Acid i could handle rn, but mushrooms are out. You can just kinda have fun on acid, but eventually mushrooms make you face things
Acid is streets ahead of mushrooms in terms of intensity, for me. But I know it’s different for everyone.
streets ahead
Pierce, youre supposed to be dead
Acid lasts a lot longer than mushrooms, but for me mushrooms always included a brief bout of severe paranoia. I loved both of them, but now I would fight to avoid having to take either one. I’m just too old – psychedelics are for young, invincible people IMHO.
I don’t know if I’m old but I’ve noticed younger people calling me sir lately and all I can say is it gets better with age. …zero anxiety these days ✌️
In the end dosage is very relevant and of course even more important: set and setting
I do think acid is more homogeneous and easier to dose appropriately though (YMMV) But the length of a trip can make it challenging.
Do heroic doses of either, shrooms for me result in more body load and are more introspective chaotic/mystic. Acid more energetic/clearer/“Neon” wider headspace. But in the end setting is what I think is most important for how the trip plays out (I had my best and worst trip on shrooms).
IF I have like 10-12 hours, I’d take acid over mushrooms any day of the week. So much more predictable, and as someone who has little interest in microdosing, it’s a more controlled experience.
I’ve never had a bad time on acid, but I definitely have with shrooms.
that’s what i love psychadelics, they make you stop running away from yourself. when you set yourself up correctly you can do years of therapy in a single night. sometimes it’s a painful process (mentally speaking ofc) but it’s always worth it, always helping you grow
I guess it depends on the dose. I had good and bad moments on acid, and now I’m too afraid to take acid and have a bad trip, cause I know I should probably get over some stuff before. Mushrooms I have only taken small doses and I just got more enthusiastic in the way I was talking to friends, laughing more probably…
I know this sounds crazy but with LSD taking too little is the problem. Its not for everybody but I like taking enough that my legs get wobbly and I have to lay down with headphones on and just watch the show and have never had issues. I completely understand why someone would feel apprehensive about such an endeavor.
DMT has this reputation of taking a user too far too fast and leaving a person unable to process what happened but in my opinion ( for someone that truly wants to step out of this world ) it’s the best psychedelic because the ego can’t react fast enough to try and stop its temporary demise which is where all the trouble people have with psychedelics come from in my experience ( and it also leaves you in an instant state of slumber so there is no running in the streets naked ).
You take a hit and might have a few seconds before everything in you mind with attachments to the ego dissolves. You may remember your last thought of tring to remember what a tree is or your favorite aunts name before it all goes away and you get confronted by “something”. I don’t know what it is even though I have seen it hundreds of times it’s really not anything that can be understood when you come back but seeing “it” every once in a while somehow makes me happy to be alive
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I love people talk about how/why theyre glad to be alive cause it somehow makes me glad I’m alive too.
Opposite for me. I can handle shrooms but not acid
It’s the opposite for me.
So does acid, at least for me. Haven’t done shrooms though
Oh you’re afraid of yourself? What’s next? Afraid of peanuts?
Nah, I just don’t know where to get drugs.
Search for the dark net bible.
is this the illicit internet version of google is your friend? you can just say you don’t know either.
Darkweb markets get raided or rug-pull regularly.
People don’t recommend specific markets, because they probably won’t exist for long.
Instead, you’ll get recommended to places like dread, so you can find the current ‘least untrusted’ markets yourself.
Not that i stopped, and would absolutely have either if the opportunity ever presented its self again (probably not). I found that the older you get in general just makes it harder since, at least in my experience, you have way more to worry about that eats at you. Closer to death, more health issues, money could be worse than before, wife/husband and possibly kids to worry about. Stupid things i did in my early 20’s would never fly today just because I think things through way more and realize how bad those things were back then lol. Thankfully the few times i was able to do these things were all great experiences despite that, and its most likely to being with good friends who also joined.
damn, its been a few years but i hadn’t considered all that extra baggage weighing down a trip now that i am older.
but i think i am due for it. i think it is healthy to have a nice safe trip in a good environment.
i always feel so refreshed for like… 3 months-ish? after a trip
Also, lsd lasts a LONG time, and it’s easier to find a whole day to fuck off into space when you’re younger. I’ve got a kid, I can’t get 12 minutes of free time at once, let alone 12 hours.
