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00:00Oh, man. Teenager's diary.
00:05It's not an easy read, is it?
00:07Nope.
00:08We have a DNA match from the window that you smashed.
00:10I'd been in there the previous evening,
00:12seen the silverware.
00:13It was an utterly shameful thing to do.
00:15It's finished, Pete.
00:17She's kicked me out, Jamie.
00:18Can I keep at yours for a bit?
00:19Find a hotel like a normal person.
00:21You might just want to consider something, though.
00:23I know stuff about your boy.
00:25Elliot Hollis, he was about to turn 16.
00:27Two arrests and one for stealing his dad's car.
00:30I think we should prioritize Chris Lowe right now.
00:32He'd used his credit card to visit child abuse websites.
00:35Is there any way that you and Asif can go and stay
00:37for the next few days that Christopher doesn't know about?
00:40Your mum, she's now threatened to go to the police
00:42with evidence of some wrongdoing I've apparently committed.
00:45He abused me mentally, physically, sometimes even sexually.
00:50And that's not a violent man.
00:51I feel like I'm slightly losing the plot.
00:54You're just tired. It just makes everything seem nice.
00:56I wish to apologize to Mr. Carr and his family.
00:59We will be seeking prosecution for any online activity
01:02that seeks to incite violence against Mr. Carr.
01:06Peter Carr.
01:07To Mrs. Carr.
01:18All we do is hide away
01:22All we do is, all we do is hide away
01:27All we do is lie and wait
01:30All we do is, all we do is lie and wait
01:35I've been upside down
01:39I don't wanna be the right way around
01:43Can't find paradise on the ground
01:48Over here!
01:59Over here!
02:03Well, we all mess up, we're all fallible
02:09We've all done things of which we are ashamed
02:12The trick in life, I think
02:15Is knowing which things we should forgive ourselves for and which not
02:19Except I'm not sure it really is that
02:22Suspect is a white male, mid-forties, wearing a navy top and a grey baseball cap
02:26He was last seen walking towards a burly road and the witnesses said he had a knife in his hand
02:30Over!
02:31I think a part of me wonders if I'm just coming to a natural conclusion here
02:35I've been doing this for 28 years
02:39There are other things to do in life
02:44Not like this
02:46So why did you retire?
02:48I didn't retire
02:50I was A19'd
02:51In the cutbacks
02:53The truth is, what I did, what you still do
02:57When you lose it, you realise what a privilege it was
03:00To be able to help people, often at the very worst moment of their lives
03:04Find faith in the world again
03:07Because I genuinely believe that's a big part of what we do
03:10Restore a little shape, a little order
03:13A little meaning to the world
03:15I mean, not so much on traffic duty, but, um
03:25And obviously, naked gun
03:26Obviously naked gun
03:27And midnight run
03:28Oh, man, midnight run
03:30Yeah, definitely
03:31And Fargo, probably on there
03:32In the door and tootin'
03:33Okay, hon
03:35Oxygen's at 100, but his BP and SATs are very low now
03:39Get me four units of red sales
03:42Well
03:43That was a great evening, thank you
03:46Everybody likes to do it again sometime
03:49Yeah, me too
03:52Alright, this is me
04:01Well, anyway
04:02Goodnight, then
04:03Goodnight
04:04Goodnight
04:05Goodnight
04:06Yes, it went very well, and no, a bit of snogging
04:20Right, sorry boss, that's not what I was ringing about
04:22What?
04:23Pete Carr
04:24He's been attacked, outside his office
04:26Stabbed
04:27Oh, no
04:28Oh, no
04:29Well, they say he's gonna be okay, but
04:34No, no
04:49He still had the knife on him when they nicked him
04:51Oh, who was he?
04:52Some local nutjob, links to far-right groups
04:55Got g'd up by all the online paedophile stuff
04:58Oh
04:59So we go after all those fuckers
05:00Absolutely
05:01Absolutely
05:02She's exaggerating
05:14Tim and I were out for about 45 minutes
05:16And Pete just went down the pub
05:18And Chris Lane?
