• danc4498@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Death and physical abuse and injury are in the files. And supposedly only Epstein and Maxwell are guilty?

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    2 months ago

    If there was a situation I’d want something like palantiers software to scan a shitload of video footage and give facial recognition data and a summary to exist… this is it. But of course… since it would actually do some good, it’s not being used for this case.

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      2 months ago

      Palantir is more likely to be used to try and hide this shit than it this to try and bring it out to light.

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        Seeing as Peter Thiel is on the list, and frequented his island and parties, that’s a pretty safe bet that thiel is working to quash any exposure.

        I want to know if they abused boys as well, I bet they did, both thiel and mandelson are gay, and I bet they abused boys. But these releases from the doj are only a few of the people, not what they did. They don’t have to id the victims, but if thiel fucked an underage boy, which we all know he did, it should’ve been disclosed. We need a way to get this information in the public domain.

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          you are saying that the guy who injects young boys’ blood into his body to preserve his own youth is also raping young boys?

          woah, man, you are sounding like a conspiracy theorist.

          /s

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        2 months ago

        Obviously, just pointing out… they literally have designed and are using a tool that has the exact capacities needed to do the unthinkable… IE watch countless hours of CSAM, that would wreck the souls of any human with a heart. identify and footnote every instance of a perpetrators face being revealed, identify and log the exact timestamp of each identifying frames.

        We know they won’t use it for this… but the irony of knowing they have the technology that has this exact capability, and are only using it to go after people that more or less have not victimized anyone is so disheartening.

        It’s like if they invented a small portable cheap device that could create safe drinking water wherever you need it, and their only thought was “hey we can use this to waterboard people”.

  • Anna@lemmy.ml
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    I mean out of those 14TB a huge chunk will be photos and videos I never want to see.

    • ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world
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      Those videos are horrible. I’m not exaggerating. But be forewarned.

      I clicked on one, just one, and it took me days to get it out of my head, even though I saw nothing and the visual was almost entirely blackboxed. Just the understanding of what was happening and to whom did me in.

      So be aware that if you do this without really knowing in advance what you’re clicking on, it may fuck you up for a while.

      You have been warned.

      • multifariace@lemmy.world
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        I have a strong constitution for trauma. My curiosity and desire for removing horrible people from power is strong. I still don’t feel safe opening those files. All I can do is hope that the right people do. People with judicial power and strength to effectuate action.

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          Anyone with integrity, loyalty to justice; the nation; it’s people, has been removed from their positions now as they’ve had cause to give themselves away. There is no one to bring justice, unless we take the country, unless we create a popular reform, take the democratic party, and elections, and build and run a political machine, ruthlessly, there will be no justice.

          We are getting reform, under strong leadership, it’s either fascist, or true populist, we are surrendering to the fascists by fighting under these establishment democrats, for an unthinkable future.

    • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
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      No way… I saw someone say you could change it from .pdf to .mov on tiktok to turn in them into videos. But it was tiktok so I was like “no way this is true”

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      I tried following this and it didn’t work. Searched “no image produced” and got no results.

      Searched “no image” and got results, but they are all pdf files that I can view.

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    death

    I was happy believing snuff movies were a myth, or extremely rare.

    Now I need these bastards dead (extremely painfully if possible, but I’ll take anything that removes them from society).

    I already did, of course, but now it’s even more urgent.

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      The moment children and then babies where mentioned, it was a sign that this is a much deeper hole. The initial stages where women and teens where mentioned was just the surface of true evil that lies within.

      Where at the stage where we entered the unthinkable zone. Somewhere where the human part of a human doesn’t matter and where children and even babies are being dragged down.

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      Wait I thought to be a true “snuff film” it had to be like an actual scripted narrative film with like “filmmakers” wherein someone is murdered on screen for real, not just home murder movies, am I wrong? If any recorded murder counts then of course there’s snuff films, 3 guys 1 hammer comes to mind, BTK, etc, but I thought it had to be like a proper movie.