Exactly. Going on tour and dosing for a bunch of days and having a long enough time off to come down and just chill is not possible anymore.
Yeah that’s what’s stopped me…I used to trip the light fantastic, but anymore, the thought of ego death isn’t liberating, and as I’ve gotten older my background anxiety (set) seems to only go in one direction. Kids, House, work, etc… it’s a little late for me to tune out and drop out
Depression is hoping a heroic dose of acid causes ego death and maybe life will be slightly less painful afterwards.
Haha yep. 🥲
do it anyway
Maturing is realizing you’re not mentally stable enough to do acid.
Wisdom is doing it anyway.
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Well… ok… but just maybe…
I’m just too tired and busy. I had 4 tabs of acid in my psychedelic cupboard. Someone gave me more, now I have 7. One of these years I’ll get away and trip my balls off in a forest, but it’s not this year.
Why would you wanna trip balls in the forest? That’s how you become an acid trip for a bear.
You must not have heard of the Electric Forest Festival.
There are some bears, but not that kind.
I have. I figured there’s a lot of folks there. I mean more like by yourself.
Still personally, I wouldn’t. But I also have really bad luck. If it can go wrong for me, it will.
I’ve done both. Day tripping by myself in a hammock looking up at the pines swaying in the breeze, shit, I sat on the ground and just stared at lichen for a long time lmao. There’s nothing like it, incredible. But if I’d run into a bear, I’d have lost my shit lol.
I’d feel much less lackadaisical about it if I lived in grizzly country.
It really depends on the forest but that’s where the best trips can happen.
DMT only takes 15min 🫠
Ugh it’s so hard to break through though… out of 10+ times with n,n- I’ve only broken through a handful of times.
The most intense 15 minutes of my life each time, though…
I once told my buddy/plug about salvia, and in his questionable wisdom he decided that 20x extract was the way to go, because why waste money otherwise. When my turn came to partake, I managed to start inhaling as hard as I could. Not sure what happened after that, because my whole world turned into a cartoon kaleidoscope, and I forgot who the fuck I was and where. I knew that there was probably some extent of my physical being, and did the stereotypical gawking at my hands, and walked around just a bit, none of which helped in any way. About five minutes later I was back, but occasionally had momentary flashbacks to the irreality for a day or so.
Ugh yeeeep I feel you on salvia. I still have some 40x extract. I did it once and I hated it soooo much. I felt so weird, I kept hallucinating, the body load was awful, and I felt like I had flashbacks too hahaha.
n,n-DMT is the opposite of that. The body load is the heaviest of anything I’ve ever done, not even close. It smells like aliens. It tastes like aliens. You need to rip big rips three or four times in a row and hold it in to break through. Your body is SCREAMING at you to stop after the second rip. But if you manage… it’s the most actual legitimate magic thing in the world ever. Legitimately actual magical wonder. All of the jokes people make are true. I saw a color that doesn’t exist in the regular world. I can still see it in my mind and that was like 16 years ago. I don’t have the right crayons to show other people, but I do have a vial full of graham cracker-colored powder I’ve had for ages. I think it’s time to try breaking through again soon.
You sure do talk a lot of sense blue sponge bob
I’m to mentally stable to do acid.
we’ve run into a paradox where nobody should do acid
It’s one of the safest drug experiences though. I love taking it.
Then doing it anyway.
…anymore
Honestly yeah that’s an important act of maturity. I love acid, but I waited until I was ready for it. I haven’t done it in years but it was hugely helpful for my self improvement during a difficult and transitional stage of life. Too early and it may not have gone so well
I started early , I watched people lose their minds permanently, I never stopped and found in old age it is a far more enjoyable experience. I appreciate it like a fine work of art that young me just didn’t understand. I honestly couldn’t imagine what my life would have been like if I couldn’t step away from this world from time to time.
Drugs aren’t for everybody, I don’t recommend them but if you are going to take LSD make sure you have a blast of DMT to go with it. It’s the bomb
I am stable enough but I don’t have the time :(
I’d love to do psychedelics again, but can’t due to medication. Not gonna fuck with bad interactions ever again.
