Celtic Fan Fury at Hoops Board Justified?

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00:01:34at that as well

00:01:35I've been here all week

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00:01:41Alan Ruff, Alison McConnell

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00:01:44Tam McManus

00:01:45three people who

00:01:47occasionally if there's a sniffle

00:01:48they take time off for the full week

00:01:51I was at Death's Door

00:01:53honestly I was

00:01:54anybody seen me at the side of the road

00:01:56in Kirkcaldy on Monday I apologise

00:01:57yeah the other thing I was going to say to you is

00:01:59remember it's a kind of a

00:02:00it's a football show with

00:02:01football fans from all different levels

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00:02:05what happened that made you sick?

00:02:08I had

00:02:09I don't know if it was an oyster or

00:02:11mussels

00:02:12yeah

00:02:12which reminds me of

00:02:15the moment in year one

00:02:17of the football show

00:02:18where Ruffy said

00:02:19what are you doing at the weekend

00:02:20and Ruffy said

00:02:21well I'm taking the kids out on their horses

00:02:24and completely alienated

00:02:26from 80% of our audience

00:02:28I just thought I'd try it Peter

00:02:29I've never tried oysters before

00:02:31and I've tried one

00:02:31and I'm never trying it again

00:02:32I don't know what it's done to me

00:02:33yeah

00:02:34I was dying for three days

00:02:35Ali

00:02:35oysters

00:02:36is that a type of thing

00:02:37that you would partake in?

00:02:38I don't like oysters

00:02:39what's the matter with you?

00:02:40I just did some time off

00:02:42is that okay?

00:02:43I just put it on record

00:02:44I was axed

00:02:45can I

00:02:50can I just put it on record as well

00:02:52Ruffy was axed

00:02:54after the worst

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00:02:59reverberated around

00:03:00the Scotty Speaker Circuit

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00:03:05taping over

00:03:06the World Cups

00:03:07from 78 and 82

00:03:08because

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00:03:20Hugh Burns as well

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00:04:32back to domestic football

