This one is way more zealous than the other one, refer to the other comment for an explanation of the connection.
It isn’t that it’s mean, you dummy, it’s that the underlying values of this joke are in fact fascist in their orientation and, because people like you exist, it is an effective way to promote those values. If you need an example, think of the jokes about these people that reference inbreeding with the presumption that it is correlated with poor intellectual and cognitive ability, and therefore validates the idea that these moral qualities are related to genetic qualities (there is also a classist element in this joke given where they are oriented in the US geographically). Even if there is science to suggest that this is potentially a real consequence of inbreeding, I hope I don’t have to explain even more clearly to you why it is problematic to naturalize the correlation between genetics and the danger one group poses to society at large.
You’ve tried to lecture me on language, but you don’t seem to know what any of these words mean, which is why you are so vulnerable to the manipulation that they promote. You think every fascist is just what, dumber than you? You don’t think that maybe there’s a way to “trick” you into subscribing to the same values they do, especially if you already subscribe to liberalism wholeheartedly as what appears to be the case here? You don’t get to choose the consequences of your actions, you can only inform yourself so that you can make better decisions in the future. If the effect of this joke is that it reproduces the idea that there are physical markers for moral depravity, then you either have to admit that you want it to have that function or change the way you understand these terms and the context they exist in. Some fascists choose to be fascists, most of them just don’t think about it.
You think I’m a liberal…? Wow. Damn I’m glad I’m sitting down, that one hurt.
This is the sort of thinking that gets people to sit peacefully ont heir couch because violence is inherently fascist, and to use violence against the state would be morally repugnant because of the message it would send about how to resolve our differences.
How about, we kill the people hurting others for personal gain, and then we have a nice long talk about why we shouldn’t kill people in polite society, which those others intentionally destroyed?
Oh look, another Lemmy “leftist,” who thinks systemic oppression is just when people are mean about how you look. We all know you’re a lib dude, nobody else is so self-righteous about aggrieved entitlement to bigotry. You want to feel like a good person without actually understanding what that means and putting the work into changing.
If you can’t tell the difference between anti-fascism and pacifism, you better stay the fuck on your couch, we don’t want you out here. I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have a story about some smug fuck lib man showing up to events and saying some edgelord power-fantasy shit before saying some bigoted shit. You aren’t a fucking socialist if you subscribe to liberal constructions of human value, you dense chud.
Yes, I know better than you, get the fuck over it. You can’t even grasp how these forms of oppression are intersectional and you have the vibes of a socialist boyfriend who doesn’t do the dishes. I’m sure you’re very satisfied identifying every problem you have with the system from your limited perspective, knowledge, and empathy.
Won’t be responding to anything else other than your reading list on anti-fascist scholarship or writing related to these topics.
This one is way more zealous than the other one, refer to the other comment for an explanation of the connection.
It isn’t that it’s mean, you dummy, it’s that the underlying values of this joke are in fact fascist in their orientation and, because people like you exist, it is an effective way to promote those values. If you need an example, think of the jokes about these people that reference inbreeding with the presumption that it is correlated with poor intellectual and cognitive ability, and therefore validates the idea that these moral qualities are related to genetic qualities (there is also a classist element in this joke given where they are oriented in the US geographically). Even if there is science to suggest that this is potentially a real consequence of inbreeding, I hope I don’t have to explain even more clearly to you why it is problematic to naturalize the correlation between genetics and the danger one group poses to society at large.
You’ve tried to lecture me on language, but you don’t seem to know what any of these words mean, which is why you are so vulnerable to the manipulation that they promote. You think every fascist is just what, dumber than you? You don’t think that maybe there’s a way to “trick” you into subscribing to the same values they do, especially if you already subscribe to liberalism wholeheartedly as what appears to be the case here? You don’t get to choose the consequences of your actions, you can only inform yourself so that you can make better decisions in the future. If the effect of this joke is that it reproduces the idea that there are physical markers for moral depravity, then you either have to admit that you want it to have that function or change the way you understand these terms and the context they exist in. Some fascists choose to be fascists, most of them just don’t think about it.
You think I’m a liberal…? Wow. Damn I’m glad I’m sitting down, that one hurt.
This is the sort of thinking that gets people to sit peacefully ont heir couch because violence is inherently fascist, and to use violence against the state would be morally repugnant because of the message it would send about how to resolve our differences.
How about, we kill the people hurting others for personal gain, and then we have a nice long talk about why we shouldn’t kill people in polite society, which those others intentionally destroyed?
Or is that promoting fascist ideology as well?
Oh look, another Lemmy “leftist,” who thinks systemic oppression is just when people are mean about how you look. We all know you’re a lib dude, nobody else is so self-righteous about aggrieved entitlement to bigotry. You want to feel like a good person without actually understanding what that means and putting the work into changing.
If you can’t tell the difference between anti-fascism and pacifism, you better stay the fuck on your couch, we don’t want you out here. I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have a story about some smug fuck lib man showing up to events and saying some edgelord power-fantasy shit before saying some bigoted shit. You aren’t a fucking socialist if you subscribe to liberal constructions of human value, you dense chud.
Ok, dude. You know best right?
“when people are mean about how you look”
Like when you got butthurt I said it’s ok to call Nazis fat? Truly unreal levels of delusion to think you are the arbiter of truth and light.
Yes, I know better than you, get the fuck over it. You can’t even grasp how these forms of oppression are intersectional and you have the vibes of a socialist boyfriend who doesn’t do the dishes. I’m sure you’re very satisfied identifying every problem you have with the system from your limited perspective, knowledge, and empathy.
Won’t be responding to anything else other than your reading list on anti-fascist scholarship or writing related to these topics.