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He’s giving away his heart! Such a generous organ donor :)

I’m glad you’re taking your time to answer me, and I think I understand. What you are saying is basically that since Kaya doesn’t look like she is abused it makes sense to think Hasan would shock her, and if he did who cares (me I guess) since she’s loved. Honestly I don’t care about Hasan being an abuser at this point, just about IF in that very moment, that very day, he used a shock on Kaya. As you say “prove this collar doesn’t have shock prongs” is not a good argument for demonstrating Kaya is being abused, but it is a good argument to try to determine if “that very moment was shocking for her”. I can tell that 99% of people accusing him of being a dog abuser are not acting in good faith. But why not think about the possibility of both Hasan loving Kaya AND giving her a shock that time being true? Maybe he meant to give her a smaller shock and regretted it when she cried, realizing the collar was set to a stronger setting than he though (my theory). Maybe he got the shock version cause it was on discount and intended on only using the vibration version but accidentally fucked up (not my theory but funny though). Any of these possibilities would need Hasan to admit he did do it, even if by accident.

Maybe that’s what happened and he thinks he can’t be honest about it because it would only feed the smearers, which I’d understand cause they sound like the same kind of people that would hit you back five times as hard if you accidentally hurt them somehow and again, bad faith. If this is what’s happening then people who want subjective truth and that are not easily manipulated by feelings (at least I think I’m not, I try not to) suffer as a consequence. I WANT REALITY AND REALITY IS… IS… (I’m going to say the N word)

I just don’t like being lied to, and I’m sure that many other will be put off by Hasan and his fans if the fans defend him without even looking at the evidence. It’s setting a loud ass alarm in my brain. Look at this from the view of an outsider, the proof is there but no matter how much it’s put in front of people faces they refuse to acknowledge it, the goalpost moving is (as lots of bad clickbait youtube videos say) insane, some people say the shock didn’t happen, some that it doesn’t matter etc etc. As someone who has never seen the guy, that looks as bad as people trying to defend roach god’s alarm rat, which I don’t know if it happens but knowing roach’s fans it sure did.

I don’t think its completely impossible to prove a negative, I mean, I can’t prove that Jesus Christ doesn’t exist. But I can point at all other gods that are there and say “what are the chances he’s the real one?” It’s not a definitive answer but I think it’s a darn good one. In this case, we got a guy that looks like they reached to something right when the dog complained, then said the dog did it by themselves, then showed a collar that looks like a manipulated shock version. Then he doesn’t show the collar on greater detail. So… “what are the chances he didn’t do it and he’s trying to cover it for whatever reason?” is a darn good argument for me. And I think he ran himself into a corner by not showing the collar better on multiple occasions like I mentioned. As I said before, fans not agreeing on what happened and what to defend doesn’t help him look good.

So I will ask you again, just once more, to take a look at the pictures, not to convince you that Hasan is an abuser or that he eats children or that all he says is not true etc etc. but rather to know the OBJECTIVE TRUTH of what collar he has. Yes, it sounds conspiratorial to say that the collar he had is a shock one without the prongs, but if the latter year told me something is that there’s no conspiracy theory that’s too crazy or stupid to be true. Well, except flat Earthers, fuck those. And if you somehow for some reason DO change your mind about the subject (at most you’ll probably be like me and think he did shock Kaya on accident) you will have the satisfaction of falling into the trap of believing what’s more convenient but then escaping it! I mean, you answered me without getting angry and seemed pretty sincere like a reasonable person should. My only request is for you to give it a shot. Hell I have an old Joplin document stored that I tweaked and exported to PDF then uploaded into some site I found called file.io just for this moment (I don’t know if it’s s good site, don’t yell at me if it’s the UserBenchmark of sharing files), that way you don’t have to do research for something that hurts to even consider. I’ll leave the link here somewhere, if it becomes inaccessible for any reason make me know. I just demand your attention, not because the algorithm demands it since I don’t get paid for this, but because I want to see it, ✨NUANCE✨.

TL:DR; Please don’t be angry and don’t go full Trump supporter on me and ignore all of this cause you don’t believe that it’s true. Help me see the truth. If you did see these collar pics then tell me what is it I’m not seeing myself that proves it’s a vibration only collar and not a shock one without prongs? Tell me and I’ll listen. Please, just refute the hard evidence. I WANT to believe you.