05:19I don't know where Chris went, you'd have to ask him
05:21But you accept you were all out of the house
05:24At various points between 9pm and midnight?
05:27Yes
05:28So why did you lie?
05:29I would have thought that had become blindingly obvious
05:31I thought there was a very good chance that anything I told you would be leaked
05:34And given that my best friend is now in an intensive care unit
05:37Entirely because of you
05:39I think I had pretty good reason to be nervous
05:45Can we move on to your car, Miss Dardis?
05:47Which in fact matches exactly the description of a car that was seen driving erratically
05:52Approximately 12.20am on the morning that Hayley went missing
05:56And how many dark saloons with trailer bars would there be in a holiday area?
06:00We didn't ask for your opinion, Miss Graham
06:02Although she's right
06:03But I suspect even my ex-wife will confirm that I was in the house in bed at 12.20am
06:14How old was your son that New Year's Eve, James?
06:19How old was Elliot?
06:21How old was Elliot?
06:24Fifteen
06:27Actually only a few weeks off
06:28Sixteen I believe
06:29And sadly quite a troubled young man it seems
06:33Already arrested twice for possession of cannabis
06:37Once for ecstasy
06:39And just one month before New Year's Eve 1999
06:42For stealing his dad's car and driving it whilst drunk
06:45Which is why I have to ask you, James
06:49Did Elliot take your car that night?
06:52No
06:53Maybe he came across Hayley
06:55Maybe hitchhiking somewhere, picked her up
06:58Something happened between them
07:00Something went wrong
07:02Elliot's never heard her fly
07:03Maybe it was an accident
07:05The car was seen to be driving erratically
07:07Maybe he was drunk, maybe he knocked her down
07:09It was a dark wet night
07:11But in either instance
07:12You found out
07:13And agreed to drive the body back up to London
07:16To obscure your son's involvement
07:18The idea that I would drive the dead body of a young girl my son had killed to London
07:24Is as absurd as it is abhorrent
07:28Well then can we ask you why when we first interviewed you you referred to your son as a little boy
07:35A turn of phrase
07:37Really?
07:38We think it was deliberate
07:39We think that you didn't want us to even consider the idea that there was effectively another adult in the house that night
07:45And I think I don't want my client answering any more questions about his son
07:49So unless you have any actual evidence rather than shot in the dark theories
07:53I think we're done here
07:56Okay
07:57What do you mean?
08:03What do you mean?
08:04We spoke to Maria Pates
08:08Conscious and talking
08:09Stay strong fella, stay strong
08:13Yeah you too
08:18It was stupid
08:19And I apologise
08:21Case of misguided loyalty
08:23Misguided loyalty to whom?
08:25Jamie
08:27He rang us all after he'd first been interviewed by you and he said he told you that we all stayed in that night
08:37The inference I took was that we should all say the same
08:41Why do you think he wanted you to lie?
08:43Well at first I thought it was because of his profile that he didn't want the press latching onto him
08:49And yeah I was happy to go along with that because I didn't for a nanosecond believe there was any
08:55Darker motive
08:58Except then yesterday
09:01Except then yesterday Pete rang me
09:04Pete Carl
09:07And he told me something about Jamie's son
09:09Told you what?
09:10He said he'd seen Elliot climbing into the house through a first fall window at around two in the morning on New Year's Day
09:22Okay so where are we with Elliot Hollis?