00:04:33which is what

00:04:34Tam loves

00:04:35he's rubbing his hands

00:04:36Motherwell against Falkirk

00:04:38Hibbs against Livingston

00:04:39St Mirren Aberdeen

00:04:40Rangers Dundee United

00:04:41Kilmarnock Hearts

00:04:42and Dundee against Celtic

00:04:44so

00:04:44first stop

00:04:45is he

00:04:47or isn't he

00:04:48and it all seems like

00:04:50he's definitely coming

00:04:51Kevin Muscat

00:04:53looks as if it's odds on

00:04:54he's going to be

00:04:55the new Rangers manager

00:04:56it's certainly something

00:04:58that's thought provoking

00:04:59for us all

00:04:59gives us a chance

00:05:00to look at all the newspapers

00:05:01saying we told you first

00:05:03as they did

00:05:06with Stephen Gerrard

00:05:07so

00:05:08this man here

00:05:09we heard from

00:05:10Charlie Adam

00:05:11in midweek

00:05:11Ali

00:05:12as a player

00:05:13feisty

00:05:15to say the very least

00:05:16as a manager

00:05:17different character

00:05:18yeah I think that's

00:05:19quite common

00:05:20with players

00:05:21who go into coaching

00:05:22that they can be

00:05:23the antithesis

00:05:24of what they wear

00:05:24as players

00:05:25Tony Mowbray's

00:05:26a great example

00:05:27Tony Mowbray

00:05:27was actually the one

00:05:29that I was about

00:05:29to suggest

00:05:30I think

00:05:31even guys like

00:05:32Alan Stubbs

00:05:33I think you can all

00:05:34you know

00:05:35your philosophy

00:05:36when you're a player

00:05:37is very different

00:05:37to how you then

00:05:38see the game

00:05:39and how you want

00:05:39your own teams

00:05:40to go and play

00:05:41I think

00:05:41it'll be an interesting

00:05:43appointment

00:05:43he was very close

00:05:44when it was

00:05:45Philip Clermont

00:05:46who took over

00:05:47the job

00:05:47I think

00:05:48he comes

00:05:49with a track record

00:05:50of having

00:05:51had success

00:05:52in his coaching career

00:05:53which I think

00:05:54will be important

00:05:54I don't think

00:05:56it's quite the same

00:05:57as Gerrard's

00:05:59appointment

00:05:59if he had

00:06:00accepted the job

00:06:01and that it would

00:06:02have unified

00:06:02a support

00:06:03very quickly

00:06:04and maybe just

00:06:05quietened down

00:06:06the atmosphere

00:06:07and the tension

00:06:08that's around

00:06:09the club's hierarchy

00:06:10however

00:06:10I think he will be

00:06:12seen as an acceptable

00:06:13appointment

00:06:14but he needs to

00:06:15hit the ground running

00:06:16I think when you

00:06:16look at the gap

00:06:17that exists just now

00:06:18there is absolutely

00:06:19no margin

00:06:20for error

00:06:21for Rangers now

00:06:22and for all the

00:06:22certainty

00:06:23Ruffy

00:06:23that it was going

00:06:24to be

00:06:24Stephen Gerrard

00:06:25of course

00:06:26the word coming out

00:06:27is that just

00:06:28the timing

00:06:29wasn't right

00:06:29my sources

00:06:31tell me

00:06:31the timing

00:06:32wasn't right

00:06:32because Rangers

00:06:33weren't going

00:06:33to pay his

00:06:34£5 million

00:06:35tax bill

00:06:35Yeah

00:06:36I think there

00:06:37was other

00:06:37things as well

00:06:37obviously the

00:06:38demands of his

00:06:39coaching staff

00:06:40and everything

00:06:40and the people

00:06:41above who were

00:06:42making the decisions

00:06:43I don't think

00:06:43he was too

00:06:44happy with the

00:06:45decision makers

00:06:46that obviously

00:06:47had something to

00:06:48do with it as well

00:06:48but he seems to

00:06:49have a wee bit

00:06:50of credential

00:06:50but it's very

00:06:51apparent that

00:06:52we're now getting

00:06:53as we usually

00:06:55get a lot of

00:06:55ex-people who

00:06:56know him saying

00:06:56he's the one

00:06:57and I think

00:06:58there's a swell

00:06:59out there as

00:07:00Alison says

00:07:01to sort of

00:07:02convince the

00:07:02supporters that

00:07:03he is the

00:07:04number one

00:07:04because that's

00:07:05the first thing

00:07:05he's got to do

00:07:06we don't want

00:07:07to see the same

00:07:08carry on we had

00:07:08the last time

00:07:09with the supporters

00:07:10so he's got to

00:07:11come in as Alison

00:07:12said he's got to

00:07:12hit the ground

00:07:13running he's got

00:07:13to win games

00:07:14I think he's

00:07:14still got to

00:07:15win them over

00:07:16he has got a lot

00:07:17of credit in the

00:07:18bank from abroad

00:07:19but the supporters

00:07:20will still be

00:07:20wanting a manager

00:07:22who's going to

00:07:22give them a winning

00:07:23team

00:07:23Yeah you can say

00:07:24he is the one

00:07:25my view on it

00:07:28is he's certainly

00:07:29the best one

00:07:30of the candidates

00:07:31that we're looking

00:07:31at I mean

00:07:32Danny Roll

00:07:33didn't exactly

00:07:34excite me

00:07:35Stephen Gerrard

00:07:36equally so

00:07:37I thought he was

00:07:38a failed manager

00:07:39I didn't see

00:07:40the obsession

00:07:41with him

00:07:41this guy

00:07:42has won titles

00:07:43in three different

00:07:44countries

00:07:44so you know

00:07:45whether you want

00:07:47to be derogatory

00:07:48towards the standard

00:07:49of the leagues

00:07:50he was in

00:07:51you still have to

00:07:51win them

00:07:52so he's got

00:07:53something Tam

00:07:54and I think

00:07:54he was the best

00:07:56option of the ball

00:07:56and I also include

00:07:57Sean Dyche in this

00:07:58Yeah listen

00:08:00I think I'm on

00:08:01record as saying

00:08:02two years ago

00:08:02that I thought

00:08:03Kevin Muscat

00:08:03should have been

00:08:04the manager

00:08:04when Philip

00:08:05Clement got the

00:08:05job

00:08:06I didn't get it

00:08:07I think it was

00:08:08between the two

00:08:08of them

00:08:08that went with

00:08:09Philip Clement

00:08:09but a couple

00:08:10of weeks ago

00:08:11I said Kevin

00:08:11Muscat again

00:08:12again he's a

00:08:12manager on an

00:08:14upward trajectory

00:08:15he's going to

00:08:16win a title

00:08:16in China

00:08:17it looks like

00:08:17he's won in

00:08:18Japan

00:08:18he's won in

00:08:19Australia

00:08:19he's a winner

00:08:20as a player

00:08:20he plays a very

00:08:21attacking brand

00:08:22of football

00:08:22I think Shanghai

00:08:23have scored

00:08:2390 plus goals

00:08:24this season

00:08:25so

00:08:25they go on

00:08:27the front foot

00:08:27they try and

00:08:28get after teams

00:08:28and batter in

00:08:30the goals

00:08:30so for me

00:08:31I think he ticks

00:08:32a lot of boxes

00:08:33he's been at

00:08:33Rangers

00:08:34I remember

00:08:34playing against

00:08:35him when I

00:08:35was at

00:08:35Hibs

00:08:35tough tackling

00:08:36player

00:08:37didn't take

00:08:38any nonsense

00:08:38from anyone

00:08:39and he won

00:08:40a treble at

00:08:40Rangers

00:08:41so for me

00:08:42he ticks a lot

00:08:43of boxes

00:08:43I think Gerard

00:08:44was the number

00:08:44one

00:08:44but for me

00:08:45I think that

00:08:46Kevin Muscat

00:08:47would be

00:08:47a good manager

00:08:49for Rangers

00:08:49if he gets

00:08:50the time

00:08:50and we're

00:08:50speaking about

00:08:51getting time

00:08:52and hitting

00:08:53the ground

00:08:53running

00:08:54obviously he has

00:08:54to hit the

00:08:55ground running

00:08:55but there's

00:08:56got to be

00:08:56a period

00:08:56of bedding

00:08:58in for him

00:08:58to try and

00:08:59get his

00:08:59ideas across

00:09:00which the

00:09:01last few

00:09:01Rangers managers

00:09:01just haven't

00:09:02got