If you still need a reason for me to care so much: Autism.

The video of the incident looks like what people says that happened, looks like he reached his hand somewhere (supposedly the remote) and Kaya complains. It could be a coincidence of course, and it doesn’t help that Hasan doesn’t show the collar immediately after (although understandable, not a realistic demand since he has no reasons, it would be great if he did but in the video you linked there didn’t seem to be anyone accusing Hasan from shocking Kaya, looks like that came later). Because of this we can only speculate.

The debunk video doesn’t debunk anything, he acknowledges that people are looking at his supposedly vibration only collar but he doesn’t acknowledge exactly WHY they’re doing it (aside from right grifter assholes wanting to smear him), he doesn’t actually stop and debunk it. The reason people points at the collar is because it looks just like the vibration version without the prongs. He missed an unrealistic opportunity to proof himself when he did not show the collar when it happened (again, understandable), and he lost a very realistic opportunity in this debunk video by not showing it again but in more detail to prove it’s not a shock version. I mean, he doesn’t call it “modded shock into vibration only collar”, he claims that’s just a vibration collar, nothing else. I can’t stress enough how bad it is that he doesn’t show the collar in more detail, if he wanted to end all of this he would’ve just zoomed the fuck into it and shut everyone up, It’s easier to believe that he’s hiding something that believing he is dumb. It is very suspicious. You can always say he was nervous but he’s probably got plenty of time to plan the debunk.

(This is only speculation you can skip this paragraph) In the video he also claims that Kaya hurt herself. That implies she has a vibration collar on but he didn’t use it, so he can’t really go “I used a collar but it only vibrates” since that would mean he lied, and if he lies then how is anyone supposed to trust him? If he did we’d be in a “alt right moving goalposts” like situation.

I don’t need to see the one loving his dog. I mean “He loves Kaya” is sadly not a valid proof that he didn’t shock her unlike actual pictures of the collar, and three things can be true at the same time:

1. He loves Kaya;
2. He shocked Kaya;
3. Stinky (literally) Asmnogold-like people are using it as an excuse to shit on him and exaggerate on what happened.

And the best way to judge a situation is by keeping it cool. Getting to know Hasan better is sadly not a good way of thinking things calmly and subjectively the same way falling into the ragebait shit right wing grifters upload would not be ideal.

But I’m not here to judge if Hasan is a dog abuser, I’m here ONLY to judge if he shocked her, for my own sanity, because I’m seeing all this evidence pointing out he did it yet people don’t seem to acknowledge it, similar to how right wing nutjobs won’t understand cheeto man is a pedofile rapist despite all of the evidence, it’s like they can’t see the evidence or maybe they do and they don’t care because “the left only wants to shit on him”. The equivalent in this situation would be Hasan fans not caring Kaya got shocked because “the right only wants to shit on him” (which is true, but that doesn’t justify not calling him out on what he did IF he did it), don’t get me wrong, I’m NOT saying shocking a dog so it doesn’t move is on the same level of a super mega pedophile ring, and justifying the former is much, MUCH better than the latter, I’m just trying to get the point across that Trump’s fans will either justify whatever he does or blindly believe everything he says because they’re out of touch fanatics. Maybe they genuinely believe he didn’t diddle the kiddlers. Maybe they just don’t bother to either look at it or to exist in the same reality we do, probably because they like the guy. I don’t want to believe Hasan fans are on the same realm of ignoring reality and evidence because “I like him he would never”. This whole situation feels the same to me. Look at that debunk video, it proofs my point, Hasan glares over the issue and explains people hating him is making stuff up to hate on him, but he never addresses the actual stuff being said on the videos which only makes me think he can’t and only hopes his fans will blindly defend him, then you go and link it as if it does prove something.

But lets give him the benefit of the doubt, what if he uses a modded shock collar so it only shakes. Why not say that? What if he just has a vibration collar that looks EXACTLY like the shock one? Like a knock off or something. Just show the model online, and again, the collar itself closely.

