• Retail4068@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    Progressives absolutely have a non trivial part in annoying and shaming men into fascism. Clavisiular is a direct result of screaming at young men that there is something wrong with them from an early age and they have nobody to talk to without being ridiculed and being lectured about how men are in power and they should suck it up.

    There is a whole lot more to it, but do not pretend like the constant finger wagging and shame hasn’t played it’s part.

    I’m not saying we don’t fight for equality. I’m just saying that a large chunk of progressive media and individuals go about it poorly.

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      9 days ago

      In my everyday life the only ones bringing up woke positions are right nut jobs that complain about ‘everything being woke’.

      So no, I personally don’t experience much annoyance by ‘woke policy’.

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        9 days ago

        Anyone with emotional maturity developed past seventeen yrs doesn’t. But you have to remember progress has to be done bringing idiots along to be a part of it. There’s a pretty deep desire to be visibly correct in front of a crowd that tends to override empathy that we would have for the stupid.

        • Kindness is Punk@lemmy.ca
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          9 days ago

          Tangentially related but I think one of the biggest issues with that instinct is that it plays right into the debate bro energy. Because it was a framework to let idiots feel like they were correct without ever having to have any actual knowledge on the subject.

          Which is why I think it caught on so much because it’s very intoxicating to feel like you can never be wrong especially for people who are young and vulnerable about their position in the world. Showing them a way they can be strong and confident and never be wrong is appealing but it also obviously won’t lead to growth.