09:37Still looking for him
09:38If all it's worth
09:40I just pulled this off an online employment site which he signed up to in 2007 when he was living in the States with his dad
09:46It details holiday work on a building site in the UK so
09:50Okay
09:51Let's check James Hollis' car
09:53The BMW
09:54I want to see its service history
09:55Maybe speak to the ex again
09:56Check both her bank statements
09:57Insurance companies
09:58I want to know if the car had any body work repairs done in the months immediately after Hayley tied
10:08I just want to say I'm sorry Pete
10:12I was angry and shocked and
10:16But I also know my heart you're a good man
10:20Yeah you've done some silly things we both know that
10:26You're a good man
10:28And I want you to hear that I know that
10:33Basically I think Hayley used a sort of code in her diary
10:39I'm guessing for if her mum read it so she wouldn't know what she was referring to
10:43So first up when she has sex I think she calls it tea
10:48And then and I think this is actually more important
10:50When she says she had some cake I think she's saying she took drugs
10:54So this is just a small selection of the times these words appear
10:57But you can see a really clear pattern
10:59Some great cake at Marley's then went shopping very nice trip
11:02Went clubbing in Portsmouth ate cake up till six
11:05Had tea and cake with age his birthday present to me
11:08Just what I always wanted
11:10And the reason I think this is significant is this reference here
11:14This is dated two days before she disappeared
11:16And here she says she's gonna get us some cake for the new year party
11:22I think this is why she left work early I think Jesus where she was going
11:28Dealer maybe or friend who was selling her some gear
11:31Erm
11:33I mean it might explain how she could have been in the vicinity of the spinny
11:38Which from the pub is the opposite direction to the party
11:41Nice work Fran
11:43Nice work Fran
11:45Okay can we be aised with Hampshire police and local drug dealers
11:49Then and now
11:51But really good work Fran
11:54Thanks guys
11:56Shall we?
11:57Miller
11:58Miller
11:59Hi it's me
12:01Erm
12:02I'm sorry I haven't run before but I just needed some time on my own to think things through
12:08And I wanted to say
12:11That don't believe what you might hear about me from the police
12:16I'm not a bad man
12:18I made some mistakes but I'm not a bad man
12:20So why did you lie Christopher?
12:39I lied erm because from the moment Hayley Reid went missing I've sort of believed that at some point somebody would knock on my door wanting to blame me
12:48Which I believe for a number of reasons none of which include me having anything to do with her death
12:56Erm
12:58In late December 1999
13:01I was in a bad way
13:04Mentally I was in the manic phase I know now of a bipolar episode
13:08Exacerbated by overwork and my personal event
13:12That had profoundly traumatised me
13:15And on New Year's Eve
13:18In addition to me idiotically taking some cocaine
13:21It overwhelmed me
13:23And I became very unwell I think
13:26I ended up
13:28Leaving the house and just walking
13:31Erm
13:32I don't know where
13:34For a couple of hours
13:36And then finally when I returned I was exhausted and I fell asleep almost immediately
13:39And then the next day
13:42News started to filter through about this missing local girl
13:47And because of this personal thing that had happened and I suppose to a degree because of my poor mental health
13:55I became obsessed
13:57That the police would come for me, that a knock on the door was imminent
14:01But it didn't actually come, not that day, nor the next, nor the day after
14:06It didn't come, but
14:08I never stopped waiting for it
14:10So when you finally showed up to us here, Stuart
14:13In my head I went straight back to those first few days after Hayley Reid went missing
14:16I felt the same fear, the same all-consuming panic and yeah, I lied
14:20I lied
14:22About where I was that night
14:24But that is all that I lied about because I swear
14:27I didn't hurt Hayley Reid
14:30I never even met her
14:32And this event that you fed into your paranoia
14:37What was that?
14:38Yeah, so on October the 12th, 1999 I was arrested for credit card payments to online child sex abuse sites
14:49The card was the business one, which meant that I was arrested at the office
14:53And the police told my business partner, Helen
14:56Because I sometimes visited commercial shoots involving children
15:01She then told the board and in January 2000 she told my wife
15:06Two months later, when I was charged, the board sacked me and my wife filed for divorce
15:12So within four months of my arrest
15:16Yeah, I lost, er
15:19I lost everything
15:21Everything I loved
15:24My wife, Laura
15:27And my career
15:29And my...
15:31My beautiful daughter
15:39Yeah
15:41Yeah, my life just pretty much collapsed
15:45But here's the thing
15:47It wasn't me
15:49The credit card payments, I didn't make them
15:52My life had been ruined and I was completely 100% innocent
15:56100% innocent
16:03And do you happen to remember who packed the trailer?