I agree, it isn’t worth the seizure. Even after the the prescription ends, its still to risky to try again IMO.
I’ve never done acid but I did shrooms twice and haven’t had the balls to try again.
The first time was ok, but the second time, come-up anxiety was so intense I spent the entire trip throwing up, shitting my brains out, and having a panic attack. I can’t do that again, but I’m still full of anxiety, so… nope.
Someday id like to try an extract, I’ve heard the mushroom itself is where the anxiety and gastric discomfort comes from, but yeah I’m just not really motivated in case thats wrong.
You might like 4-aco or AMT. Mushies have historically given me horrible tummy problems and hour-long waves of shits, but 4-aco and AMT felt very similar to mushies and did not make my tummy angry at all!
Solid, I’ll keep that in mind, thanks!
If you’re interested in a comfier trip, I hope you’re able to find them someday! I was lucky and just stumbled across them via friend groups. I’ve tried everything basically… my friends all seem to like the 2c chems, but I’ve tried them all and haven’t been a fan. I HATE 25i. Hate hate hate. I spit out immediately. Ptooey.
AMT is very comfy, same with 4aco. I was a bit sad when we came down from those, and usually at the end of a trip, I’m very ready for it to be done. They both just felt like really clean mushy trips with no shitting.
5-MeO-DiPT was the WEIRDEST time I’ve ever had in my life. Insane body load, insane auditory distortion, and my only experience with temporal distortion… we were listening to a song we were extremely familiar with and the song would pitch down, our bodies would become heavy, and time would sloooowww doowwwnnn like the song was being played on a turntable at too low of an RPM. Absolutely insane feelings. I was SO happy it was over when we came down but I was also very happy I had that crazy experience.
Im going to save this but it sounds like those aren’t just various strains of mushies? and idk if id go out of my way to obtain drugs i cant cultivate myself. I like the idea of mushrooms and i have spores and stuff, just not motivated to grow a new batch.
Ive seen extracts of mushies, called “crystals of the gods” which is a dumb name but the only extraction method ive found, and thats what I want to try, because its supposed to completely get rid of the body problems associated with it, though not the enhancement of your natural mood (in my case mostly anxiety)
Im kinda afraid of human-made or refined drugs, tbh. What if i like them?
If I recall correctly, a lot of the gastric stuff is due to chitin in the cell walls, which humans generally can’t digest. Probably also related to the fact that most people eat them dry. I could be entirely repeating bro science, idk.
People have reported making tea with the mushrooms (unlike THC, psilocybin is water-soluble), or soaking them in lemon juice (idea, I think, is that the acidity breaks up the cell walls a bit more) prior to ingestion helps. Don’t trust me, though, look into these independently if it’s of interest.
I’ve heard of the crystals, but iirc there was some question if they’re really psilocybin. You can extract psilocybin into liquid, though. There’s reduced body load and little to no stomach issues or nausea. The method I used for making it is in one of the books by Virginia Haze and K Mandrake - I think the psilocybin chef cookbook, but not positive.
Basically, you soak the shrooms in everclear to get out as much of the psilocybin as you can, then let the everclear evaporate so you’re left with a tiny amount of very concentrated fluid. Just add 1ml to some juice and you’re on your way. Been a while since I did it and I screwed it up a little, but it was way more mellow than eating the raw shrooms while still being effective. I’ve still got the rest of the little vial I made in the freezer, for whenever I’m stable enough to handle it again.
Nawhhh those are not actually psilocybin, so if you’re only looking for mushies, you’d probably not be as into those! All of the things I mentioned are powders you eat, except 25i which is sold as acid but it tastes bad, is a bad feeling, and can harm or kill (unlike acid)
I don’t blame your apprehension! The things I’ve mentioned are once-per-year or once-ever drugs for me. I will only ever do 5-MeO-DiPT again because my current (forever) partner has never tried it and would like to. None of the things I’ve talked about are addictive, but they are man-made. Mephedrone is the most evil man-made chemical. It’s like ecstasy you sniff and it makes you feel REALLY good, for a little while. And then you can just do more. And there’s no hangover! …until you do it a few times. Then it becomes the most fiendy thing in the world, ever. I’ve tried everything and the only problems were alcohol, Xanax (both were not terrible to quit, just a few days of feeling not great and getting bad sleep.) Meth was fine but didn’t me wanna keep doing it. Opiates were okay but maybe just not for me, they felt cool but the only good type I’ve ever tried was smoking actual opium, that smelled awesome and felt nice.
