Feddit.onlineMusk says Tesla is moving Full Self-Driving to a monthly subscription
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UnderpantsWeevilFSD, which starts at $99 per month, is key to the future of the company as Musk tries to establish Tesla as a leader in autonomous mobility. The one-time price was $8,000.
Real “Heads-I-Win” / “Tails-You-Lose” game Tesla drivers are playing. $8k is around 6.5 years of monthly payments. Not exactly a great deal, especially when Tesla heavily subsidies existing owners to trade up to a newer model every 2-4 years in order to boost their own sales figures. But the phrase “starts at” is the financial equivalent of a hand grenade. You know its going to blow up on you. Just a matter of when.
And with the dubious safety of these new fully-autonomous vehicles…
Higher Crash Rates in Autonomous Vehicles (AVs) vs. Traditional Cars
AVs in California experienced 26.3 crashes per million miles in 2022—dramatically higher than the 0.7 per million miles for human-driven vehicles.
One has to wonder what this will do to car insurance rates in the near future, as more of these vehicles hit the road.
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I’ve never seen this before, it’s fantastic lol
vaultdweller013It’s fucken vintage. Pretty sure it was being passed around IRC chats, but I ain’t quite old enough to know.
How the fuck did I never see this. I was gaming on BBS’s and 300baud modems.
CrackhappyYeah Usenet then IRC. Never saw it on a BBS.
I don’t think there were gifs back then when I was on BBS’s, that was more just a reference to how long I’ve been using the internet and pre internet things.
I didn’t spend a lot of time on usenet though, but I did spend some.
More IRC than usenet
It was probably bouncing around as in jokes manually passed thing back in the day. Then sometime in the early 00s late 90s it broke containment and spread memetically on forums, at least that seems to be what happened from what I can find.
You’ve … Seen the original right
It already was? I mean, you could also choose to just buy it but both options were available. Title should be “Tesla removes option to purchase FSD”.
WashedupcynicSo now people can pay for the privilege of being killed when the AI does crazy shit, causes and accident, and they burn to death because the analog door release is buried somewhere nearly impossible to access.
I was driving a model Y the other day and it thought the car in front had its left rear turning indicator on when it didn’t. That coupled with my daughter saying that lane keeping is really scary where multiple lanes merge and the lines are all over the place.
Of course they are. Nobody is buying their cars, so they have to figure out how to exploit the current dummies, er…marks…um, losers…customers, yeah, that’s the word.
This is an admission that HW4 will not be sufficient. If you bought FSD, they will have to upgrade your hardware whenifer they declare it “autonomous”.
It also limits the refunds they may have to issue in California.
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I would think they first would have to actually release the feature.
And I would think that before releasing the feature they’d have to get it to stop constantly crashibg cars into large stationary objects.
It’s probably vibe-coded.
You misunderstand. The subscription is to get permission to drive your own car. Self driving slop is going to be the default.
Surely you jest.
Apparently we live in a reality in which you don’t need to have a product in order make it shit anymore.
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Star citizen is very playable right now, which is more than can be said for the full self driving
Yeah, it is an incredible vitual storefront. So many ways to spend money.
With no requirement to do so, even the largest ship you can earn ingame with about 500 hours of gameplay
You need to sign up for a 3 year subscription to be put on the waiting list for the product that will be ready in 5 years after you subscribed. If you don’t renew after the first 3 years you lose your spot and need to reapply.
yeah the self driving has not been approved anywhere yet. this is “supervised” only
this just the first step of burying the failure
Anyone who still thinks he’s a genius should be mocked mercilessly.
To be fair, he’s a genius in continuesly scamming people without losing their faith in him. Although it’s less geniusness and more stupidity of other people. Yeah he’s not a genius, he’s a scammer. Not even an artist at it.
Surprised it didn’t happen sooner.
And on that note, I would absolutely download a car.
Well, I wouldn’t download this car.
Kinda a crazy move considering that they were charging 8k for “fsd” before, and are moving to a monthly subscription of a hundred bucks a month.
You would have to own your Tesla for six and a half years for them to make the same return. My guess is that the hundred dollars a month is just the initial price which will drastically inflate over time. That or they are just going to raise prices by 8k and still charge you a subscription cost anyways….
Or you get more people buying in. 8k up front looks a lot different than a couple hundred a month.
I’d rather just pay it once and have it.
Like video games. Just let me pay money for the whole game.
Rational people don’t buy Teslas.
the problem is it’s non-transferrable, so if you want to sell the car (or totaled it) before ~6 years you would lose money compared to paying $100/month.
Oh that’s just another nail in the coffin of me EVER buying a Tesla
If it was transferable like idk, any other option you get on your car, the 8k price tag could at least be offset by like 20-50% by the car having better value when selling it on. This way it’s just… Wtf. Imagine paying 8k and then selling the car after a year and the next person has to pay 8k too.