16:06Jesus, you don't think...
16:08Do you?
16:11I always used to pack the bags and...
16:14James always used to put them in the trailer
16:16Okay, and your car, a BMW 3 Series, I believe
16:20Yeah
16:21Do you recall if it sustained any damage over that break?
16:24You think it was a car accident?
16:26Do you?
16:38Mrs. Hollis
16:40He said he'd hit a deer
16:43Your husband?
16:44Yes, my husband, who else?
16:48I wonder if you take a look at these fighters and his floor plan for me
16:56And tell me if you can remember which bedroom you and your husband slept in
17:00Which bedroom your friends slept in
17:03And which your son
17:06No
17:10My car details
17:12And like those of hundreds of other completely innocent people
17:15Were cloned
17:17Of course I protested my innocence, vehemently
17:19I told them, this is crazy
17:21I've never visited these sites
17:22This is absurd
17:23This is a mistake
17:25But I was charged
17:27And then
17:30Then suddenly I was living alone in a depressing flat in Hackton
17:34And my trial date had not been set
17:37I managed to salvage some money from my separation
17:42Then I found a lawyer and we hired a team of investigators
17:45To prove that the sites paid for were never actually visited
17:47They proved that when the payments were made
17:50Allegedly from my work computer
17:52I was abroad
17:53And so in 2003, finally, charges had dropped
17:57And I was granted a record deletion application in 2004
18:02By this time Laura had remarried
18:04And I hadn't seen her or been allowed to see my daughter for three years
18:07I was living in shelters or on the streets
18:11Without access to the medication I needed
18:14The idea of just turning up and persuading them that I hadn't somehow bought my innocence
18:21Yeah, that was beyond me
18:25So I had to try and begin to accept what had happened to me
18:31This awful injustice, this catastrophic unfairness
18:35To try, to try and rebuild a life
18:39You know, which sounds simpler than it actually was
18:42Because I was homeless in and out of temporary accommodation for six more years
18:47Before I...
18:51Before Tim
18:54My friend Tim
18:56He finally tracked me down
18:58And he bought me my first van in 2010
19:01And I began to live again rather than just exist
19:03And then one week, you turn up and you ask a man who has lost everything
19:08Through, well, just simple bad luck
19:11To someone, someone who knows
19:13Who knows what can happen
19:15And you ask him where he was that night
19:20Yeah, so that's why I lied
19:23That
19:25That
19:28James Hollis' ex remembers his son slept in a box room
19:32The only box room in the house has a window that gives out onto a flat roof
19:35Which supports Tim Finch's claim that Pete Carson I'm climbing in at 2am
19:40Exactly
19:42Yeah
19:45Jay Collier
19:47Yeah, she's in an interview at the moment
19:48Can I pass on a message?
19:54Hello, is it Maria?
19:56Oh, yeah
19:58Sorry, I was just having a quick nap
20:00I'm Dr. Walsh
20:02I'm one of the doctors who's been looking after Peter
20:04Oh, right
20:05Yes
20:06How's he doing?
20:16Shit
20:19Do you believe it?
20:20I don't know
20:22Maybe
20:24You speak to the legal firm
20:25I'll try and track down the unit that investigates him
20:27Okay
20:29Gov
20:30What?
20:31Kingsland Nick just rang
20:33Peter Carr's died
20:35Heart attack
20:36No
20:37You can still校閉
20:38Gov
20:39clever
20:43hmm
20:44Is that a
20:49son to be seen?