00:09:02I think the

00:09:03Rangers fans

00:09:04have to

00:09:06basically say

00:09:07the rinse

00:09:08and repeat

00:09:09the unrest

00:09:10the anger

00:09:12at and

00:09:14displeasure

00:09:14at the

00:09:15manager selection

00:09:17has to be put

00:09:18on the back

00:09:18burner

00:09:18I think he

00:09:20comes in

00:09:20eight games

00:09:21from now

00:09:22if that's the

00:09:22way it pans

00:09:23out

00:09:23Alison

00:09:23I think he

00:09:24comes in

00:09:25and they just

00:09:26say listen

00:09:26we're going to

00:09:27give you the

00:09:27January transfer

00:09:28window

00:09:28we're going to

00:09:29give you the

00:09:29summer transfer

00:09:30window

00:09:30the expectation

00:09:32might be from

00:09:33the fans

00:09:33make it interesting

00:09:34but you're not

00:09:35going to win the

00:09:35league

00:09:35you would have

00:09:37to say it

00:09:37looks as though

00:09:38the league

00:09:38has gone

00:09:38it's too

00:09:39big a gap

00:09:40to claw back

00:09:40is it too early

00:09:40somebody actually

00:09:42posted a message

00:09:43saying everybody

00:09:43should get a grip

00:09:44it's too early

00:09:45and you guys are

00:09:46two teams

00:09:47Peter is the

00:09:48one for me

00:09:48I think if you're

00:09:48chasing one

00:09:49but you're needing

00:09:49two to drop

00:09:50points I think

00:09:51makes it more

00:09:51difficult

00:09:52realistically

00:09:52you would have

00:09:53to say it

00:09:54looks as though

00:09:55it's gone

00:09:55it would have

00:09:56to be

00:09:57blemish free

00:09:57almost perfect

00:09:59between now

00:10:00and the end

00:10:00of the season

00:10:00and that would

00:10:01be a real

00:10:02contrast to how

00:10:03the campaign

00:10:04began

00:10:04you're looking

00:10:05to turn it

00:10:06round immediately

00:10:07I'm not sure

00:10:08that that's a

00:10:09realistic proposition

00:10:10you also have

00:10:11to factor in

00:10:11the fact that

00:10:12the club spent

00:10:13a lot of money

00:10:14across the summer

00:10:15backing Russell

00:10:16Martin

00:10:16and then you're

00:10:18talking about

00:10:18going into a

00:10:19January transfer

00:10:20window with

00:10:21fresh recruits

00:10:21you're on the

00:10:22risk of having

00:10:23a really bloated

00:10:24squad

00:10:25and then trying

00:10:26to keep

00:10:27everyone happy

00:10:28and get the

00:10:30right chemistry

00:10:31and the right

00:10:31balance on the

00:10:33pitch so he

00:10:33will have his

00:10:34work cut out

00:10:34he also

00:10:35if it is

00:10:37Kevin Muscat

00:10:37we know he

00:10:38won't come

00:10:38until later

00:10:39next month

00:10:40you're talking

00:10:41mid-November

00:10:42before you're

00:10:42getting their

00:10:43teeth into a

00:10:44job

00:10:44that's a big

00:10:45ask even now

00:10:46for the

00:10:46Rangers side

00:10:47to keep it

00:10:48going

00:10:48to make sure

00:10:49it's steady

00:10:49even until then

00:10:50is it a big

00:10:51ask if they

00:10:51drop Neil

00:10:52McCann in there

00:10:53as has been

00:10:54suggested

00:10:54to me it

00:10:55would be

00:10:55sensible

00:10:56somebody who

00:10:57knows the

00:10:57club

00:10:58knows the

00:10:58league

00:10:58knows the

00:11:00structure around

00:11:00the club

00:11:01knows the

00:11:01players

00:11:02was in

00:11:02very very

00:11:03recently

00:11:03it looks

00:11:04like common

00:11:05sense to

00:11:05me to

00:11:06make an

00:11:06appointment

00:11:07like that

00:11:07yeah

00:11:07Hugh Burns

00:11:08says Kevin

00:11:10Muscat made

00:11:10Gregor Stevens

00:11:11look like a

00:11:12choir boy

00:11:12and for the

00:11:13benefit of

00:11:14people under

00:11:14the age of

00:11:1440

00:11:15Gregor Stevens

00:11:16came from

00:11:17a period of

00:11:18football

00:11:19roughly it's

00:11:20fair to say

00:11:20where

00:11:21Willie McVie

00:11:22Miller

00:11:23the boy

00:11:24Miller

00:11:25Peter Miller

00:11:25at

00:11:25Motherwell

00:11:26their first

00:11:27three tackles

00:11:28were leg

00:11:28breakers

00:11:29and then

00:11:29after that

00:11:29they settled

00:11:30down into

00:11:30the game

00:11:31yep

00:11:31and I

00:11:31remember

00:11:32playing with

00:11:37one of

00:11:38them you'd

00:11:38left out

00:11:38there

00:11:39the big

00:11:39centre

00:11:39half

00:11:39Willie McVie

00:11:41he was

00:11:41and died

00:11:42out of the

00:11:42game

00:11:42yeah

00:11:43that was

00:11:44with his

00:11:44own team

00:11:45all these

00:11:51ones you

00:11:51mentioned

00:11:52there

00:11:52that was

00:11:52one at

00:11:53all costs

00:11:54you know

00:11:54but I

00:11:56don't remember

00:11:57much about

00:11:58him but

00:11:58certainly

00:11:59he's dodged

00:12:00the 2nd of

00:12:00November

00:12:01he's dodged

00:12:04that

00:12:04I don't think

00:12:05that's a good

00:12:05thing or a

00:12:06bad thing

00:12:06I don't think

00:12:07he's legitimately

00:12:08dodged it

00:12:09it's just a way

00:12:09you could look

00:12:11at it and say

00:12:12if he was here

00:12:12and he won

00:12:13it that would

00:12:13be an

00:12:13envidia

00:12:14you know

00:12:15the fans

00:12:15getting right

00:12:17behind him

00:12:17he's not

00:12:18going to be

00:12:18here for

00:12:18that so

00:12:19he's got

00:12:19the league

00:12:19games obviously

00:12:20to try and

00:12:21win

00:12:21so Stephen

00:12:23Smith

00:12:23and again

00:12:24I've watched

00:12:26him on

00:12:27a number

00:12:28of occasions

00:12:29obviously

00:12:29he takes

00:12:31the under

00:12:3219s I think

00:12:32it is

00:12:33so what

00:12:35a day it's

00:12:35going to be

00:12:35for him and

00:12:36his family

00:12:36sometimes

00:12:37ok he's never

00:12:39going to be

00:12:39the permanent

00:12:40manager but

00:12:40he's got a

00:12:41great chance

00:12:41to just go

00:12:41in there

00:12:42in the

00:12:43dressing room

00:12:43and deliver

00:12:44a speech

00:12:45as the

00:12:45interim

00:12:46Rangers

00:12:46manager

00:12:47he'll never

00:12:47take it away

00:12:47from him

00:12:48yeah brilliant

00:12:49I think he's

00:12:50obviously came

00:12:50through the ranks

00:12:50he's obviously

00:12:51played for Rangers

00:12:52and has a good

00:12:53career

00:12:54and coming in

00:12:55working up the

00:12:56youth levels

00:12:56at Rangers

00:12:57into the

00:12:57reserves

00:12:58he probably

00:12:59never thought

00:12:59that this

00:12:59opportunity

00:13:00would come

00:13:00so quickly

00:13:01but football

00:13:02is an amazing

00:13:03game

00:13:03you can find

00:13:04yourself thrust

00:13:04into the

00:13:05forefront of a

00:13:06massive club

00:13:06I've seen

00:13:07a couple of

00:13:07his press

00:13:08conferences

00:13:08he speaks

00:13:09well

00:13:09he looks

00:13:10as if he

00:13:10knows his

00:13:11stuff

00:13:11and he'll

00:13:12go and try

00:13:12and get a

00:13:13performance out

00:13:13the guys

00:13:13against

00:13:14United

00:13:14so

00:13:15brilliant

00:13:15for him

00:13:16brilliant

00:13:16for his

00:13:16family

00:13:16to walk

00:13:17out of

00:13:17Ibrox

00:13:17as a

00:13:17manager

00:13:18of

00:13:18Rangers

00:13:18it might

00:13:18never

00:13:19happen

00:13:19again

00:13:19but you can

00:13:20always say

00:13:20that he's

00:13:21played for

00:13:21Rangers

00:13:21and he's

00:13:22managed

00:13:22Rangers

00:13:22so for his

00:13:24sake

00:13:24he'll be wanting

00:13:25to go out

00:13:25there and get