100 bucks a month starting to seem reasonable in comparison indeed
What? Purchasing a premium package for your car vanishes when it transfers to a new owner?
If you buy a premium trim, it doesn’t vanish if you resell the car.
the hardware is there regardless of trim. you are paying for the right to use the hardware already in the car you purchased.
Wouldn’t the car sell for more because of the extra features?
The feature is tied to the account, not the car 💡
At one point they were charging $15k for it, and Elmo was claiming it would go to $100k in its final form. You know, when it actually fucking worked. Which it never will.
They seem to be dropping the price until they find a price point where a decent percentage of their users will actually pay for the service.
If the system was genuinely self driving, as in the vehicle could run unattended, it would be worth having.
I bought it for my Tesla (back when I had it) for $2500. Shitty decision, but I believed the hype. Can’t wait to get my $5 check from the class action suit.
Except for they don’t have the hardware to do that reliably since musk goes for cheapest parts possible and removes redundancy
Nah, I suspect nobody was buying the feature. They may increase the price if they get it to truly work, but I suspect a hundred odd a month is what most people are willing to pay.
Yes, I suspect this is a chas flow thing. Their sales are dropping. The feature is there, sonit costs nothing to give it. See if they can milk a few dollars. Even if it makes less money on the long term, it might stop the share price crashing in the medium or short term.
If you buy a Tesla you deserve a Tesla.
Then first create the full self driving that you have lied about already existing for the past decade
Tesla: subscribe to your own demise.
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I feel so dumb over here having paid off my current car and giving no subscription money to anyone to use all the features of my car. I’m a fool!
Gonna be lower soon. LoL 😂
How is this fool a billionaire? Oh, yeah. Peter Thiel using him as a distraction.
and putin found another useful idiot.
Another Musk business model that’ll die… But not before he grifts stupid shareholders…
Well you know, you gotta phase these things out before sweeping them under the rug.
If you cut it off cold turkey everyone will be like “I did Natzi that one coming”.
I do like shorting Tesla, it’s expensive, but it just feels good
You short Tesla stock? Have you ever timed it and made a profit on it? I know there’s been pockets that it could have been profitable to you. But seems to me that you’d just be feeding money to actual shareholders.
I buy very cheap, very long dated puts and am happy to pay the premium
Didn’t need another reason not to buy a Tesla but I’ve got one.
Can you opt to pay imaginary money for it since it is an imaginary feature?
No thanks, Nazi.
Wasn’t it already? Fucking Tesla is so damn confusing on how the hell this shit works. Every 2 months it changes, price changes, how the use it changes, and if they even get it. God I’m so glad I wouldn’t ever buy one of those shit boxes.
I was in my friend’s Tesla the other day, and she couldn’t figure out which button to push to get the glove box open. There is no handle. Just a screen with a GUI that has menus with a glove box button.
I was like wtf. I’m so pissed about my old car with too many buttons for the air conditioner. That was the most infuriating looking car I’ve ever seen. Guess she got it before the Nazi salute for tax write off.
Unfortunately that’s not exclusive to Tesla.
Fools and their money are soon parted - over and over again if they’re Tesla fanboys.
Oh jeez, enshittification is so fast with today’s companies…
$99 dollars a month to kill yourself. Shit, I can commit suicide for free.
You have got to be a goddamn moron to buy a Tesla.
Good maybe people will stop using it then. What am I saying they bought a Tesla of course they’re going to keep using it.
“Oh think I’ll treat myself to a month of gamble driving”
So if your subscription runs out while driving does the Tesla just stop on the road or does it immediately drive back to the dealership till you pay it?
It’s only for the “Full Self driving” feature. It would likely just disable the feature.
Burst into flames
Facts!
Leave the World Behind is a documentary.
Scumfuck needs to hit his trillion dollar payout somehow
i love taking a shit
Poor middle class people will start taking out car loans to buy Tesla. Just like the iPhone phenomena
It’s a weird move because Tesla was receiving nearly 7 years of $99/month up front if people gave it to them, while being as slow as they want in reaching their promises. So, either they are worried that they will be forced to give refunds for underwhelming service, or they are planning massive monthly fee increases. It’s probably the latter to their credit. Robotaxi fee would be a normal high fee.
Who is using self-driving mode? And why? When you add price of a self-driving car + (now) subscription, it is cheaper to use some public transport, bus/train/taxi/uber/..
I am, but not on a Tesla.
its people would buy supreme branded items.
Kind of makes sense. If I had a Tesla, I might consider grabbing it for a month if I were going on a road trip to reduce the driving load.
It also lets people test it every once in a while to see if it actually works. Based on a ride I had in one a few months ago, it still has quite a bit to go.
I would be most concerned about them increasing prices over time. $100/month isn’t too bad, but I’m sure it will increase to well over double that over the next few years.
Guy fully mummified in plaster in a hospital bed groaning: “well I wanted to test it out to see if it works for a 100 bucks…”