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High gas prices are a small price to pay for owning the libs!
Either that or claims current gas prices are somehow still bidens fault. Or perhaps Obama
It’s those liberal A-rabs.
My MAGA relative over Easter weekend claimed they have never really understood why people get so upset about gas prices. 🙄
I’m sure there are a small number of MAGA voters who are happy about high gas prices.
Ones working in the domestic oil industry, mostly … especially the owners.
It’s almost like it’s was orchestrated by them…
MAGA believes this war should’ve done sooner (Biden and Obama didn’t have the balls to do what Trump did!), and high gas prices are due to past presidents slow to action.
I had my FIL make this claim that high gas prices are a small price to pay for disarming Iran and taking away their ability to create nuclear weapons.
I wonder what his excuse will be after TACO Tuesday when Trump accepted the Iranian 10 point peace plan which included their right to uranium enrichment, mussels and drones. I’m sure Fox News will feed him some other bullshit line.
You mean the exact deal we had in place already to prevent that, but trump withdrew from in 2018 and never got another deal agreed upon and just walked away? That one?
Yep that’s the one!
Of course since Obama did it, it doesn’t count, would never have worked, and probably would have helped Iran develop the bomb faster… /s
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Is it really the onion? I’m certain there are quite a few MAGAts who would say exactly that, because apparently it’s necessary to fix the country
Yeah the onion has a hard time with parody these days, and this time they strayed too much to the truth
Lots of people agree with Greg Mankiw, chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers under President Bush, that gas should be more expensive.
Gas should be more expensive. Just look at all the new cars being sold that only get like 30 mpg, or our crumbling infrastucture because gas taxes are so low, or the impending climate catastrophe.
The two barriers to EV adoption for me is charge time and vehicle purchase cost. If they made the batteries go from zero to full in the same time as it takes to fill a gas tank, and they brought the price way down so its the same as a combustion vehicle, id be first in line.
It looks like we are getting there, but those issues aren’t really as big issues as you think.
You still try to fit EV into ICE mold, where you need to go to special places called gas stations to fuel it. Electricity is ubiquitous and most of the time you will charge your car at your home during night, having “tank” full every day. You almost forget about things called “refueling”.
As for price “fuel” is already cheaper, and with how trump fucked up energy market it will be even cheaper (relatively).
But yeah there are massive improvements in charging times and as there’s more EVs produced the price will get even lower.
When ICE cars were first created they were also impractical compared to horses.
You really don’t need this though. How long is your car sitting idle when you’re at work or at home? Most people can just charge overnight and would never have to go to a charging station. Assuming you have access to an electrical outlet near your car, of course.
Every other month (and sometimes every month), i do a five-hour one way drive. Occasionally, i drive 11+ hours one way. Several times in my life, Ive driven from one side of the US to the other (pacific coast to east side of the Midwest – took three days of 12+ hour driving). I want to be able to do those things in my own car at the drop of a hat, and I dont want to add hours upon hours of sitting at a charging station onto these already long trips.
My state capitol is about 4.5 hours away by car – about 300 miles. Seems like that would be a close shave in the average EV.
Here’s the problem with EV proponents: “the problem isnt the mediocre EV tech – the problem is Fudgy’s requirements and expectations for a vehicle.” And that’s almost enough to make a fella be anti-EV for the sake of being anti-EV. Im not there yet, but im close.
You do realize that modern EVs (and the appropriate charging infrastructure) can charge 10-80% in less than half an hour, after hours of driving?
I can fill my gas tank from 0-100% in less than five minutes and it has a range of 430 miles. Your numbers rely on availability of the super duper chargers and they still dont pencil out in favor of EVs vs ICE on long drives especially when considering range.
300 miles was almost a full tank of gas for me in my ICE car. If you’re driving that far for that long all at once, you should probably take a half hour to stretch your legs and walk around a little anyways. Or we could improve inter-city train networks so you wouldn’t have to drive at all.
See what I mean? First it’s “you dont need that” and then it’s “you shouldnt drive like that.” The drivers and their wants and needs are the problem, not the lesser products that are being pushed by EV makers.
No thanks. I’ll buy ICE and/or hybrid cars until they make a full EV that meets my wants and needs.
Train networks cost a shit ton of money. Not happening in my corner or travel corridor in the US in my lifetime.
I’d argue we effectively do have this, or close enough. Obviously I’d always want better but - normally time doesn’t matter: plug in overnight and it’s always full by morning. Then it’s more of an infrastructure problem in that not everyone has a place to plug in - on a trip, at a trip charger, my cars trip planning only asks 10-15 minutes of charging to stay on the steep part of the charging curve. If you use the restrooms, you’re almost there
We can and should have that now. Prices are getting closer to parity so a few more years with incentives would have done it. Or, if we got rid of protectionism and allowed competition, we’d be well past cost parity
Gas should be more expensive: look at typical prices in the rest of the world
All in, so effective at pushing renewables. Relatively small pain now, less extreme later.
What’s this MAGA crap ?