00:13:26a victory

00:13:26and if he gets

00:13:27a couple of

00:13:28victories

00:13:28maybe not

00:13:29Rangers

00:13:29but other

00:13:30clubs might

00:13:30go he's

00:13:31got something

00:13:31he might

00:13:32find himself

00:13:32in another

00:13:33decent job

00:13:34is that a

00:13:35day when

00:13:35you go out

00:13:36in the

00:13:36trackies

00:13:36or do

00:13:37you wear

00:13:37the full

00:13:37suit

00:13:38I think

00:13:38he's an

00:13:38absolute

00:13:39certainty

00:13:39he's an

00:13:40absolute

00:13:40certainty

00:13:41of wearing

00:13:41a

00:13:41suit

00:13:41in

00:13:42brogues

00:13:42no chance

00:13:43stonewall

00:13:44I agree

00:13:45with

00:13:45stonewall

00:13:46Stephen

00:13:46Smith will

00:13:46have

00:13:47brown

00:13:47brogues

00:13:48in a

00:13:48suit

00:13:48I don't

00:13:49think

00:13:49so

00:13:49I agree

00:13:51I agree

00:13:52I agree

00:13:52exactly

00:13:54exactly

00:13:56I'm

00:13:57going

00:13:58I'm going

00:14:00for a

00:14:02track

00:14:02suit

00:14:02he's a

00:14:05coach

00:14:05he's not

00:14:06a manager

00:14:07I've already

00:14:08lost to you

00:14:09this week

00:14:09so I'm

00:14:10not doing

00:14:10what are

00:14:13they going

00:14:13to do

00:14:13next week

00:14:14at the

00:14:14European

00:14:14tie

00:14:15who's

00:14:16going to

00:14:16take care

00:14:16of them

00:14:17I think

00:14:19they might

00:14:19bring him

00:14:19in

00:14:20that would

00:14:20be the

00:14:20sensible

00:14:21thing

00:14:21as

00:14:21Alison

00:14:21mentioned

00:14:22you

00:14:22have

00:14:22to

00:14:22bring

00:14:23someone

00:14:23in

00:14:23like

00:14:23that

00:14:23because

00:14:23of

00:14:24their

00:14:24pro

00:14:25licence

00:14:25yeah

00:14:26absolutely

00:14:26it's a

00:14:26good

00:14:26point

00:14:27actually

00:14:27so

00:14:28the

00:14:29change

00:14:29is

00:14:30coming

00:14:30nevertheless

00:14:31and

00:14:32the

00:14:33funny

00:14:33thing

00:14:33about

00:14:34it

00:14:34is

00:14:34and

00:14:34the

00:14:35general

00:14:35feeling

00:14:35I'm

00:14:36getting

00:14:36Chris

00:14:38says

00:14:38talk of

00:14:38brogues

00:14:39is

00:14:39embarrassing

00:14:39what is

00:14:40this

00:14:40a fashion

00:14:40show

00:14:41Chris

00:14:41lighten up

00:14:41son

00:14:42it's

00:14:42only

00:14:42football

00:14:43for

00:14:43God's

00:14:43sake

00:14:44we're

00:14:44not

00:14:44we're

00:14:45not

00:14:45delivering

00:14:48something

00:14:48at a

00:14:49peace

00:14:49corps

00:14:49people wear

00:14:53brogues

00:14:53it's a

00:14:54nonsense

00:14:54it's a

00:14:55laugh

00:14:55he's

00:14:56going to

00:14:56get

00:14:56staunch

00:14:56right away

00:14:57get

00:14:57the fans

00:14:58behind

00:14:58you

00:14:58you're

00:14:59upset

00:14:59Chris

00:15:00he wants

00:15:00you to

00:15:00talk about

00:15:01formations

00:15:01but

00:15:03you know

00:15:03the realistic

00:15:04aspect of

00:15:04this is

00:15:05they'll want

00:15:07to try and

00:15:07get the

00:15:08results

00:15:08in and

00:15:09stay in

00:15:09it

00:15:09but I

00:15:10have my

00:15:11fears

00:15:11about this

00:15:12even with

00:15:12Neil

00:15:12McCannan

00:15:13there

00:15:13with that

00:15:14squad

00:15:14I think

00:15:16they could

00:15:17lose

00:15:17even further

00:15:18ground

00:15:18there's a

00:15:19fragility

00:15:19still about

00:15:21this

00:15:21Rangers

00:15:21team

00:15:22both

00:15:23on the

00:15:23park

00:15:24and the

00:15:24mentality

00:15:25among the

00:15:26squad

00:15:26and that

00:15:27would be the

00:15:27first element

00:15:28that you would

00:15:28probably want to

00:15:29address

00:15:29I think you would

00:15:30want to set

00:15:30them up

00:15:31to be hard

00:15:31to beat

00:15:32they've lost

00:15:32a lot of

00:15:33goals

00:15:33they've given

00:15:34away loads

00:15:35of chances

00:15:36within games

00:15:36I think you would

00:15:37start at the

00:15:37back

00:15:38you would look

00:15:39to that

00:15:40defensive line

00:15:41and try and

00:15:41make it as

00:15:42tight and as

00:15:43organised as

00:15:44possible

00:15:44I think that

00:15:44would be your

00:15:45first task

00:15:45lay the

00:15:46foundations

00:15:46make it as

00:15:48simple as

00:15:48possible

00:15:49and go out

00:15:49and just try

00:15:50and steady

00:15:51the ship a bit

00:15:51because part

00:15:53of the

00:15:53unrest

00:15:54isn't going to

00:15:55dissipate so

00:15:56quickly

00:15:56when you look

00:15:57at the

00:15:58abuse that

00:15:58Patrick Stewart

00:16:00and Kevin

00:16:01Thelwell have

00:16:01come in for

00:16:02I suspect you

00:16:03might still

00:16:04have echoes

00:16:05of that again

00:16:06tomorrow

00:16:06I think the

00:16:07supporters are

00:16:08still very

00:16:08disgruntled

00:16:09about the

00:16:10running of the

00:16:11club and the

00:16:11hierarchy

00:16:12I'm not sure

00:16:12that that's

00:16:13just going to

00:16:13evaporate entirely

00:16:15with the

00:16:16imminent

00:16:16appointment

00:16:16of Kevin

00:16:17Musket

00:16:18so we

00:16:19spoke to

00:16:19John

00:16:19Souter

00:16:20today

00:16:20who

00:16:20referenced

00:16:21how odd

00:16:21it has been

00:16:22and how

00:16:22difficult it

00:16:23has been

00:16:23playing in

00:16:24those

00:16:24circumstances

00:16:25I'm not

00:16:26sure that's

00:16:26entirely

00:16:27going to

00:16:28clear and I

00:16:29think if they

00:16:29don't start

00:16:30on the front

00:16:31foot and they

00:16:31don't start

00:16:32well and

00:16:32Dundee United

00:16:33get a sniff of

00:16:34anything then the

00:16:35atmosphere will

00:16:36remain pretty

00:16:38toxic at points

00:16:39yeah the

00:16:40other thing

00:16:41about it

00:16:41Ruffy

00:16:41which you

00:16:42hear rumblings

00:16:43in the

00:16:43background

00:16:44it's a new

00:16:45board

00:16:45it's a

00:16:46board that's

00:16:47a business

00:16:47and I think

00:16:48a lot of

00:16:49people are

00:16:49slightly miffed

00:16:51at some of

00:16:51the ways

00:16:51they're going

00:16:52about their

00:16:52business

00:16:53but I think

00:16:54the old

00:16:54guard has

00:16:55gone now

00:16:55and that

00:16:56kind of

00:16:56struggle for

00:16:58power is

00:16:59gone as well

00:16:59now and

00:16:59they're going

00:17:00to do it

00:17:00regardless of

00:17:01the noise

00:17:02that comes

00:17:02from elsewhere

00:17:03I hear some

00:17:04people well

00:17:05miffed that

00:17:05they've turned

00:17:05I think the old

00:17:06blue room has

00:17:07now turned into

00:17:07a cocktail bar

00:17:08that's just the

00:17:09latest of the

00:17:09madness that's

00:17:10going on

00:17:11but that's

00:17:13the way

00:17:13they will see

00:17:14it

00:17:14probably the

00:17:15next thing

00:17:15that I think

00:17:15will happen

00:17:16with great gusto

00:17:18is they'll start

00:17:18to look at a

00:17:19real American

00:17:21feel about

00:17:21coming to

00:17:22the game

00:17:23I think a lot

00:17:24of clubs are

00:17:24looking at it

00:17:25that way

00:17:25I know we

00:17:25did a feature

00:17:26on Motherwell

00:17:26and there's

00:17:27going to be a

00:17:28situation where

00:17:29you are going

00:17:30to come to

00:17:30a game

00:17:31Tam

00:17:31and there's

00:17:32going to be

00:17:32another area

00:17:34built within

00:17:35the grounds

00:17:35where basically

00:17:37everybody can

00:17:37come and

00:17:38enjoy

00:17:38entertainment

