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Yuritopiaposadism [none/use name]@hexbear.net to Games@hexbear.netEnglish · 5 months ago

"Another rigged year:" Former FPS pro Shroud responds to Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 getting a Game Awards GOTY nomination over Arc Raiders, says "the world is just not ready for AI in video games"

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"Another rigged year:" Former FPS pro Shroud responds to Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 getting a Game Awards GOTY nomination over Arc Raiders, says "the world is just not ready for AI in video games"

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Yuritopiaposadism [none/use name]@hexbear.net to Games@hexbear.netEnglish · 5 months ago
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He also questions "who the f*** is playing" GOTY nominee Donkey Kong Bananza
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  • Dort_Owl [they/them, any]@hexbear.net
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    What the fuck is Arc Raiders lmao

    The streamer also believes that “sequels have no right to be Game of the Year,” with the exception of “game-changing sequels like Grand Theft Auto 6, Grand Theft Auto 5, Grand Theft Auto 4, the Witcher 4, for example.”

    GTA 6 isn’t even out yet how can it be a game-changer?

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      Honestly, I feel like Expedition 33 didn’t really tread new ground compared to the first 32.

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        Fake fan there are 67 expeditions

    • Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
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      now that part sounds like trolling.

    • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      My brother was just telling me about it last night, he called it a “Resource Extraction Shooter like Deeprock Galactic; get in, get shit, get out.”

      • Dort_Owl [they/them, any]@hexbear.net
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        Sounds kinda fun tbh

        • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          Yeah, not my bag but he’s really enjoying it.

        • LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          Its pretty good? I’m not having nearly as much fun as I did with DRG or Helldivers 2, but its entertaining, runs very very well even on older systems, and has a somewhat decent community.

        • very_poggers_gay [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      • loathsome dongeater@lemmygrad.ml
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        What do you do with the extracted resources?

    • Kefla [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      Arc Raiders is awesome don’t throw shade

      • Dort_Owl [they/them, any]@hexbear.net
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        My bad, I hadn’t heard of it. No hate.

    • LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Not only that, but GTA 4 and 5 weren’t “game changers” either. They were exactly the fuckin same as GTA3 through San Andreas, just prettier.

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        4 was a pretty big tone shift and a lot of gameplay changes compared to the 3D trilogy and psp side-games.

        • LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          It was an update to be sure, but game-changer? Let’s be real.

          • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]@hexbear.net
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            shrug-outta-hecks ride a motorcycle in SA and then try to ride one in IV

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      It’s called game changing because it never comes out and you have to change ro playing a different game

    • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      It’s one of those extraction shooters that are all the rage right now. I would have 0 idea, but there’s a QAA episode about it

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  • Horse {they/them}@lemmygrad.ml
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    “why is an extremely popular rpg nominated over a fps shooter that has been out ten minutes” asks guy that has only ever played fps games shooters

    • Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
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      arc raiders is third-person

      • Horse {they/them}@lemmygrad.ml
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        damn, now i feel foolish

        edit: i fixed it

  • DragonBallZinn [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Always the biggest victim complexes.

    AI bros please fucking get the hint already. No one except other AI bros like you, and we don’t need you and your fancy techslop to “fix” games. Go automate away something people don’t want to do. Have the clankers do our taxes or something, I don’t know. That’s your priority. Not game design.

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    The Media: “Guy who can click on video game character heads really well has a shit take!”

    Me: “Wow, thanks, The Media, I really needed to know!”

    The Media: “You’re welcome. Now please click some ads on our site.”

    Me: “Anything for you, The Media, you are so very very important.”

    • Civility [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      G O O D post

  • Enjoyer_of_Games [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.netM
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    Ah yes, videogames, famous for never having AI in them. History began in 2022. I am very smart.

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      The ghosts in Pac-Man were actually piloted by tiny leprechauns trapped in the arcade cabinet by a witch’s spell. If you beat a secret level they get set free, but in return the player is imprisoned to replace them.

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    waahh i didnt win an award for the video game i didn’t make

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    literally who

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      he was really good at counterstrike years ago
      that’s literally it lol, that’s why his terrible opinion is newsworthy

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    Lol i think thats the streamer that got angry that expedition 33 got a nomination i mention in the other thread

    I hope the france-cool win so he gets mad

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    Further evidence that g*mers must submit to a brain scan before being allowed to speak publicly

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    Arc Raiders is very good. The shitty voices genuinely bring down the experience in a completely needless way though, particularly when the voice work that’s in the game would amount to like 5 people in a sound booth for one day.

    Even with all the anti-AI arguments this site usually has put to one side. No industry awards should not reward laziness, it would be bad for the industry to encourage a practice that is genuinely detrimental to quality in the industry. You can look at this purely from an industry focused self-interested viewpoint, it’s not good for the industry at all.

    As a game Arc Raiders is great. No denying that. It does deserve the numbers it is currently achieving. But Embark need to move away from this AI voice shit. Even on the subreddit which is dominated by people who love the game you still see a roughly even split between idiots that say it doesn’t affect the game and people who agree that the AI voices are shitty.

    This is a real shame because, aside from this decision, the game probably has the best sound design in the last 10 years, in particular the proximity chat feature is the best implemented proximity chat that has ever existed in a game, it goes so far as to add realistic environmental effects to the proximity voice, if you’re in an echo-ey hall the prox voice echoes just like your footsteps or shots will, it’s really neat.

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    Imagine using a single braincell to have a thought or emotion about the GOTY award.

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      What if it was the GOTYE award and it was just won by Gotye every year

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        I think they’d find a way to give it to Hamilton.

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        What if it was the GOATSE award and it was won by the biggest asshole every year

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        Then it’d be just an award we used to know

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      I’m still unclear what the AI voices in it even are, going off what people have been saying about it. It sounds like the actual NPC dialogue was from voice actors, who were also hired to provide samples for a text-to-speech thing for player characters? Or that it’s doing a speech-to-text and then text-to-speech filter process on proximity VOIP? If it’s literally just “it’s using text-to-speech tech on dynamic text that players provide” that’s such a completely unobjectionable thing that I can only imagine the backlash is coming from people who see the buzzword “AI” and immediately think ChatGPT instead of “text-to-speech with a slightly higher quality than it used to have”.

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        The sudden use of AI for literally anything that uses some algorithm is annoying.

        It flattens what is a very diverse field into “ChatBot Slop”. Kinda like suddenly calling every restaurant “Fast Food”

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        you can do a ping in game that makes your character say: “i have a (insert game item here” or “let’s go to (insert game location here)”. from what i understand they trained ai off the hired voice actors, with consent, to voice these lines

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          See that doesn’t sound any different from just having them record a phonemic inventory for a traditional text-to-speech system, it’s just simplifying the process and making it so the text doesn’t need to have a corresponding pronunciation key, and presumably meshing it in a bit better.

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    he’s just racist against fr*nch people, which tbh is fair, but cmon now

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    its rigged how, exactly? what garbage ass game does this dipshit feel is more worthy?

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    We’ll see if people are even still playing Arc Raiders at the end of the month.

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