Looking for resources that avoid berating people and just simply lay out the data with it’s context from professionals in the field.

I don’t know if I’m changing or the format of constantly pointing out how stupid someone is just gets more views, but it’s getting to be hard to digest. I’m all for learning new things and possible deceptions on claims being made, just without all the sarcasm and personal attacks.

I used to enjoy Thunderf00t, and while his content is probably the same from the beginning I just can’t do that condescending speech for 30mins anymore. My brain just starts to tune it out but I want the information. Professor Dave Explains, is probably borderline for me, Adam Something used to be less energetic with sarcasm in his past videos. Basically anyone that seems to have a personal vendetta with the people involved.

I believe I’ve ran across more positive debunking lately which might be why I want to shift my focus. Some notable mentions: Kyle Hill - Youtube’s Science Scam Crisis (more humorous presentation), acollierastro - harvard & aliens & crackpots: a disambiguation of Avi Loeb (spends most of the time actually talking about history versus attacking Avi Loeb), Fraser Cain - A Big Problem with Modern Science Communication (just an all around kind presenter).

I’m open to any field or subject matter, just wanting creators that aren’t raising their blood pressure while having to use an extremely incredulous negative tone to get their point across. I love to share the more positive videos with others when a conversation comes up and they’ve been sucked into a scam video that’s twisted the narrative. I know if it’s hard for me to watch, then they aren’t going to get more than 2 minutes into a video with that type of approach.

Edit: Thank you everyone for all the awesome recommendations! I’ve added a lot of subscriptions and will make a master-list of all the sources to upload for anyone else looking.

    • Cataphract ( Cataphract@lemmy.ko4abp.com ) OP
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      3 years ago

      Very true, any recommendations that you enjoy? For the most part as I stated it’s useful for certain topics that come up when someone’s discussing some woowoo, it’s hard for them to sit down and go through a whole course when the context of what they’re discussing doesn’t come up. There’s also the problem of being slightly educated in a topic but then falling down a rabbit hole thinking it’s all legit (quantum subject matter seems to be particularly susceptible).

  • ivenoidea ( ivenoidea@programming.dev ) 
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    3 years ago

    Did thunderf00t ever recover from his „the feminazis are destroying the world“, „anti sjw“ bullshit? I remember being linked one of his videos years ago, seeing that bashing women is 90% of his other content and going „well another one for the shitlist“.

    • Blake [he/him] ( Blake@feddit.uk ) 
      7·
      3 years ago

      Kinda, between the iconic hbomberguy video that tore his videos to shreds and his experiences of being on the other side from his new alt-right pals on the subject of Brexit, he had a bit of a rude awakening and seems to have steered away from political content, but he has never acknowledged any wrongdoing or expressed any remorse for his shitty behaviour.

      He likely still holds the exact same opinions as before, but keeps them to himself now. Either way, he isn’t worthy of your support.

    • Cataphract ( Cataphract@lemmy.ko4abp.com ) OPEnglish
      2·
      3 years ago

      I’ve watched that channel in the past, been meaning to check out that latest “capitalism is good” video that’s hit my feed and caused some controversy from what I’ve seen. I’m hoping there’s just context that’s being missed and the video is actually decent.

      • gatelike ( gatelike@feddit.de ) English
        2·
        3 years ago

        yeah I skipped that one for the same reason but I think I’ll give it a watch today to see what her point is. Maybe mixed markets? If she’s arguing for free market neo liberalism crap then she should probably stick to science.

        • dewittlebook ( dewittlebook@lemdro.id ) English
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          3 years ago

          If she’s arguing for … crap then she should probably stick to Science.

          tldr/w: I probably should’ve only doe this bit here and on her being a physicist versus a science communicator

          Humorously enough, she also has a video for that Basically she talks about:

          • Why “doing your own research” should be poked at

          * Topics she doesn’t have a PhD in and has been told she shouldn’t talk about

          * On being a physicist versus a science communicator

          • Main video points
            1. When not to do your own research (When there isn’t enough research) 2.(?) Reasonable expectations (Why she doesn’t talk about UFO’s, a plug for support to do a video on ‘Experts’, limits of Google/internet, what is relevant for understanding? )
            2. Be honest with yourself (Acknowledge what you dont understand, erroneous mental short cut example)
          1. Acknowledge biases

          Rest of video not as relevant to your point

          Do your own research. But do it right. [Video] Now where’s that bot at…?

  • 👍Maximum Derek👍 ( Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de ) English
    5·
    3 years ago

    Kyle Hill and acollierastro are two of my favs.

    I also like Dr Becky. She mostly just likes to educate on astrophysics, but whenever the media overblows something in the field she’s usually there to tell you what the data actually means.

    Similarly I wouldn’t class it as a debunk channel, but any time there’s a major engineering disaster Practical Engineering usually does a video of what happened mechanically.

    And I’d encourage people to go through some of Physics Girls old videos. She got totally sidelined by covid induced ME/CFS but her older content is great.

  • Chahk ( chahk@beehaw.org ) 
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    3 years ago

    Looking for resources that avoid berating people and just simply lay out the data with it’s context from professionals in the field.

    I find that oftentimes just the act of laying out the data is construed as berating. No matter how positively you try to present the material, to some people it will seem like a personal attack against their “sincerely held beliefs”.

  • Blake [he/him] ( Blake@feddit.uk ) 
    2·
    3 years ago

    This kind of content doesn’t really succeed because it drives less engagement than it would if it was really impassioned and angry, and that means less money. So even creators that start out balanced, neutral and considered are incentivised to become more algorithm friendly by encouraging angry comments on their videos

    • blackbrook ( blackbrook@mander.xyz ) 
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      3 years ago

      There is also a large audience for outage of any sort. If you have a message of “people who believe X are idiots” you’ve got a big audience: all the people who disagree with X love to hear you elaborate all the ways the X people are idiots and thereby feel smart and smug and righteous.

      The audience of X believers who might listen to a message of “hey, here’s why X isn’t quite right” is a harder sell. For one thing most people are not looking to hear how some view of theirs is wrong, and even worse, in this polarized environment all the people making hay off of “X believers are idiots” are helping inoculate the X believers against that message.

  • wizardhag ( wizardhag@lemmy.ml ) 
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    3 years ago

    A little late, but a channel I like is potholer54. He usually talks about COVID or climate change nowadays, and back in the heyday of youtube atheism he did a lot of debunking of young earth creationists and evolution deniers. He has a strong science focus, discussing papers and tracking down peoples’ sources and whatnot.