If you read this far, please. I IMPLORE you to look at the videos of the people comparing the pictures on his streams showing the collar with the images on the collars site I linked, don’t just assume that you won’t get anything from it like a Trump supporter wouldn’t look at the Epstein files. Yes, these people probably don’t give a flying FUCK about Kaya, but that’s beyond the point here, the point is if he shocked her. The pics with the collar he showed make it clear (at least to me) it’s then shock version without prongs. They can’t be fake cause they’re taken from his stream and Hasan doesn’t even claim them to be fake, he just doesn’t claim anything, the only thing preventing you from looking at and comparing them would be blind trust.

All I want you to do is compare the collar Hasan shows with the pictures of the collars on the websites and tell me why that is not a shock version with prongs removed. If you don’t want to do it cause you think Hasan is innocent, think of all the alt right nutjobs that won’t look at the Epstein files because Trump is “innocent” so there’s no point (not saying shocking a dog is as bad as mass child rape, just pointing out how fanaticism clouds people’s judgement). Keep your mind open and I will keep mine, but refute the hard evidence, refute it. Don’t change the subject or say things like “Nu uh he loves Kaya”, that’s not evidence, neither is “I like him he would never”.

Hey, I won’t deny right wing grifters will do shady shit to get a left streamer down and that the whole thing is a campaign against him, I want to make clear I’m not one of them, I’m a mere spectator who’s never seen Hassan aside from this drama, so I will ask IN GOOD FAITH because I’m having a hard time wrapping my mind around this so please have some patience.

When the whole collar thing happened there were various clues pointing the collar was a shock one with tape on where the prongs were. There was also a stream in which the controller of either the vibration or shock collar showed up on a table (sorry for not providing links but I’m tired right now, I’ll trust you’ve seen the clips I’m talking about), then there was another clip in which the dog’s collar emitted a light, people argued it was a reflection but reflections don’t stay for multiple frames like that without completely freezing the dog (as far as I know). Then on the pictures we see the collar having a screw only the shock version has.

Shock: https://www.electro-collares.es/collares-de-adiestramiento/e-collar-educator-et-300 Vibration: https://www.electro-collares.es/collares-de-adiestramiento/e-collar-pg-300 https://www.reedog.es/collares-de-adiestramiento/e-collar-pg-300

I would post the pictures myself but I can’t, if you think I’m making shit up I’ll do it but for now I’ll count on you having seen this evidence.

My point is, if Hassan had shown the collar the dog had during the stream none of this discussion would exist, but by be pictures It totally looks like he tried to lie people pretending he was not using a shocking collar, and if that is the case I’m not trusting a person who lies their public like that. If you insist he didn’t then tell me where I’m wrong. Are the pictures fake or edited? Is the collar model different from the ones shown? Is there a fallacy in my logic? etc. From my point of view no one seemed to acknowledge the evidence pictures back then.

Also, there was a lot of goal-posting when defending Hassan while some said he never shocked the dog, some said they did but it didn’t matter. From the point of view of an outsider It looks like fans defending questionable actions from their fav streamer. You can tell me that the dog doesn’t act like they’re being abused and I’ll believe you, but beyond that the point remains. Did Hassan actually shock the dog then lie about it? Trust and transparency is important for me when it comes to judge a stranger.

God forbid someone does a humor

Poke

How, much?

They won’t

Yeah same opinion here, guess they cant make it easy for people to know what they put in their bodies or they might start caring right?

Holy shit

“He just like me fr”

How about ads to get you to NOT buy something, like advertising a FOSS app.

To get your attention. I know cause when I find one of these videos the captions feel like a flashing light telling you something important is happening, it’s worse than youtube’s shitty clickbait because is baked into the video so you can try looking away, but it’s so distracting it genuely feels you’re fighting the video by ignoring them.

They are also pointless. One word at a time doesn’t have any benefit over normal captions, it’s just distraction.

They turned an accessibility feature to an inaccessibility one.

Im not sure reddit is worth that much effort. Meanwhile folks saying stuff reddit likes be like

I prefer being a millionearth since I walk to places.

While I like the intention, doesnt this risk burning the eyes of people arround you? Specially durint night? IR may be invisible but it’s still light.

Play both to always come on top

Based

Someone remove the white paint