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  • MoreAmphibians [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    4 months ago

    These brutish Afghan savages devious Asiatic Slavs failed to win the war in Afghanistan Ukraine despite us doing literally everything possible for them. I can’t believe we ever considered these Arabs human considered these Slavs honorary whites. It didn’t help that we were stabbed in the back by the Democrats Donald Trump who undermined all of America’s efforts to win the war for them. This entire war was a mistake unlike the next one At least we didn’t get any American troops killed so we are ready we fight in our next good war against China Russia China.

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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    4 months ago

    Probably a When Prophecy Fails scenario, where they construe that the peace deal is actually a Ukrainian victory, and that

    We can see this in the before/after analysis of Bakhmut, Pokrovsk, etc.

  • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    4 months ago

    “Uh aktually, PUTLER wants to completely genocide Ukrainians from existence and erase Ukraine from our collective memories, so the fact that Ukraine still exists in our hearts means PUTLER can never win.”

  • miz [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    USA does a decades-long covert operation pushing nazis leading up to a coup with Victoria Nuland’s hand-picked officials and the new regime begins ethnic cleansings: good and necessary

    Russia crosses the magic sovereignty line in response: unforgiveable criminal behavior by the troglodytes which cannot be allowed, get me FIFA on the phone

    (meanwhile the USA’s colonial outpost blockades and bombs starving Palestinians in a livestreamed genocide)

    • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      If you bring up the ethnic cleansing people act like you’re insane. It’s not like I have some secret info. It’s so weird. The invasion started with the US and Ukrainian governments saying Russia would invade on a certain day, and then when it wouldn’t happen the Ukranian military would escalate the shelling of the DPR and LPR cities. Finally Russia invaded. I can’t think of any way to see this except they were trying to force Russia to intervene.

      This is exactly what happened, right? I would love to be wrong on this so I could have the normal liberal opinion.

      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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        Yes this is exactly what happened, Russia invaded during active mobilisation of AFU preparing for massive strike at Donbas which would end with high scale ethnic cleansing.

  • Well, heres the “german” chancellor

    ⚡️ 🇩🇪 German Chancellor Friedrich Merz: “If Ukraine falls, Putin will never stop” “We must take 1938 as a historical example”. “We should have realized this in 2014; if Ukraine falls, Putin will never stop”. “In, it was not enough for (Hitler) to get the Sudeten region; similarly, Putin will not stop”. “Those who think he will be satisfied with this should carefully analyze his strategy, documents, and speeches”. “Putin’s goal is to radically change the borders in Europe; he wants to restore the Soviet borders and establish the Soviet Union”. ‏

    So, not good

    • LeninWeave [none/use name, any]@hexbear.net
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      “We must take 1938 as a historical example”

      Jesus fucking Christ remind me again who invaded Czechoslovakia and which countries allowed that to happen?

      “We must do the things Adolf Hitler would have done because we project our own demonic racism onto our enemies” Germans please shut the fuck up forever and balkanize challenge. Literally the only lesson German liberals ever learned from WW2 and the Holocaust is “wow, I bet we can weaponize this so hard against the same people we victimized by doing it and against new groups!” Every German should be begging every person from every former Soviet state for forgiveness at all times, and the country shouldn’t even fucking exist anymore, never mind have a standing army that is growing. If you feel so guilty for the Holocaust (which they don’t, but they pretend to a lot more than they pretend to care about the 27 million Soviets they killed), why don’t you try taking it out on yourselves for once! Fucking hell!

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      4 months ago

      “We must take 1938 as a historical example”

      That so-called “German” nationhood is a world-historic mistake that humanity has collectively failed to correct?

  • ClathrateG [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    4 months ago

    Stabbed in back myth

    They’ve been laying the groundwork with the ‘agent Kraznov shit’, echoing the original myth blaming commies at home for the defeat(how could it be possible the brave ukranians/germans lost? huh, logistics and supply what’s that? more marxist bullshit I bet)

    • Hyper_red [she/her, she/her]@hexbear.netOP
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      I think they’re gonna try blaming Trump, but it won’t work because the second the us actually pulls out some EU countries will as well.

      It might work on the most radical of liberals but I think for the average lib if they see england and France pulling out when America does it works less

      • FunkyStuff [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        They 100% will blame Trump. My dad is totally convinced Trump has been paid off by Russia to abandon Europe, I think that’s gonna be the most common narrative among liberals.

        • Hyper_red [she/her, she/her]@hexbear.netOP
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          I mean what if the US continues support and Ukraine still loses?

          I’m convinced everything trump is doing is because he wants to give half of Ukraine away to Russia so the US gets the other half. But I don’t think the Russians are biting so he isn’t pulling out.

          I think the us might not pull out and Ukraine still loses.

  • GenXen [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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    4 months ago

    They’ll set up an imaginative construct at how Ukraine would have Crimea and Donbas back if only Biden stayed in the general instead of top-cop.

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Liberals will simply concoct a scenario where Ukraine losing is better than winning because of integrity or valor or some other intangible concept. Liberals are champs at losing so they’ll just move on to the next thing they can clutch pearls about.

    I’m sure they’ll find a way to blame leftists on Twitter

  • Owl [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    4 months ago

    Same thing as when Biden pulled out of Afghanistan - a confused, wounded lashing out that lasts for weeks, then is forgotten entirely by the next news cycle.