20:51No
20:53Nein
20:55no
20:58Please, give me like a voice of llamas
20:59Please leave your message after the tone
21:07Mrs. Carr, it's DCI Cassie Stewart
21:11I just wanted to ring and say how
21:15desperately sad I was
21:20to hear about your husband's death
21:29And as his wife comforts their two young sons tonight
21:45I think the death of Mr. Carr raises a number of important questions
21:50Firstly, what new laws, if any, do we need
21:53in order to better restrict the sort of hateful social media campaign
21:58that undoubtedly contributed towards his murder
22:02And secondly, I think we need to ask how problematic it is
22:06that such major criminal investigations as this one
22:10are increasingly being held under such a public gaze
22:14With police so far refusing to confirm whether Peter Carr remained a suspect
22:20The parents of Hayley Reed must be asking themselves the most painful question
22:26Has the killer of their beloved daughter taken the secret of her final moments to his grave?
22:34This is Rohit Khatru outside Bishop
22:42Thanks
22:44I just went out to grab her bag
22:46I didn't forget to turn it off
22:48Dad
22:50I just wanted to say that, you know
22:52I've been thinking about what we were discussing the other day
22:56And I am genuinely sorry about what you're going through
23:00I'm fine
23:02The problems at work or whatever it is personally
23:04My personal life is fine too
23:06My personal life is fine too
23:07Of course
23:08I'll always be there, you know
23:10To give you whatever I can
23:12Whenever you need it
23:14Wow, well thank you so much
23:16It's just that, erm
23:18At the moment I think it would be better for the both of us
23:22If I were to give you a bit of space
23:24So I think it's best if I move in with Jenny for a bit
23:26Right
23:28Anyway, it'll be a rehearsal for us, you know
23:33Rehearsal?
23:35I asked her last night if she'd marry me
23:38She said she would
23:40So I'll probably buy somewhere together next year
23:45Sorry, you mean like moving together because you can't
23:47You can't buy somewhere together, can you?
23:49Because you're the only one with any money
23:51I never thought that we'd fall out about money
24:04I'll give you a call tomorrow
24:08I love you sweetheart
24:14As I miss us as a family
24:18I miss us all being together
24:22I miss you
24:26And I missed you Usha
24:27When you left for your soul mate
24:29Do you remember?
24:34The girls missed you so much
24:35And I'm so sorry for that
24:37For all the mistakes I made
24:39Which I want to put right now
24:41No accent, it's too late
24:42We've moved on
24:43I've moved on
24:45And
24:48You love her, do you?
24:51This
24:52Sal
24:53Yes, I do
24:54And the girls
24:57Surely we owe it to them to ask what they'd like
25:01We?
25:02Surely you can't deny them that
25:04I mean, if they wanted
25:06The chance for us all to be together again
25:09A proper family
25:11You always said the girls came first
25:20But I never meant for anyone to actually do anything
25:23Okay
25:24Can I read what your last post said?
25:31For too long paedophiles, rapists and murderers
25:33Have been treated as if they were the victims
25:35But enough is enough
25:37If the government won't bring back the death penalty for such crimes
25:41Perhaps it's time for honest, law-abiding citizens
25:44To take matters into their own hands
25:46And then you've put a picture of Peter Carr
25:48With his work address
25:50Under the headline monster
25:52But I never said to anyone to kill him
25:54So when you said it was time for people to take matters into their own hands
25:58What did you mean exactly?
26:00What did you mean exactly?
26:05I just wanted a job
26:09I'm 27 and I have a degree
26:11In journalism that's cost me the best part of 50 grand
26:16And I have never had proper paid work in my chosen field
26:20Despite having written hundreds of job applications
26:24So I was just trying to shock
26:26Because that's what you need to do these days
26:31Otherwise no one hears you
26:33No one listens
26:36And if no one listens, what are you?
26:40You're no one
26:46In terms of the IPCC it's a mandatory referral
26:49I don't really have any choice
26:52And their case
26:54The Reid family have reiterated their faith in you
26:57For now
26:59The case remains yours
27:01Thank you
27:13I will just ask the actual fucking question then, please
27:17Look, I've got ten minutes before I'm due back
27:21And I really don't have time for endless dreary euphemisms
27:25You don't have to get so unpleasant Dad
27:26Oh, you think?
