Bei Ikea bekommt man das Zeug auch flaschenweise zur Pflege von Küchenschneidebrettern, das zeigt schon, dass es im Moment nicht als gefährlich eingeschätzt wird. Zur Pflege von Holz, das irgendetwas Wert ist, ist es aber nicht geeignet, da es schmiert und nicht mehr abzubekommen ist.

Because there’s a political interest in keeping health costs down for humans. For animals the market his more “free”. With doctors in the family we just had the vet recommend the drug and then bought the human version for our dogs.

Nicht? Die hat doch schon seit einer Ewigkeit mit den Hufen gescharrt. Oder nur mit dem einem von ihrem Pferdefuß.

Finde jetzt nicht, das Silikonöl so ein wilder Inhaltsstoff ist. Kann man ja für alles benutzen. Außer für Möbel.

Da gibt’s einen Unterschied?

Considering Orbán there might even be some causation. I can imagine that even some of his core voters were appaled by Orbán siding that much with Trump.

So weit käm’s noch. Windeln sind schneller und billiger.

It’s twenty years old. That is retro by now.

Mirror’s Edge was great in that area, though there was hardly any time to take it in - and it fell apart if you managed to do it. Prey (2017) was good too.

Bioshock on the other hand always felt to gamey for me. It basically has levels, not architecture. I think you need a certain openness for surroundings to feel like actual architecture.

Talos Principle looks interesting, but I don’t think I could get into it.

Maybe I should take a second look at it it has been, gosh!, more than ten years!

Thanks! I think I’ll try Industria when it’s on discount. I’ve heard bad things about it, but that’s more or less a good sign in that case. I think I own Chernobylite, but never tried it since I played enough STALKER over the years. Half Life is kind of the opposite of what I’m looking for. There’s no real architecture, the levels are built to serve the gameplay. I think Lorn’s Lure might be similar there. Same goes for Quake Brutalist Jam, but it’s one of my favourite shooters of the recent years. Quake just can’t stay dead.

That’s something! I would have preferred free movement, but I really love clunky old first person puzzle games. Most Cryo games I’ve played had very awful and uninspired puzzles, but an interesting atmosphere.

I only reached the second level, maybe I’ll continue some day.

Interesting, but not really the thing I’m looking for. It’s too surreal, not something you would actually build, or that would work in real life.

I played Quake Brutalist it’s really great. Architecture wise it’s not that interesting for me, though, because it’s all non-functional in the classic 90s FPS style.

NaissanceE looks nice, but It’s not really what I’m looking for since it’s too surreal.

I think third person games like Assassin’s Creed never are quite right, because everything feels like a miniature. The graphics can be perfect, and I still feel like looking at a model.

BioShock was kind of bad with the architecture. Nothing really made sense building-wise. Still a good atmosphere, but nothing that would get me to play it again after all those years. Deus Ex is a bit bland there, too. Cyberpunk is a good tip though. I haven’t tried it yet.

Pretty similar, yes. Especially since the main issue with the Experiment was the leadership.

Some lobby probably was interested in it.

I bought my PS3 11 years ago, used at Game Stop, for under a hundred Euro and picked up almost every game I own at flea markets. So it might be retro now, I guess. It was just old back then.

I just emphasized what the original point was and how my argument was connected to it. You just chose to ignore that.

It is completely beside the point how long it takes exactly to become a offshore scuba diver or a physician. (Where I live you need to have at least a three-year vocational education before you can start commercial diving training at all. I’d estimate it takes you about four to four and a half years all in all. Becoming a doctor takes six.) The point is that both are jobs that are difficult to get into and require specialist training. They are not “unskilled” labour, the kind ob jobs the original argument was about.