If that were true, why aren’t men also victims?
Purses are seen too much as gay, its too uphill of a battle. Although the fashion industry has made progress on this front in the form of across the chest bags.
Remember when purses for men were called ‘briefcases’?
Men’s pockets are for putting expensive wallets and keychains in
So? If Big Pant and Big Purse are really in cahoots, Big Pant would make men’s pockets useless as well so that men’s purses would be for putting expensive wallets and keychains in. Why would you leave half the population out of your scam, and the better paid half of the population at that?
Hmm, making a good point there 🤔 big purse need to break gender norms or expand into big shoulder/waist pouch so big trousers can make pocket size equitable
My Ex had a pair of slacks that had “fake pockets” on it. She would complain literally every time she wore them. One day, it dawned on me that nicer pants and coats for men, sometimes had pockets sewed shut loosely to keep them looking nice in the store (i think that’s the reason anyways). So, I asked her if it was sewn shut, and it was. She was mad at me for not telling her sooner.
Unless it has a lining, you should be able to determine whether the pockets are real or fake by checking the inner side.
She, unfortunately, wasn’t that bright.
sometimes had pockets sewed shut loosely to keep them looking nice in the store
That’s exactly why they do that! I used to be a wedding photographer and had to inform the groomsmen about this detail pretty often lol
I just intentionally leave the outer pockets of my suit jackets seen shut. I just use the inner pockets if necessary.
This is, in part, why I got back into sewing. I’ve yet to encounter a garment pattern with miserly pockets, and if I ever do, I’d just modify the pattern piece before cutting the fabric.
Bonus: pants/shorts/skirts now fit both my waist and hips at the same time, I can choose the fabric (no more poly blends!) and also the colour and silhouette (so it matches my tastes, body type, and existing wardrobe, rather than just being “on trend”).
I bought a skirt recently, it had two cute little front pockets. I was excited only to discover they were fake.
One of the main things my wife looks for in pants and clothing is real fucking pockets. Like that even pisses me off when they have that fake pocket stitched into clothing. Like what the actual fuck?
I haven’t gone clothes shopping in about 15 years, and my pants pockets are fucking gone. Since yhen I’ve also started wearing skirts which don’t have pockets at all.
My solution? Belt of Pickets. molle pouches are excellent and can stack on each other. So when my boyfriend wants to go hiking, I can carry both our phones, a water bottle, can of stimulants, rum flask, umbrella, and more just in my pockets. It’s great.
Protip - check out trousers made for rock climbing. Good pockets, full range of motion, tough material that lasts, pretty colours :-)
I was going to suggest hiking pants. Mine have more pockets than I know what to do with.
So cargo pants? I catch grief from my wife and daughters if I wear those.
Tell them to stop bullying your purse pants.
I just don’t care what they think about my cargo pants or shorts. I’m going to wear them anyway.
Similar but not quite. Cargo pants are dorky but hiking pants are cool.
A rose by any other name is still just a slightly different type of cargo pants…
They are generally made from different materials. Cargo pants are heavy and trail pants are generally lighter and can be worn in the heat. They also dry much quicker. If you had to compare them to something you could claim they are closer to 80s parachute pants than the dork pants.
That’s nice. But the materials don’t matter, you could make them out of burlap and they would still be cargo pants. It all about the design.
Today when I emptied my pockets I had 3 zip lock sandwich bags, a roll of soft Velcro, a roll of scratchy Velcro, multiple hair bands, compression gloves, and miscellaneous paper trash I forgot to toss. They weren’t event half full. My kids have started copying me and walking around with their hands in their pockets which I do just because of the joy of having them. I wish all my pants were like my scrubs. Sigh.
Went to a clothes shop in Tenerife.
Unable to speak the lingo, the missus picked up a pair of jeans off a shelf.
“Are these for men or women, I can’t tell?”
I put my hand in the pocket. It stopped about 2cm in.
“These are women’s jeans”
Meanwhile, I can fit a full size Nintendo Switch in my cargo shorts pocket.
I used to sometimes put enture 1,5L bottles into my pockets when I went to the store for a snack and I had no backpack. A candy bar or some crisps in one pocket. A huge bottle in the other. Sure a bit of the bottle was sticking out but like 85% fit inside the pocket
I think there is a market gap ready to be filled right here
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I once read a post by an Etsy clothes-maker complaining that pants with pockets were her worst-selling items. Maybe that’s why?
I think it’s a self sustaining thing. My pants don’t have pockets, so I have a purse. Because I have a purse, I don’t need to have large pocket, so I don’t bother looking for pants with those.
And it looks better without large pocket.
A lady colleague of mine was complaining about women’s clothes and lack of pockets and so I asked why. She told me it disturbs the “pants chi” or how it changes the look I guess? It’s not just pants, it’s shirts and even some jackets with fake pockets.
