Those don’t sound as good, at least to me. “Han shot first” can also mean that Greedo never got to fire his gun, because Han was quicker. So I’ll stick with that.

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          7 days ago

          Han shot only. It’s supposed to show how cold of a bastard Han is. Portraying it as self-defense undercuts that.

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            6 days ago

            I don’t think that’s correct English. And it kind of was self-defense, as Greedo was a bounty hunter for Jabba who didn’t exactly wanted to invite Han for some tea and biscuits.

        • Zagam@piefed.social
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          7 days ago

          I get you. I think my problem with Han Shot First is that it forgives the ret-con and I don’t want to do that. I’d rather be pedantic about it. But I have no hate to people that make the pithy Han Shot First comment, its better than Han shot in self-defense beccause Mos-Eisley is a stand your ground state.

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      9 days ago

      And he was so full of shit when talking about the Kessel run.

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      7 days ago

      No! And the reason I say no is because Greedo didn’t shoot at all! In some versions they both shoot and in some Han shoots first and in some second. In the one I grew up with (VHS box set, face edition) he is the only one to shoot.