But Mephedrone… the final time I did it, both nostrils were clogged and bloody and dry and I couldn’t breathe out of them and ALL I COULD DO was look at the white pile in front of us and watch my mates take lil toots and salivate, thinking “oh my god I would do ANYTHING to get more of that into me right now”. It was an all-consuming feeling and thought, encompassing my entire existence. Eating it doesn’t work very well and at that time, I hadn’t plugged anything (put it in my bum) or I would have taken a chunk of it and gone to the bathroom. It was THAT fiendy.
I woke up the next day smelling of cat piss (Mephedrone reeks) and was astonished something could make me feel that way. I vowed never to touch it again—I kept that vow.
That was like 15 years ago or so. If someone was like “I have a gram, wanna snort it” I would 100% say yes absolutely in a microsecond. But now I’m old and wiser and know I can’t just have piles around… the other worst part is how cheap it was. Five, ten USD a gram in bulk, and a gram is a LOT, takes you way further than a gram of coke.
Evil, addictive, fiendy shit. Don’t ever do it. But it’s fucking amazing. (I feel like I’m in that scene from Walk Hard the way I talk about it.)
Yeah, thats exactly what i want to avoid, things that are good enough that even without being addictive, i want them. I wont even grow poppies for poppy tea because I’m afraid i will become low-grade addicted to it as a result of simply not being in constant pain for a change (fucked up thing to consider, but true as someone with chronic pain). My mom made me promise to keep her oxy after she passed because it was much harder for me to get pain treatment than it should be, but it just made me throw up (same it did to her, but we assumed it was the cancer), so i gave it to a friend who needed it. I know myself and i -really- like escape. It used to be books, as a kid, but now its all sorts of things. Because i can.
Mostly i want things with low addiction (physical or psychological) risk, ideally also somewhat beneficial, and no or very low chance of bad experience, because my brain does that anyway. Also kinda has to be fairly easy to get without a shady middle-man, because i don’t know people and buying shit on tor isn’t appealing to me at all. The hardest thing I’ve done was extacy cut with meth, and i listened to my druggy ex and boofed it (our slang for bum-hole administration, tho i learned later i should have shoved it in my vagina instead, thats way way better for drug absorption due to the sheer quantity of blood vessels and the moist environment, to the point that it used to he a common medical application in hospital). Honestly, i loved it, and would exist that way forever if i could. And thats the problem. I’m glad i don’t have easy access to it now. Id like to use it again in controlled therapy settings, as long as they’ve got some good beats and highlighters on hand. But as a result of using it, techno gives me anxiety now. Used to really love it. So even in mild ways the best of things can fuck with you.
I don’t really struggle with drugs other than alcohol (and thats a weird one because i just fall out of use, same as weed, after months or years of heavy use), but thats mostly because i don’t use anything else particularly addictive because i don’t trust myself. Actually, because i know what I’d do. I seem to fall out of alcohol use when my mental state improves to the point i don’t need a crutch. But until then, its bad. Ngl. And weed just stops being fun periodically, so sometimes i take years-long breaks even though it’s good for my pain.
Im super interested in drugs, though. Like genuinely id love to try them all with no risk. I used to read bluelight just to imagine how it felt. I want VR to work for me because that feels like a mild trip (makes me hella nauseated, so no dice until holodeck exists). If i ever go terminal, or get old enough to not care how much i fuck up my future, ill be doing all the drugs.
Im glad you’ve come out the other end of it reasonably intact, sounds like :) And thank you for sharing your experiences with me, for my edification :) i genuinely appreciate it. If you want to share more, even about other substances, id be interested in reading it, to live vicariously through you :)
Microdosing is also great. And so cheap/easy with acid.