27:28It's just that as your father I thought you might already know the answer
27:35I'm sorry
27:38I'm very stressed by all of this
27:41But no
27:43I never hit your mum
27:49Apologies, but I have a two o'clock
27:57And for the avoidance of any doubt
27:59I'm not a psychopathic murderer like that
28:02Just pour the door to when you leave
28:04Love you
28:12Elves
28:22их
28:25If you don't tell me the truth Elliot I can't continue to protect you
28:29if you don't tell me the truth Elliot I can't continue to protect you like you have for the
28:42past 32 years you mean protect me from what exactly I've had a good look at me recently
28:46prison and I will happily do that I will lie for you and I will say that I was driving that night
28:51but you have to tell me the truth I've already told you the truth a million times I don't think
28:55yes I have I was driving I hid something I don't know what and I went out to look for it and I
28:59couldn't find anything that's it no yes because you actually went back that night I what I think
29:04you actually found her and then you hid her you hid her and then you went back to get her a few
29:08nights later the fuck you come on tell me the truth please Elliot it's been 18 years I need to
29:15hear it now I need to hear the truth where was she found oh you don't know where she was found I've
29:22been using since you first called me where was she found tell me where was she found she was buried
29:28in London
29:29what
29:40what
29:45what
29:54what
30:07what
30:08what
30:09it
30:11Wow, wow.
30:16Boss?
30:17Yeah?
30:18Er, so, just got off the phone to Eastling Nick,
30:21which is the nearest one to Midnham.
30:23So they've identified our G as local drug dealer,
30:26nicknamed Gandalf, real name Nigel Farndall.
30:29He's got a 30-year record of drug offences,
30:31so they're gonna pull him up now and bring him straight in.
30:33OK, thank you.
30:36James Hollis is downstairs with his son.
30:41For the past 18 years,
30:57I have believed that my son killed Hayley Reed.
31:04Because he did steal my car.
31:06He was drunk.
31:08And when he got back home at 2 in the morning
31:10and I found him in his room in a terrible state,
31:13he told me that he'd hit something.
31:16He said that he'd got out to see what it was
31:19but couldn't find anything.
31:21And although his gut instinct told him that it was just an animal,
31:25he was also very scared that it might be a person.
31:31which fear grew when the next day news that Hayley Reed was missing
31:36started to filter through.
31:38And the fact they couldn't find her also fitted because the road he was on
31:44was next to the river which had burst its banks following the heavy rain.
31:50Meaning we had to consider the awful possibility that she had been knocked into the water,
31:57washed down the river and out to sea.
32:01And for 18 years, he and I have hidden that dreadful secret and I'm so, so sorry for that.
32:10And then she was found and the nightmare should have been over.
32:15Except, instead of finally believing that he was innocent,
32:25I started to believe that not only Addy hit her,
32:30but he'd actually found her and hidden her
32:34to drive back down a few days later, retrieve the body and bury it in London.
32:42which might seem a terrible thing to believe about your son,
32:48but 18 years of this toxic secret between us and
32:57seeing the consequences of that in everything my son has become
33:02has made my judgment bad.
33:08And how do you know he didn't do exactly what you've described?
33:15Because when I finally found him just a few hours ago
33:18and talked to him properly for the first time since Hayley had been found,
33:22he reminded me that we drove back early on the 2nd
33:28to put him on a flight to Switzerland for a school skiing trip.
33:31He was away for 10 days. There'll be school records.
33:34Could have driven back down there once he got back.
33:37By which time the police and half the world's press were in Middenham,
33:41so I don't think so.
33:43But listen, we're not hiding anymore.
33:46He's here to answer your question, so ask him.
33:50But I think he did just hit a deer that night.
33:59And by me enabling him to not face up to his responsibilities,
34:09he'd have messed up his whole life.
34:14For absolutely no reason at all.
34:16So I'm gonna stay in the van tonight because I want you to have the time.
34:32You need, you know, to absorb everything.
34:35And when might the police know?
34:38Do you think that you're not a suspect anymore?
34:44I don't know.
34:47But if it's worth me saying one more time, you know it wasn't me.
34:51Not Hayley Reed, not the credit card stuff, not anything.
