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    1. I mean. According to who?

    2. So it sounds like they were being over policed and didn’t really personally know the extent of it because they weren’t deemed criminals and weren’t directly affected?

    3. Okay cool.

    4. I got that figure from someone defending China over it iirc so I’m guessing it’s accurate if you don’t know offhand.

    5. Okay so they stopped it? Does that mean I’m supposed to go back to trusting the government? How do you square that?

    Additionally: if a significant portion of the population was imprisoned, especially systematically by race, held against their will, and people were dying as a result of that, I would say that is the beginnings of a genocide. Just like how America is currently perpetuating Black genocide imo. Even if they didn’t fully commit or succeed, I can’t just go back to trusting that system.


  • How can 3 be anything more than effectively being labor camps? Can you personally or do you know someone personally that attests to whether they had a choice? Whether there were protections in place? Whether these were all fairly deemed “criminals”? What were their crimes? I think I saw someone use the figure 1million? There’s just no way that can be ethical, right?



  • It’s funny how I’m not even talking about Hamas, which I don’t view as much of a state, and more of a militia operation? Ik they’re technically the elected government but?

    I’m talking about large scale world governments specifically. I’m not condemning mostly powerless people struggling for their lives.

    Edit: Hamas isn’t even on my mind because how much of a “power structure” are they? Not to sound insensitive but I assume their capabilities are extremely limited. Death to the IDF, death to nazis. :)




  • I don’t agree with him but ultimately YDI. He didn’t even ban you until you doubled down. Just go post in world lmfao. Or make your own sub. I think your post is fine. Maybe make use of the momentum of a ptb post to make your own comm? Otherwise this post is completely pointless. People have been railing against JordanLund’s moderation since I joined like over a year ago.

    JordanLund is also a ptb. Both things can be true. Send the downvotes. Just stop whining and maybe do something productive like make your own comm, talkin’ about some “i’m gonna escalate this to the admins🤓☝️” shit is incredibly embarrassing lmao.

    Edit: oh hey btw if any of the losers I was arguing with yesterday are wondering, I think I got banned for asserting there was a genocide in china, but idrk. Not terminally online enough to have alts to make my own comm and check stuff like that.

    But for the person who was defending the mistreatment of the Ughyurs as “terrible but not genocide” and is “more like what America does to its POC”… that’s not a defense, and I’m willing to argue that we are indeed committing black genocide in America lmfao.





  • Probably because saying it’s not a genocide is literally just a tankie talking point that got turned into “uhmmm acskually theyre just doing all these humans rights abuses that result in cultural erasure, death, SA, etc. that’s not TECHNICALLY genocide, somehow”

    I mean, are you saying that the forced assimilation, reeducation camps, forced labor, forced sterilization, etc isn’t a genocide?



  • Yes. You are currently advocating for “minority report”-style pre-action.

    I’m saying it sounds like the direct violent conflict between protestors and counter protestors seems to be pretty low, not much higher than any other rate of violent crime I would guess.

    Most of the violence to my understanding was between protestors and police, who reportedly repeatedly used unnecessary force.

    It seems like you’re trying to justify the suppression of protest and the killing of 5 people by the government because there were 2 counter protestor deaths.

    If this were America, and we were communists protesting capitalist rule, and the police were mistreating us and we rose up in violence, would you condemn that? Would you condemn them attacking capitalist counter protestors? I don’t think you would, right? That’s hypocrisy.