Have you ever seen the music video for Madonna’s Beautiful Stranger? It’s a tie in with…one of the Austin Powers flicks, I forget which. In it, Mike Meyers goes to a club where Madonna is performing on stage, she’s wearing this sexy form fitting black lace top and this hilariously bad pair of grey slacks that look like Dickie’s work pants, apparently complete with functioning hip pockets that bulge out from her hips like Dumbo ears.
That’s why most commercial women’s pants don’t come with large pockets. To use large internal pockets, the garment has to fit loosely, to reach to the bottom to fish something out you have to be able to fit the width of your fist through the opening, and it’s damn near impossible to make an opening that will open large enough to admit her entire hand with room to spare that will lay flat and flattering on a woman’s hip, not while we’re in our fifth decade of tight pants on women.
If they put tight pants with functional hip pockets on the racks, you’d try them on, look in the mirror, say “oh god no” and leave the store without buying anything.
Women’s sweat pants? They often have similar pockets to men’s sweat pants. Sundresses have a stereotypical response to compliments: Thanks IT HAS POCKETS! It’s not going to happen in jeans or slacks though, because out of “emulate men’s fashion”, “practicality” and “be feminine and pretty” you get to pick any two.
Emulate men’s fashion + practicality = Buy cargo jeans from the men’s department; you’ll get used to the room in the crotch and you’ll never use that little leather thing you’re supposed to clip a tape measure to but you can fit an entire book in each hip pocket.
Emulate men’s fashion + be feminine and pretty = Apple bottom jeans and boots with the fur. The design of women’s work jeans originally had the zipper or buttons at the hip rather than the front, the typical pattern seen today is strong enough for a man, ruined to look good on a woman.
be feminine and pretty + practicality = that sundress WITH POCKETS! or some other such clothing designed specifically for women in mind, which hasn’t been a politically popular idea in living memory at least not in the West.
Tbf, as a woman who both wants pockets and also really does not care for constricting clothing, I would fucking love JNCO type shit to make a comeback (I realize the literal brand still exists but I ain’t paying $150+ for a single pair of jeans).
You could get close to that look by buying a pair of men’s Wrangler relaxed fit cargo jeans 1 waist size larger than you need and then take the waist in 2 inches. For some reason they’ve been making the same style of cargo pant since at least the 2000s, they make that same pattern from ripstop or khaki twill but the fit isn’t as loose as the denim variant. Might not be quite as severe as vintage JNCOs but you’ll have the desired effect.
Just looking in the women’s side of Wrangler’s website, they’re apparently leaning into the “cowboy” aesthetic, including a “cowboy barrel jean” which seems to have two characteristics: 1. formlessly baggy fit below the belt loops though with no utility features whatsoever, and 2. fell seams down the front and back. So in addition to the in and out seams, there’s front and back seams too, which must be tremendously comfy to sit down in.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsh0TfIKhoE
That’s the video and I don’t even see the pockets. Though maybe I’m a weirdo because I find women in functional or baggy clothing sexy, so I was actually hoping it was more obvious like you said (though she’s still hot).
I’m not sure exactly what it is, maybe appreciating the attitude of wanting to dress for comfort and functionality rather than to impress others. I do find the attitude/insecurity behind wanting to get vanity surgeries very unattractive (especially becauase so many of those surgeries put them in the uncanny valley rather than make them look better), so that could be it.
So I say be yourself when picking clothes. If you want pockets, get pockets and then as a bonus you might attract someone who thinks it’s hot that you picked pants that you like instead of what some parts of society tell you you should wear. Though I might be biased lol.
maybe appreciating the attitude of wanting to dress for comfort and functionality rather than to impress others. I do find the attitude/insecurity behind wanting to get vanity surgeries very unattractive (especially becauase so many of those surgeries put them in the uncanny valley rather than make them look better), so that could be it.
Ah yes, wanting pants with pockets that we like is the same as getting plastic surgery. I’m so glad you’ve made sure to let us all know what you find attractive.
If you want pockets, get pockets and then as a bonus you might attract someone who thinks it’s hot that you picked pants that you like instead of what some parts of society tell you you should wear.
Oh goodie, if we pick clothes we like, someone might find us hot?!
How does a preference of one over the other imply that there are no other options?
And just saying that not everyone prefers whatever standards the fashion industry sets. If you want pockets and also want to look hot, some people are into that. I don’t think you have any obligation to look hot if you dgaf about that or even care what I think about it.
the attitude of wanting to dress for comfort and functionality rather than to impress others.
You presented a dichotomy - dress for comfort or dress for others. As if those are the only 2 considerations that women think about when choosing pants.
Ok, well I just meant between those two. And see you edited your original sarcastic reply; the vanity surgeries you addressed in your edit was meant as the extreme opposite of my personal preferences.
All I was trying to say is that not everyone prefers or agrees with the mainstream beauty standards.
You came into a thread where multiple women were discussing the difficulties of finding pants that have deep pockets and decided to tell all of us what makes your penis hard.
I responded to a top-level comment saying Madonna looked bad in those pants because I disagreed with that bit and then rambled a bit about it.