34:56And sometimes we have to, you must know this,
35:02we have to accept that life can be just random and cruel
35:09before being in the blink of an eye just as randomly wonderful.
35:26I'm gonna fuck off, Dad.
35:44Elliot?
35:45I'm gonna fuck off, Dad.
35:56Well, he's right, I'm afraid.
35:58Within five days of her disappearance, Midland was crawling with police.
36:02There were search parties, choppers with cameras, roadblocks.
36:05If she was murdered in Midland, then it was always my belief
36:08that she had to have been moved within a day or so.
36:11Sorry.
36:13They're looking at their records now, but the teacher I just spoke to
36:16remembers the skiing trip well and remembers Elliot being on it
36:19because he was such a pain in the arse.
36:21Right.
36:23And Nigel Farndell's here.
36:25Thanks.
36:27Did you talk to the son?
36:29Uh, briefly.
36:30And?
36:31My sense was he is telling the truth.
36:34Uh, so for now I'll let them both go.
36:40Uh, I'd better speak to this Farndell bloke.
36:44Yeah, I'd better push off.
36:46No, thank you for coming in.
36:48No worries.
36:50Uh, look, I'm probably gonna head back down to Hampshire tomorrow, so...
36:54Right.
36:55But, um, can I, can I call you?
36:57I don't know if this is a good idea right now, John.
37:12I've just got so much, uh, crap on right now that I need to sort out, and...
37:19I'm not sure starting.
37:21But...
37:22It wouldn't be fair on you.
37:27Sorry.
37:28I'll call you then.
37:29I'll call you then.
37:31I'll call you then.
37:33I'll call you then.
37:34OK.
37:35I'll call you then.
37:36I'll call you then.
37:37I'll call you then.
37:38Well, I don't know...
37:40I don't know.
37:59I mean, we all lived together for 10, 11 years.
38:03Mum, we never saw him do anything like, you know,
38:07and the photos, were they even you, or was it make-up, or I don't know?
38:12Help me out here, because I'm struggling.
38:15Well, you're not struggling, Em, or you wouldn't be here.
38:19You wouldn't have driven five hours just to ask.
38:24Listen, I knew I shouldn't have asked for the money.
38:26It was stupid, but it was the first time in nearly 30 years
38:29I felt like I had the upper hand, and I got a little giddy.
38:36Although, for what it's worth, he never did pay the settlement.
38:44These are the letters, from my lawyer to his.
38:52I instructed mine to stop fighting in 2005,
38:55after your father put his hands around my neck at our old house
38:58and threatened to kill me.
39:02Of course, you and Claire never saw stuff.
39:05I did everything I could to keep it from you both,
39:09as did he, for different reasons, obviously.
39:14But that takes its toll, sweetheart, living that lie.
39:19To keep smiling as you told me about all your fun times with him,
39:24the lovely holidays with him,
39:26when I knew what he really was.
39:31It took its toll on me, and in turn, my problems served his deception well.
39:38The photos were genuine, my love.
39:42And you're here now because some part of you,
39:46some subconscious part,
39:48has always known that something was wrong.
39:54And it gives me no pleasure at all to tell you that you were right.
40:06Yes, she came to my house that night.
40:09And that was to buy?
40:11In 2000, it would have been he's, I'd imagine.
40:15You didn't think to mention this to the police at the time?
40:18I had a house full of gear.
40:21I knew I hadn't done anything wrong, so...
40:24But, yeah, I'm sorry. I should have.
40:27Okay.
40:28Do you remember what time she arrived?
40:31Would have been about 20 past 11.
40:36How do you remember so specifically?
40:38Because we chatted a bit, maybe 10 minutes,
40:40and then we left together.
40:42And I went to a party in Alcross,
40:43which is about half an hour away.
40:45And I remember I got there just as Big Ben was chiming.
40:47And when she left, did she say where she was going?
40:51She said straight to her party.
40:54Um, can you...
40:58show me where you were living in 1999?