00:17:39drinks

00:17:40a lot

00:17:41I know

00:17:41when I

00:17:41go down

00:17:41to

00:17:42Anfield

00:17:43the boy

00:17:44was up

00:17:44on the stage

00:17:45singing

00:17:45and then

00:17:45everybody was

00:17:46enjoying a

00:17:47baby

00:17:47obviously you

00:17:48took it too

00:17:48far

00:17:48but still

00:17:50had a good

00:17:50night

00:17:50yeah I think

00:17:51they've all

00:17:52tried to

00:17:52Americanise it

00:17:53myself and

00:17:54Ruffy have

00:17:54obviously played

00:17:55in America

00:17:55and it's

00:17:56an entertainment

00:17:57I played in

00:17:59the top league

00:18:00I don't know

00:18:00Ruffy played

00:18:01in

00:18:01Ruffy played

00:18:03with George

00:18:03Best

00:18:04doesn't really

00:18:05need any more

00:18:05than that

00:18:06have you got

00:18:07an All-Star

00:18:07jersey

00:18:08did you get

00:18:08picked for the

00:18:09All-Star team

00:18:09at the end of

00:18:10the season

00:18:10you got

00:18:11like Torag

00:18:11so glad you

00:18:13said Torag

00:18:14did you get

00:18:15picked for the

00:18:15All-Star

00:18:16yes I got my

00:18:17jersey

00:18:17wow

00:18:17you sold that

00:18:19didn't you

00:18:19yeah

00:18:19anyway

00:18:20I was trying

00:18:22to Americanise

00:18:23it Peter

00:18:23and it's

00:18:25amazing because

00:18:25at the very

00:18:26start obviously

00:18:26remember

00:18:27there was

00:18:28Uncle Sam's

00:18:28and the flags

00:18:29when the

00:18:29American owners

00:18:30took it over

00:18:30now it's

00:18:31everything gets

00:18:32scrutinised when

00:18:32things are going

00:18:33wrong Peter

00:18:33at the club

00:18:34whether that's

00:18:35the owners

00:18:36the staff

00:18:36what the

00:18:37managers

00:18:37wearing

00:18:37it's just

00:18:38everything

00:18:39comes under

00:18:39the spotlight

00:18:40I've got a

00:18:41funny feeling

00:18:42they don't

00:18:43grasp the

00:18:44winning at all

00:18:45costs

00:18:45do you know

00:18:46what I mean

00:18:46I don't think

00:18:47they're coming

00:18:48from a structure

00:18:50that you win

00:18:50every week

00:18:51because if you

00:18:52watch the

00:18:52American football

00:18:53the 49ers

00:18:54they don't

00:18:55win every week

00:18:55they might have

00:18:56won one

00:18:57or two

00:18:57and I think

00:18:58they're now

00:18:59coming into

00:18:59a scenario

00:19:00and I think

00:19:00they're going

00:19:00to get an

00:19:01eye-opener

00:19:01of we need

00:19:02to win

00:19:03all the time

00:19:03there's no

00:19:04draws

00:19:05they don't

00:19:05have draws

00:19:06in the

00:19:07American football

00:19:07so I think

00:19:09it'll be an

00:19:09eye-opener

00:19:10for them

00:19:10just to see

00:19:12how they deal

00:19:12with it

00:19:12there's two

00:19:13aspects to it

00:19:14you have a

00:19:16theory that

00:19:17you can work

00:19:18and give

00:19:19someone time

00:19:20even if

00:19:20it's not

00:19:21working

00:19:21and then

00:19:22you have

00:19:22the reality

00:19:23of living

00:19:23that theory

00:19:24when you

00:19:25have protests

00:19:26outside the

00:19:27dressing room

00:19:27when your

00:19:27manager's

00:19:28trying to

00:19:28prepare a

00:19:29team

00:19:29for a

00:19:30game

00:19:30and all

00:19:30of a

00:19:31sudden

00:19:31there's a

00:19:32realisation

00:19:32that something

00:19:33can become

00:19:34unsustainable

00:19:35very quickly

00:19:35Ronnie Chapman

00:19:36says that's

00:19:36not right

00:19:37Peter

00:19:37I was in

00:19:37on Wednesday

00:19:38for the

00:19:38tour with

00:19:38my son

00:19:39the blue

00:19:39room

00:19:39never had

00:19:40drink

00:19:40or I

00:19:41would have

00:19:41had one

00:19:42he says

00:19:42no I

00:19:42think it's

00:19:43on match

00:19:43days I

00:19:43was talking

00:19:44about Ronnie

00:19:44because there

00:19:46used to be a

00:19:46traditional place

00:19:47where directors

00:19:49I think they've

00:19:50changed a lot

00:19:50they've changed

00:19:52their room

00:19:52I think we

00:19:53Barry's got a

00:19:54legend's room

00:19:55where there's

00:19:55two tables

00:19:56and it's just

00:19:57this room

00:19:58and it's

00:19:59obviously

00:19:59exclusive to

00:20:02certain people

00:20:02so they look

00:20:04after that room

00:20:04but I think

00:20:04they have changed

00:20:05a lot of

00:20:06things inside

00:20:07Ivers

00:20:07Rangers

00:20:08Dundee United

00:20:09Jim Goodwin

00:20:10is just

00:20:11talking about

00:20:11the fact

00:20:11that it's

00:20:12the best

00:20:12squad he's

00:20:13probably ever

00:20:13had

00:20:13signed 14

00:20:15players

00:20:15Ruffy

00:20:16and when you

00:20:18look at

00:20:18Dundee United

00:20:20and where

00:20:21they are in

00:20:22the league

00:20:22I think he's

00:20:23got to be

00:20:23happy with

00:20:24their start

00:20:24I think he

00:20:25let a couple

00:20:26slip that I

00:20:27thought he was

00:20:27going to win

00:20:27but other than

00:20:28that he's got

00:20:30to be happy

00:20:30with the way

00:20:30they've started

00:20:31I don't think

00:20:32it's a given

00:20:33that game

00:20:33I think he's

00:20:34already been

00:20:35on record

00:20:35to say

00:20:36for the first

00:20:37time he's

00:20:38been at a

00:20:38team where

00:20:38he's got

00:20:39two people

00:20:40for every

00:20:40position

00:20:40so that's

00:20:41always a

00:20:41good thing

00:20:42they have

00:20:43had some

00:20:43impressive

00:20:44results

00:20:44so I think

00:20:46there'll be

00:20:46a handful

00:20:46at the

00:20:46weekend

00:20:47and Rangers

00:20:48will have

00:20:49to be up

00:20:49for it

00:20:49It's one

00:20:50of those

00:20:50ones

00:20:51Ruffy

00:20:52where you

00:20:52set it up

00:20:52beautifully

00:20:53and then

00:20:53you're going

00:20:54to see a

00:20:543-0

00:20:54Rangers

00:20:55Dundee

00:20:56United are

00:20:57fourth in

00:20:57the table

00:20:58Ruffy

00:20:58Rangers are

00:20:59eighth

00:21:00so if

00:21:02Rangers can

00:21:02get the

00:21:03win they'll

00:21:03leapfrog over

00:21:04Dundee

00:21:04United

00:21:05how do you

00:21:06see it

00:21:07going

00:21:07United

00:21:08obviously off

00:21:09the back

00:21:09of that

00:21:09defeat

00:21:10Yeah

00:21:10I think

00:21:11Dundee

00:21:12United would

00:21:12be good

00:21:12enough to

00:21:13think they

00:21:13could get a

00:21:13draw at that

00:21:14game

00:21:14I'm going to go

00:21:16for a draw

00:21:16one each

00:21:16Ali

00:21:172-1 Rangers

00:21:18I'm going to

00:21:21go for a draw

00:21:221-1

00:21:23I'm going to

00:21:24go for an

00:21:24upset

00:21:25talking fourth

00:21:25against eighth

00:21:26I'm going to

00:21:27go Rangers

00:21:272-1

00:21:27Yeah

00:21:28Yeah

00:21:28Okay

00:21:29You've tried

00:21:30that gag

00:21:30twice

00:21:30Ruffy

00:21:32tried that

00:21:32the other

00:21:32night

00:21:33there

00:21:33and still

00:21:33nothing

00:21:34just

00:21:34tumbleweed

00:21:35and then

00:21:36eventually

00:21:37people going

00:21:38what was that

00:21:38you having

00:21:38at the bar

00:21:39so

00:21:40listen

00:21:42Stephen Smith

00:21:43has got a

00:21:43great chance

00:21:44to enjoy it

00:21:45and Alison

00:21:45was out there

00:21:46to chat to

00:21:46him

00:21:47Listen I'll be

00:21:47proud

00:21:48that's

00:21:48the first word

00:21:50I would probably

00:21:50use

00:21:51but again

00:21:52it's never

00:21:53ever about me

00:21:53probably in a

00:21:55week's time

00:21:55or two weeks

