I’m not worried about that specifically, although it is headed there in some states. It is just the general degradation in the quality of education and the veracity of the information presented at just about every level that really bums me out.

I agree that it shouldn’t result in anyone coming to your house to force the subject. How to present it and provide a service that people can recognize as a net benefit? Decentralized would probably be good but it cannot be denied, as you said, that apprenticeships and hands on learning are very effective. Yet, they are very difficult to decentralize as they require a lot of equipment at each location.

Virtual reality with haptic feedback would be pretty close, if we can get it to work in an open source meshnet sort of way.

Ok, dude. You know best right?

“when people are mean about how you look”

Like when you got butthurt I said it’s ok to call Nazis fat? Truly unreal levels of delusion to think you are the arbiter of truth and light.

We are all inspired by these men.

His name was Robert paulson. Or something.

There have been studies that the laws and regulations being passed are completely indifferent to the will of the American populace. If you only consider the top 10% (but especially the top 1%) the correlation is almost one to one, the higher the percentage of people in that group want something, the higher the change it is passed in Congress.

As for how we get them to listen to us now, and undo decades of entrenched apathy, idk. Excessive violence?

You think I’m a liberal…? Wow. Damn I’m glad I’m sitting down, that one hurt.

This is the sort of thinking that gets people to sit peacefully ont heir couch because violence is inherently fascist, and to use violence against the state would be morally repugnant because of the message it would send about how to resolve our differences.

How about, we kill the people hurting others for personal gain, and then we have a nice long talk about why we shouldn’t kill people in polite society, which those others intentionally destroyed?

Or is that promoting fascist ideology as well?

I agree with just about everything you said. Well put and reasoned. But it doesn’t really wrap back around to what should be taught to the children. Do we let them decide everything for themselves or regiment what is necessary to live in our hellscape society?

Then you can ask what is necessary to live in this society? Is it comp sci degrees? Everyone thought so. Now they’re basically useless. That has happened to every generation for the last 30 years or so.

Additionally, as a child I was driven to learn because I was genuinely curious despite crushing depression. It has left me grasping to understand how others approach the world, because let me tell you, it is not how I do so. I would need to look at some good data about how students/adults learn generally, which I have not done much of admittedly.

Song of my soul, my voice is dead; Die thou, unsung, as tears unshed Shall dry and die in Lost Carcosa.

Robert W. Chambers

I mean I like your ideas but that doesn’t really address the “how” of educating. As in how are those materials presented to people?

How do we ensure that children are actually being educated and not just glazing their eyes over as the info flows past? How do we ensure that that education is not just “God did it, now shit up.” How do we get people to be interested in learning and not just stop the second someone isn’t pointing a gun at their head?

If they are demanding their government not continue the same neoliberal drivel that got everyone here, then that’d be good. What to do in the immediate present, idk steal an oil tanker from Russia? Not many other options.

Start transitions to fully green energy. But that’s not immediate.

It’s a wild pilgrimage to the inevitable deaths of everyone involved. Stories brought from across the stars and yet all connected with all the answers laying somewhere in the swirling seas of time.

Insane visuals of various planets and the constructions and ruins of man.

Everyone should read this series. It’s great. Not just for its dunking on AI.

Hyperion and Endymion. (4 books total)

From reading some of the comments here, it seems that some people think learning is a net negative or neutral for whoever is doing the learning and that one should learn as little as possible.

They seem to think that because they don’t literally write down the equation of “x²+6” that they never use it in their lives and so it is pointless to learn.

There are also people who seem to think that basing your education off of what could help you not being taken advantage of, or misunderstanding the world around you, is silly and you should only follow what is in your heart. Learning what interests you and nothing else.

I don’t understand either of you, idiots.

Debate me, I guess.

Are there other people who just never even consider what they look like? As in, the concept barely exists in their head? Clothes, hair, whatever.

I spend maybe 3 seconds on it if I’m in a charitable mood.

It’s just so wild for me to see all of this stuff everywhere destroying people’s lives over something that I don’t even experience in any way.

Don’t worry though, plenty depressed about other stuff.

I’m not even reading this horseshit.

Theists can eat shit and die. Fuck off.

Ooooh a pardon!! Is that like a magical seal that repels all justice? It sure would be a shame if literally no one gave a single fuck if there was a pardon or not when this government is burned to the ground.

Those anticapitalist shitheads. They should be beaten with billyclubs and have their wages reduced for the pain and suffering they have caused their bosses.

I assume this is his internal monologue.

I have seen this repeatedly, and while I understand that it would be sad, what is more valuable: 1-3 pets, or all the humans that will have their lives destroyed by the fuck you set fire to?

Did you forget why we were here? Liberation isn’t free. Dead animals are very sad. I get it. A dead ecosystem includes many dead animals. Like, MANY.

I also don’t really care about offending people, but claiming that they are conflating fatness with being a Nazi is ludicrous.

Them being fat isn’t worse than them being a Nazi, you braindead, victimhood-seeking pillouck. It is just offensive to say to them and makes them sad. Trying to police every word that people say is also highly fascist.

You wanna be a fascist or not?

You really are trying to twist what language means. We use words to be understood and you seem intent on mischaracterizing and misattributing the meaning of words when it suits you. Should we restrain from calling them pedophiles too? I mean surly there are some pedophiles out there who would be offended at being linking to Nazis. It BESMIRCHES the good name of pedophiles.

Please, good sir, tell me what insults I can hurl at the people MURDERING AND ABUSING PEOPLE that they actually care about? Shall I dig back a hundred years to find something no one else finds offensive? And they will?

LITERALLY the only good thing I could point to in the United States were the national parks. There nothing else of value either within the society or government.

Good job everyone.