Re: private, protected, readonly, public

From: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 22:08:16 +0000
Subject: Re: private, protected, readonly, public
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Yeah you can take a look at internal functions/classes that operate on objects and see whether the readonly semantics might need to work in some of those cases.

Thanks for the offer!

At 02:59 PM 5/16/2006, Jason Garber wrote:
Hello Andi, Your request for edge condition research is an excellent one. We've just been through a hellish couple weeks of QA failures (at my company) which just *underscore* your point. The last thing any of us needs is a broken PHP. That being said, is there anything I can do to help us find this stuff out? -- Best regards,
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Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 5:41:31 PM, you wrote: AG> Where would readable be enforced? Would it try and prevent getting AG> references to it? Are there any internal functions/classes which need AG> fixing to honor readable? AG> I think these answers would really be helpful. AG> Thanks. AG> Andi AG> At 02:37 PM 5/16/2006, Marcus Boerger wrote:
Hello Andi, that is why most here already switched to "public readable". best regards marcus Tuesday, May 16, 2006, 11:31:14 PM, you wrote:
I can't quite explain it but for me the ability to work-around private with methods which are able to access the private variable, is different than marking a property as read-only but it not being read-only in all semantics. Probably because private variables do often have getters and setters, whereas something which is marked as read-only (like a harddrive) tends to be read-only always.
Andi
At 02:08 PM 5/16/2006, Zeev Suraski wrote:
However, the reason i write this mail is that you said there could be problems. Well this is deply integrated in the handlers and they don't let you out. In other words if this stuff is not working then the whole PHP 5+ object model is broken. Or in other words, if this is
broken alot
of other stuff regarding object handling is already broken.
You're probably right about this one. You can already return a reference to a private variable today and change it. Andi - did you mean something else?
Best regards, Marcus


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