00:21:56time

00:21:56or maybe two

00:21:57years time

00:21:57I'll look back

00:21:58on it

00:21:58but I really

00:21:59want to enjoy it

00:22:00because I think

00:22:01there's times as a

00:22:02player when you

00:22:02just go day to

00:22:03day and you

00:22:03don't actually

00:22:04sit back and

00:22:04enjoy the moment

00:22:05that you're in

00:22:05I'll enjoy it a lot

00:22:07more if we win

00:22:08but that enjoyment

00:22:10will probably come

00:22:10in the days

00:22:11and weeks after

00:22:12Stephen Smith

00:22:13spoke to the

00:22:14media

00:22:14Sorry Ali

00:22:17we cut you off

00:22:17there

00:22:18you're in the

00:22:19studio

00:22:20but Stephen

00:22:20Smith here

00:22:21obviously

00:22:21talking about

00:22:22how he's going

00:22:22to feel about

00:22:23it

00:22:23it'll be a

00:22:23great day

00:22:24and one that

00:22:25I think he'll

00:22:26remember for

00:22:27many a long

00:22:28time

00:22:29where his career

00:22:30takes him

00:22:30after that

00:22:31who knows

00:22:33so give us

00:22:34your thoughts

00:22:34who do you

00:22:35think is going

00:22:35to win it

00:22:35Rangers

00:22:35Dundee United

00:22:36is there an

00:22:37upset there

00:22:37at Ibrox

00:22:38will the fans

00:22:39get right behind

00:22:40the team

00:22:40on the basis

00:22:41that they know

00:22:42that there's an

00:22:42incoming manager

00:22:43what do you make

00:22:44of that

00:22:44incoming manager

00:22:44is he going

00:22:45to be the

00:22:46real deal

00:22:46is this finally

00:22:47the right choice

00:22:48it's a big

00:22:48choice for

00:22:49Rangers to

00:22:50make and

00:22:51as everyone

00:22:52on the panel

00:22:52has said

00:22:53got to get

00:22:54this one right

00:22:54but is the

00:22:55season a right

00:22:56offer do you

00:22:56think Rangers

00:22:57can go on a

00:22:57long run

00:22:58Charlie Adam

00:23:00was on in

00:23:00midweek and

00:23:01he reckons that

00:23:02when he comes

00:23:03in Rangers

00:23:04will go on a

00:23:04run and

00:23:05catch hearts

00:23:06and be

00:23:08second at

00:23:09least in the

00:23:10table

00:23:10he also said

00:23:12that Odds and

00:23:12Edward is still

00:23:13only worth

00:23:13350 grand

00:23:15and Morelos

00:23:15is worth

00:23:1630 million

00:23:16I think it'll

00:23:19depend how

00:23:20many points

00:23:20are behind

00:23:21when he

00:23:21eventually does

00:23:21come in

00:23:22because you're

00:23:22talking as

00:23:23Alisson said

00:23:24middle of

00:23:24November

00:23:24there's a few

00:23:25games before

00:23:26then

00:23:26if Rangers

00:23:27don't pick up

00:23:27full points

00:23:28and hearts and

00:23:29Celtic keep

00:23:30picking up the

00:23:30points and

00:23:30there could be

00:23:3110-15 points

00:23:32behind which is a

00:23:32big gap

00:23:33we're going to

00:23:34get to hearts

00:23:35in a minute

00:23:35but Dundee

00:23:36against Celtic

00:23:37Maida's out

00:23:38Alistair Johnson's

00:23:39back in

00:23:39good news roughly

00:23:41for Brendan

00:23:41Rogers there

00:23:42this is what he

00:23:43had to say

00:23:43ahead of this

00:23:44one

00:23:44I think every

00:23:45team that

00:23:45changes manager

00:23:46you can always

00:23:46accept and take

00:23:47on that challenge

00:23:48of new ideas

00:23:49and that freshness

00:23:50that they may

00:23:50bring

00:23:51obviously he's

00:23:51getting ready

00:23:52for possibly

00:23:53Kevin Muscat

00:23:55I don't know

00:23:55Kevin that well

00:23:56but I came across

00:23:56him a few times

00:23:57when I was at

00:23:58Liverpool

00:23:58he's done a

00:23:58really good job

00:23:59in the teams

00:24:00that he's been

00:24:00at in Asia

00:24:02if he's to be

00:24:03the new manager

00:24:03coming in then

00:24:04it's another new

00:24:04challenge as I

00:24:05said for us

00:24:06we'll be ready

00:24:07and that point

00:24:08that he's making

00:24:09Ruffy is really

00:24:11the key to this

00:24:12whereas fans

00:24:14rightly get

00:24:14excited about a

00:24:15new man coming

00:24:16in and then ask

00:24:17the questions of

00:24:17the board to

00:24:18back him

00:24:18none of that

00:24:21has an effect

00:24:22on the other

00:24:22sides who have

00:24:24to look at

00:24:24themselves and

00:24:25Celtic are not

00:24:26going to stand

00:24:27still hearts

00:24:28they're obviously

00:24:29going to look to

00:24:29respond in their

00:24:31own way

00:24:32Celtic at this

00:24:33moment have got

00:24:34their own troubles

00:24:35to seek with

00:24:36their fan base

00:24:37and we'll talk

00:24:37about that shortly

00:24:38but nevertheless

00:24:39for his final

00:24:40season Brendan

00:24:41Rodgers has got

00:24:42a chance to see

00:24:43off Rangers and

00:24:44his biggest battle

00:24:45is with the

00:24:46Jambos

00:24:46yeah well he's

00:24:47certainly seen

00:24:48off and off

00:24:48Rangers managers

00:24:49I don't know

00:24:50what that head

00:24:50count is

00:24:51the Rangers

00:24:51managers that

00:24:52have come in

00:24:52but yeah I

00:24:54think hearts

00:24:54at this moment

00:24:55in time could

00:24:56cause a problem

00:24:57it depends on

00:24:58how consistent

00:24:59they're going to

00:24:59be in the next

00:25:00couple of months

00:25:01obviously they've

00:25:01got big games

00:25:02coming up

00:25:02one of them

00:25:03Celtic

00:25:03and it'll be

00:25:05interesting you

00:25:06know if they

00:25:06can do it a bit

00:25:07I think we all

00:25:08agree we want

00:25:08somebody challenging

00:25:09both of them

00:25:10whether splitting

00:25:11them or whatever

00:25:12so it's encouraging

00:25:14that they are

00:25:14winning games

00:25:15you know but I

00:25:16say that I

00:25:17personally don't

00:25:17think they can

00:25:18contain it for

00:25:19the whole season

00:25:20yeah what about

00:25:21Celtic Ali

00:25:23because we're

00:25:24about to talk

00:25:25about the fan

00:25:25unrest which is

00:25:26continuing and

00:25:28I have to say

00:25:29you know over

00:25:30and above that

00:25:30apart from the

00:25:31fact that there's

00:25:32a real breakdown

00:25:33and not only

00:25:34communications but

00:25:35there's a real

00:25:36displeasure among

00:25:37the Celtic support

00:25:38for a number of

00:25:40problems that they

00:25:40see with this

00:25:41current board and

00:25:42they want three

00:25:43of them out

00:25:43Chris Mackay

00:25:44Michael Nicholson

00:25:46Peter Lowell

00:25:46I personally think

00:25:49the Celtic fans

00:25:49should be applauded

00:25:50for at least

00:25:50getting together

00:25:51and highlighting

00:25:51the problems

00:25:52I don't think

00:25:54they'll get

00:25:54anywhere

00:25:54that's my own

00:25:56personal opinion

00:25:56on it I think

00:25:57this board

00:25:57has a ruthlessness

00:26:00and arrogance

00:26:01and they are

00:26:04locked tight

00:26:04when it comes

00:26:05to you know

00:26:07where they're

00:26:07going with their

00:26:08strategy and

00:26:09they've certainly

00:26:09shown disdain

00:26:11towards certain

00:26:12sections of the

00:26:13support because

00:26:14as you know

00:26:14all of these

00:26:16groups that have

00:26:16come together

00:26:17they don't

00:26:17represent everybody

00:26:18you can't say

00:26:19that these groups

00:26:20collectively are

00:26:21all the Celtic

00:26:23support there

00:26:23are some people

00:26:24I think rightly

00:26:25so have an

00:26:27opinion which

00:26:27favours the

00:26:28board in what