41:06So, if what he's saying is true,
41:09then to get from the farm deals to the party house
41:12there's absolutely no reason for her to be passing the church
41:15or where Elliot Hollis was spotted driving the car.
41:18Which would seem to suggest James Hollis
41:21is telling the truth,
41:23as was Peter Carr.
41:26Yeah.
41:28As she walked from here to here,
41:30if she encountered anyone,
41:31the more likely would be Chris Lowe or Tim Finch.
41:34And I've just come off the phone to West End Central,
41:37who have detailed records of the credit card investigation into Lowe,
41:41which they themselves now admit, with hindsight, was flawed.
41:47So he didn't just hire good lawyers?
41:49On balance, they think not.
41:50They think he should never have been charged.
41:52Uh, that doesn't mean we eliminate him as a suspect, of course,
41:57but for now I think we should concentrate our fire elsewhere.
41:59And some, um...
42:01slightly better news here.
42:03So, yesterday we got in touch with DVLA
42:05to see if any of our four main suspects
42:07had any endorsements for the days after New Year.
42:11And my thinking was,
42:14you have a dead body in your boot,
42:17you might be driving a little faster than normal.
42:20So here is a copy
42:22of Tim Finch's driving licence endorsements
42:25going back 35 years.
42:26There's four speeding offences on, though,
42:28which is kind of normal.
42:29Except for the date, the second one.
42:35Shit.
42:37The 3rd of January, 2000.
42:39That's the day after he got back to London.
42:42Do you know where he got it?
42:44Not yet, but they're going to go back to us.
42:45But that...
42:47is a tickle.
42:48That's definitely a tickle.
42:56Di Khan.
42:57Yes.
42:58Yep.
42:59Yes, I have.
43:00Yep.
43:01That is so helpful.
43:03Thank you so much.
43:05Ticket was issued at 6.20am on the A405.
43:08Which is where?
43:09Six miles outside of Midnum.
43:11Was he heading to or from?
43:13From.
43:14Timothy Finch, I'm arresting you on suspicion of the murder of Hayley Reid.
43:19You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence if you do not mention something now, which you later rely on in court.
43:24As you've been arrested, we have authority to search your premises under Section 32 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act.
43:31Would you like to get dressed, please?
43:33Yes.
43:34Yes.
43:35Yes.
43:36Yes.
43:37Yes.
43:38Yes.
43:39Yes.
43:40Yes.
43:41Yes.
43:42Yes.
43:43Yes.
43:44Yes.
43:45Yes.
43:46Yes.
43:47Yes.
43:48Yes.
43:49Yes.
43:50Yes.
43:51Yes.
43:52Yes.
43:54Yes.
43:56Yes.
43:57Yes.
43:58Yes.
43:59God bless you.
44:29Why were you on the road out of Midnham, heading to London at 6.20am, the day after you'd returned to London?
44:43Well, I'd left my laptop in the house and drove back down to pick it up.
44:47I left very early because I wanted to be back in time for morning surgery.
44:51And you'd arranged this with the lettings agency?
44:54Yes.
44:55They've made no mention of that.
44:57Well, what do you want me to say? I arranged it.
45:01Who'd you speak to?
45:02I don't remember. It was nearly 20 years ago.
45:07A bloke, I think.
45:08And what, he took you around there, did he? At 6am?
45:13No, he left the key under a flower pot.
45:15Apparently the house was vacant that week and he said to just let myself in.
45:19So why were you speeding?
45:23Well, it had taken longer than I thought to get down there. I was running late.
45:28For the purposes of the interview, DC Collier has entered the room.
45:32Sorry to interrupt, Mum. Can I have a quick word?
45:34Sorry.
45:36Excuse me.
45:38Interview suspended at 8.31.
45:41In his cellar, behind a thousand boxes of junk, we found one of those old, like, money box-type things.
45:52And when we got it open, we found these.
45:54A necklace with hair still attached to the clasp.
45:58A scrunchie.
46:01And a pair of knickers.
46:02A necklace.
46:32You
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