      If I’m right then this is more of a home movie/blackmail material situation, I don’t think they have like a secret Woody Allen film (though nothing is impossible, he’s in the files, they could.)

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        No. The term applies to any video footage of somebody actually dying, as opposed to a film where the death is staged.

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          snuff film

          noun

          A movie in a purported genre of movies in which an actor is actually murdered or commits suicide

          A film that shows, or purports to show, the actual deliberate killing of one of the performers.

          Sorry but no, that is the misconception I’m speaking of. Back when this was originally posted months ago it prompted me to look it up, finding the definition, which quite clearly through the use of the words “actor” and “performers” does differentiate it from simple videos of death/murder to mean a scripted work that contains a death/murder. Which makes more sense in the “snuff films are a myth” context, because quite clearly “videos of death” are verifiably real, which would put that entire debate to rest.

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              Does it though?

              Slang. a pornographic film that shows an actual murder of one of the performers, as at the end of a sadistic act.

              splatter film (a film containing many scenes of violent and gruesome murders.)

              It just narrows it further, claiming it has to be pornographic, or multiple murders, or collections like faces of death at the most generous interpretation.

  • vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I’m ok with the U.S. government not actually distributing child sexual abuse material. I’m not ok with pretending it’s not there.

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      US government helped make it.

      Epstein sent FOIA requests to the CIA on himself about his relationship with them and they sent back only GLOMARs stating they could neither confirm nor deny anything because it would reveal information on classified programs. His bodyguard claims he was sent to train with CIA at Langley upon being hired.

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      I can understand them not distributing the unedited material, but it shouldn’t be hard to get edited stills of any other people in the photos or videos, other than the victims. We should see the faces of these PedoCons.

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    Where’s the 14 Tb claim coming from? I’ve not seen that before, just 6 million pages.

    Edit: it looks like Channel 4 news has this scoop, they’ve seen emails from someone in the FBI who claimed there were 14.6 TB of data.
    Link (video)

  • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
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    The FBI has a project called ECAP, and basically some poor FBI agents have to watch CSAM to determine if they can locate the child or the offenders. Sometimes if they can get a shot of the offenders face or voice or movement, they post it on their website with the CSAM part blocked out to try and help find these sociopaths. It is AWFULLY hard to look at or hear even redacted like that. It’s very clear what they’re doing in the images.

    So I cannot IMAGINE what this is like.

  • A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip
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    And then they passed this rule that only congress members (personally, no aides) can look at the files, on provided government computers.

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      They’re on display in the bottom drawer of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying “Beware of the Leopard”.

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        I don’t think so. This was on the news just a few days ago. I think the files are quite accessible, but only to high-level officials. The point is that it would take many days of full-time work to sift through everything, and they cannot offload it to other people working for them.

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          What do you mean? They are only available to members of congress, not their staffs, which do all the work, and only available in a secure scif whatever, they can’t bring in electronics, it’s read only, and taking notes.

          Lawmakers don’t do anything themselves their staff does stuff. Disallowing their staffs, and electronic devices to be used, guarentees they won’t be able to uncover virturally everything being hidden from us here.

          So no, the files aren’t accessible, there is zero way to get an honest accounting of even these 3 million of 8 million total pages that were illegally redacted before the justice department got to redacting them. Protecting victims predictably means protecting co conspirators. After all the president and his billionaire pals are always the real victims.

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          There are four computers and they are only accessible during daylight hours.

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    Rmember: Epstein did this alone and for himself. No billionaire friend was involved and no lackey ever helped. \s

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    Some girls did not make it back from that island! No one is asking the real questions here. What happened to those girls?

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      No you’re right. We can’t handle it.

      Share it anyway. Whether or not we can handle it shouldn’t be the issue. The truth should be. Let the world know just how awful these people are and the remarkably unfettered and despicable things they did.