00:26:29they're doing

00:26:29and I think you

00:26:30have to and I

00:26:31always try and

00:26:32offer the balance

00:26:33on this you

00:26:34have to compliment

00:26:35the board for

00:26:36the way they've

00:26:36gone about their

00:26:37business as a

00:26:38business they've

00:26:39made mistakes

00:26:40which I think

00:26:41they need to be

00:26:41called to account

00:26:42for but there

00:26:43are lots of

00:26:44positives that

00:26:45they see and

00:26:46they think that

00:26:47they're being

00:26:48missed in this

00:26:49whole argument

00:26:49yeah I think

00:26:51I thought the

00:26:53note that came

00:26:55out or the

00:26:55notes that came

00:26:56out after they

00:26:57met a couple

00:26:59of weeks ago

00:26:59I thought Celtic

00:27:00released a

00:27:01statement that

00:27:02tried to be

00:27:03conciliatory

00:27:04it accepted

00:27:05that the summer

00:27:07window wasn't

00:27:07good enough and

00:27:08I think that

00:27:08summer window

00:27:09has been the

00:27:10catalyst for so

00:27:11much of the

00:27:12unrest that

00:27:13you've seen

00:27:14across the last

00:27:14month or so

00:27:15and I think

00:27:16much of that

00:27:17unrest has

00:27:17bubbled

00:27:18underneath the

00:27:18surface for a

00:27:19long time

00:27:20way beyond

00:27:21this summer

00:27:22you can go

00:27:22all the way

00:27:23back to the

00:27:24Covid season

00:27:24of some of

00:27:25that bubbling

00:27:26under the

00:27:26surface and

00:27:27it came to

00:27:27the fore

00:27:27because of

00:27:28two reasons

00:27:28the failure

00:27:30to add to

00:27:31the squad

00:27:31over the

00:27:33summer and

00:27:35then the

00:27:35failure to

00:27:36beat Cara

00:27:37and Watte

00:27:37and make it

00:27:38into the

00:27:38Champions League

00:27:39and it

00:27:39created a

00:27:41storm that

00:27:42doesn't look

00:27:42as though it's

00:27:43going to

00:27:43dissipate any

00:27:44time soon

00:27:45the campaign

00:27:46that was

00:27:46announced today

00:27:47not a penny

00:27:48more I think

00:27:48it's called

00:27:49about not

00:27:49giving the

00:27:50club any

00:27:51money in

00:27:52terms of

00:27:52merchandised

00:27:53food etc

00:27:55suggests that

00:27:57it's going to

00:27:57rumble on

00:27:58I'm struggling

00:27:58to see where

00:28:00it ends

00:28:00I'm struggling

00:28:01to see what

00:28:02the final

00:28:03outcome can

00:28:05be because I

00:28:05don't think

00:28:06it will create

00:28:07significant

00:28:08change at

00:28:10boardroom level

00:28:11I don't think

00:28:12that will come

00:28:13to freshen

00:28:13and I think

00:28:13that is what

00:28:14their ultimate

00:28:15aim is and

00:28:17I do wonder

00:28:18just what

00:28:19effect it

00:28:19has on the

00:28:20atmosphere in

00:28:21terms of being

00:28:22within the

00:28:22stadium of

00:28:23playing in it

00:28:24of results I

00:28:26think you can

00:28:26sense the

00:28:27hangover around

00:28:28the club just

00:28:29now when you

00:28:30go in it's

00:28:30the sourness

00:28:32across the

00:28:33summer months I

00:28:34think just hangs

00:28:35in the air

00:28:35just now

00:28:36yeah it's

00:28:37not any

00:28:37different from

00:28:38his first time

00:28:39around you know

00:28:39manager is well

00:28:41peeved and

00:28:42he's hiding it

00:28:44well putting on

00:28:45a bright face

00:28:46possibly conducting

00:28:49the press

00:28:49conferences the

00:28:50way that he's

00:28:51had meetings

00:28:51with the board

00:28:52to try and

00:28:53you know hide

00:28:54his displeasure

00:28:55of the whole

00:28:56thing

00:28:56yeah but his

00:28:58team is playing

00:28:59the exact same

00:28:59way he feels

00:29:01they look as

00:29:01if they're

00:29:02scunnered

00:29:03yeah and

00:29:03Arsene's right

00:29:04it's going to

00:29:05affect the

00:29:05atmosphere I

00:29:06think it's

00:29:06Celtic Park

00:29:07Peter and

00:29:07that's not good

00:29:08for the players

00:29:09it's not good

00:29:09for the manager

00:29:09it's not good

00:29:10for the team

00:29:10it starts to

00:29:11affect the

00:29:12players

00:29:12then they've

00:29:13got to look

00:29:14at maybe

00:29:14stopping it

00:29:14but yeah I

00:29:15think the

00:29:16Celtic supporters

00:29:17are well within

00:29:17their rights

00:29:17to continue

00:29:18this campaign

00:29:19you know I

00:29:20seen at the

00:29:21Celtic club

00:29:22store today

00:29:22those big

00:29:23queues you

00:29:24know wanting

00:29:25to buy

00:29:25merchandise I

00:29:26don't know if

00:29:26it's getting

00:29:26through to the

00:29:27majority but

00:29:27as you both

00:29:29touched on

00:29:30what is the

00:29:30end game here

00:29:31you know I

00:29:32don't it's

00:29:32going to be

00:29:33this and then

00:29:34it will drift

00:29:35away and

00:29:35they'll just

00:29:35get on with

00:29:36it or is

00:29:36going to be

00:29:37real change

00:29:37it's probably

00:29:38just going to

00:29:38drift away for

00:29:39me

00:29:39I think a lot

00:29:39of the

00:29:40collective

00:29:40my gut feeling

00:29:41on this is a

00:29:42lot of the

00:29:42collective will

00:29:43try and at

00:29:44some point

00:29:45gather in as

00:29:45many shares

00:29:46as they

00:29:47possibly can

00:29:48and try and

00:29:49structure their

00:29:50battle that way

00:29:51whether that's

00:29:52enough of the

00:29:54shares that they

00:29:54can get a hold

00:29:55of to suddenly

00:29:55have a major

00:29:57group that can

00:29:58you know upset

00:29:59the apple cart

00:30:00powerful voice

00:30:01as a single

00:30:01entity

00:30:02I'm not sure

00:30:03I'm not sure

00:30:04if they're able

00:30:04to pull that

00:30:05off I

00:30:05certainly wouldn't

00:30:05rule it out

00:30:06but the Celtic

00:30:07fan collective

00:30:08as you rightly

00:30:08pointed out

00:30:09have released

00:30:09this statement

00:30:10early today

00:30:12not another

00:30:13penny campaign

00:30:14for too long

00:30:16the Celtic

00:30:16board has

00:30:16taken supporters

00:30:17for granted

00:30:18they are

00:30:18responsible for

00:30:19repeated failures

00:30:20in Europe

00:30:20an archaic

00:30:21transfer strategy

00:30:22a collection

00:30:23of non-executive

00:30:25directors

00:30:25which they've

00:30:26abbreviated here

00:30:27to Neds

00:30:28who have

00:30:29grossly outstayed

00:30:30their welcome

00:30:30inflated ticket

00:30:32prices and

00:30:33unfair distribution

00:30:34a neglected

00:30:35stadium

00:30:35a stale

00:30:36atmosphere

00:30:36a non-existent

00:30:38fan engagement

00:30:38model

00:30:39an underperforming

00:30:40academy

00:30:40an underfunded

00:30:41women's team

00:30:42and a pitch

00:30:43unfit for playing

00:30:44football the Celtic

00:30:45way

00:30:45I think they've

00:30:46fairly caught

00:30:48most of the

00:30:49things that I

00:30:49think

00:30:50over a 13

00:30:53year period

00:30:53on this programme

00:30:54Ruffy I've

00:30:55mentioned to you

00:30:55season in

00:30:56season out

00:30:57Ali puts it

00:30:58to the

00:30:58Covid season

00:30:59I put it

00:31:00long long

00:31:00before that

00:31:01a lot of

00:31:01Celtic fans

00:31:02are disgruntled

00:31:03with him

00:31:03and I

00:31:03noticed

00:31:04Neil Lennon

00:31:04has come

00:31:05out and

00:31:05basically said

00:31:07that they

00:31:09should be

00:31:10careful what

00:31:10they wish

00:31:11for because

00:31:11Dermott and

00:31:12the rest of

