Thank me later.

I agree with you, wholeheartedly. However, Nate has a lot of influence and no doubt if he thinks it must be done then likely it will.

Less than you think… Not that Nate is not a well-recognised dev in and out of KDE. But you have to know that FLOSS devs are incredibly opinionated and stubborn, even the shy ones that don’t talk much. Many of them started and persist within FLOSS because they have a clear view of what is right and wrong, and it is obvious that this issue is going to rub very many contributors the wrong way big time. In the end, for better or worse, KDE is a flat organisation and the voice and vote of the person who translated the labels on the weather widget counts as much as that of the veteran power dev who wrote KHTML.

Nothing against him personally of course.

Liekwise. I would go as far as considering him a friend. We do disagree on stuff though.

I’ll still be pulling my donations, and if they do decide to not implement it then I’ll be more than happy to resume. At the end of the day I’m powerless to really affect change on their end, albeit trying to voice my opinion in the matter.

Of course! This was never about convincing you otherwise. It was about pointing out that the situations is… complicated and that the opinion of one person does not represent the position of the whole organisation.

You should probably not take the opinion of one developer as the official position of the whole of KDE. KDE has not got an official position on this topic yet because there is still too much up in the air: are these laws going to stick? Will there be a loophole or exemption for FLOSS? Will it be possible of have the thing disabled be default and just be there for product manufacturers to activate in their products sold in the affected regions? Will it even fall to the devs of desktop projects to like ours to implement this? Will it matter at all or is this all just theatre and the user can just input anything, say, 01/01/1901, and be done with it?

But where is this letter coming from? Did kde implement the age verification?

No.

I haven’t seen any confirmation about it.

It hasn’t even been considered.

I think developers can do something about it. They don’t want to, maybe for obvious reasons, and I respect their choice.

Can you point me to the… what? Survey? you are getting this information from? What are we talking here? 90%+ of all FLOSS developers?

I ask because it is usually quite hard to get FLOSS developers to all agree on anything. I am surprised you got a monolithic response to such a controversial topic.

I’m sorry you feel this way, but again you are barking up the wrong tree as we can’t do anything about it… except what you can do too: protest to the people who want to impose this upon us.

Bringing this issue up here or on Discuss is pointless: We know, we are aware, we are against it, we don’t want it, we realise there are ulterior motives from corrupt actors, and we will do what we can to oppose them.

But this, posting to Discuss, complaining about KDE being indifferent here (which it isn’t) is probably the most unproductive thing you could do. You are tying up resources of volunteers who are already on your side. Like you say organising a protest, writing to the powers-that-be, educating your local/state/national representative, all these thing help.

But this just consuming volunteers’ time up in moderating a potential flamewar on a topic that we (and I would argue everybody else here) already knows about.

Originally it was designed to create Lottie animations.

Edit: Which, and to answer the original question, have nothing to do with what Krita does at all.

Misread “Krita” for “Kdenlive”, but to add to @Eldritch@piefed.world comment, Krita and Glaxnimate are VERY different beasts. And Krita’s animation features concentrate on complex cell animation, where each fram is a painting. Glaxnimate, on the other hand is more for logos, line drawings and so on.

Because somebody had already made the app and we have just integrated it into KDE. Also, it can work as a standalone animation app and is used to animate stuff that have nothing to do with Kdenlive. Why would we want to cut it down to a plugin-like thing of Kdenlive?

That’s why we are working Plasma Mobile. But it is far from ready for primetime unfortunately.

Hmmm… I can only see it once…

Please be respectful and constructive. Please see KDE’s Code of Conduct.

I, for one, am not sure what your complaint is about. At least in the launch menu, whatever I type, the search serves up apps first, ready to be run then and there, which makes sense in that context.

And why not? The feature is right there.

If @onlinepersona@programming.dev wants to use it like that, that is their prerogative.

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*Sigh!* Every time. Okay, here goes again: Gwenview, Dolphin, GhostWriter, Arianna, Tokodon, NeoChat, Itinerary, Discover, Amarok, Falkon, …

Oh! No no! Don’t get me wrong! I do not think Linux users are superior to Windows users, just that Linux as a platform is superior because it tends to respect users’ more, protects their privacy, often people developing for Linux tend to think about how to make their software more useful (as opposed to just more profitable), which in turn leads to an overall better platform for users.

It is a superior (as in “better”) choice for the people.

Why ironic? It should be clear by now that Linux is the superior system in nearly every way.

🏅 For best joke in thread 🙄

Correct, to our chagrin. But it is there. KDE developers actually worked on it and implemented it. See the linked video. It is only a few minutes long.