00:31:13the board

00:31:13are the best

00:31:16men for the

00:31:16job which is

00:31:17perfectly within

00:31:17his rights to

00:31:18say that

00:31:18I do think

00:31:19they've got

00:31:20real positives

00:31:21Ruffy

00:31:21I don't think

00:31:22this is a

00:31:22you can't have

00:31:23a hatchet job

00:31:24against them

00:31:24because their

00:31:25stats back

00:31:25them up

00:31:26I'm surprised

00:31:27at a lot

00:31:27of these

00:31:28things that

00:31:28they're not

00:31:28happy with

00:31:29I think the

00:31:29main things

00:31:30as Alison's

00:31:31touched on

00:31:31there is

00:31:32obviously the

00:31:32transfer window

00:31:33and getting

00:31:34knocked out

00:31:34of the

00:31:34Champions League

00:31:35I think

00:31:36that's an

00:31:37isolated incident

00:31:37no no no I

00:31:39think that's the

00:31:40main crux of

00:31:41the whole thing

00:31:42I'm surprised

00:31:42of the other

00:31:44stuff that

00:31:44they've added

00:31:45in because

00:31:46they're things

00:31:46that we've

00:31:47never thrown

00:31:49against Celtic

00:31:49the women's

00:31:50team and all

00:31:51that the pitch

00:31:52and everything

00:31:52like that I

00:31:53think they're

00:31:53just extras

00:31:54that are thrown

00:31:55in I think the

00:31:56main thing is

00:31:57the signing

00:31:58policy and

00:31:59getting put

00:32:00out of Europe

00:32:01I think there's

00:32:01an interesting

00:32:02point about the

00:32:02academy I

00:32:03think if you

00:32:03could look at it

00:32:04you would say

00:32:04the academy

00:32:05structure at

00:32:06Celtic has

00:32:07probably been

00:32:07fairly successful

00:32:08but the challenge

00:32:09that they have

00:32:10is trying to

00:32:11stand firm

00:32:12when you have

00:32:13clubs from

00:32:14England who

00:32:15come in and

00:32:16can cherry pick

00:32:16youngsters at

00:32:1817, 18 and

00:32:20say here is a

00:32:21massive amount

00:32:22of money 10

00:32:23grand a week to

00:32:24come and play

00:32:25in our reserve

00:32:26it's very very

00:32:26difficult to

00:32:27compete

00:32:28how many of

00:32:29them have

00:32:29gone to

00:32:30you could pick

00:32:30Doak, Cummings

00:32:32who else

00:32:34Rocco Vata

00:32:36the boy that

00:32:36went to

00:32:37Bayern Munich

00:32:38but I think

00:32:39they're looking

00:32:40at the overall

00:32:41academy

00:32:42but I think

00:32:44the landscape

00:32:44for any

00:32:45Scottish team

00:32:46I do think

00:32:46there is a

00:32:47challenge

00:32:47you can't

00:32:47have a

00:32:48smokescreen

00:32:48and an

00:32:48excuse for

00:32:49every one

00:32:49of these

00:32:50situations

00:32:50what has

00:32:51happened

00:32:51with the

00:32:52academy

00:32:52is it

00:32:53delivering

00:32:54enough

00:32:54who's the

00:32:55last player

00:32:55from the

00:32:55academy

00:32:56that's come

00:32:57through on

00:32:57a regular

00:32:58basis

00:32:58I think you

00:32:58could say

00:32:59that about

00:32:59everyone

00:32:59in the

00:33:00Scottish team

00:33:00I know that

00:33:01I think you

00:33:01could look at

00:33:02that

00:33:02Celtic spend a

00:33:02lot of money

00:33:03on their

00:33:03academy

00:33:03I don't think

00:33:07you can look

00:33:07at it in

00:33:08isolation

00:33:08I think you

00:33:09have to look

00:33:10at it as

00:33:10part of a

00:33:11bigger picture

00:33:11it's not as

00:33:13easy as saying

00:33:14we create

00:33:14talent who

00:33:15just go all

00:33:15the way

00:33:15into the

00:33:16first team

00:33:16because there

00:33:17are so many

00:33:18different issues

00:33:18that affect

00:33:19players'

00:33:19progress

00:33:20you maybe

00:33:20spend £11

00:33:21million on

00:33:22a player

00:33:23like Engels

00:33:24you're under

00:33:24pressure then

00:33:25to give him

00:33:26a chance

00:33:26to play him

00:33:27even though

00:33:27you might

00:33:28have a

00:33:29kid in the

00:33:30reserves

00:33:30who's

00:33:31roughly

00:33:31maybe at

00:33:33that stage

00:33:33at another

00:33:34club

00:33:34you might

00:33:35be getting

00:33:35game time

00:33:36you've got

00:33:36to remember

00:33:36you think

00:33:38it's working

00:33:39I didn't say

00:33:40that

00:33:40I said it's

00:33:40camouflaged

00:33:41I think

00:33:42to say it's

00:33:42underperforming

00:33:43is probably

00:33:44unfair

00:33:44I think if

00:33:47you delve

00:33:48into it

00:33:48you could

00:33:49pick up

00:33:49the wee

00:33:50boy Donovan

00:33:51looks a good

00:33:51player

00:33:52the wee

00:33:53boy Kenny

00:33:53strength

00:33:54forward

00:33:55there are

00:33:58players like

00:33:58that I

00:33:59suppose ready

00:33:59to break

00:34:00through

00:34:01but I

00:34:02just think

00:34:02if they were

00:34:04still in the

00:34:05Champions League

00:34:05we'd be talking

00:34:06about all that

00:34:07we know the

00:34:08transfer window

00:34:09was a mess

00:34:10but I think

00:34:11they're just

00:34:11going a wee bit

00:34:12overboard now

00:34:13I think they're

00:34:14just going a bit

00:34:14overboard

00:34:15well

00:34:15wow

00:34:17let me ask you

00:34:18this

00:34:19if they'd

00:34:20beaten

00:34:20Gaia

00:34:20Almaty

00:34:21do you think

00:34:21they'd have

00:34:22forgotten about

00:34:23the fact

00:34:23that

00:34:23no they

00:34:23wouldn't have

00:34:24forgotten about

00:34:24the transfer window

00:34:27that is

00:34:27done and

00:34:28dusted

00:34:29but the other

00:34:29stuff that you've

00:34:30thrown in there

00:34:30at the end

00:34:31I don't think

00:34:32I don't think

00:34:33I don't think

00:34:33it's a collision

00:34:34no I know

00:34:34I know

00:34:35but I don't

00:34:35I think if you

00:34:37done a survey

00:34:37I would love to

00:34:38know the percentage

00:34:39that agree with

00:34:40that

00:34:40of Celtic's

00:34:42support

00:34:42reference the

00:34:43women's team

00:34:43how many Celtic

00:34:45fans turn out

00:34:45and support

00:34:46the women's team

00:34:46I cover women's

00:34:48football I see

00:34:49how undersupported

00:34:49it is by every

00:34:51faction

00:34:51so even when

00:34:52Celtic won the

00:34:53league when that

00:34:54women's team won

00:34:54the league in a

00:34:55historic season

00:34:56and the very

00:34:56first time that

00:34:57they won the

00:34:58league there's so

00:34:59few people there

00:35:00Celtic were in the

00:35:01champions the

00:35:02women's team were in

00:35:02the champions league

00:35:03for the first

00:35:03we're arguing over

00:35:05two or three points

00:35:06which are totally

00:35:06but what we're

00:35:07saying is it's

00:35:08becoming a

00:35:09cumulative effect

00:35:10of here are all

00:35:12the grievances

00:35:13here and they're

00:35:14all coming to the

00:35:14floor

00:35:15I think the

00:35:15academy's

00:35:15underperforming

00:35:16I would agree

00:35:16with Peter

00:35:17I think the

00:35:18Celtic academy's

00:35:19underperforming

00:35:20I've watched

00:35:20them at under

00:35:2016s, 17s,

00:35:2118s, 19s level

00:35:23I don't think

00:35:23they're the best

00:35:25Tam the reward

00:35:30is you look at

00:35:32the percentage of

00:35:32players who are

00:35:33coming through

00:35:33who've come from

00:35:34the academy

00:35:34and take Alison's

00:35:36point it's hard

00:35:38at every academy

00:35:38to blood players

00:35:40but if you look

00:35:42over a sustained

00:35:42period of what

00:35:4310, 20 years

00:35:44and say how many

00:35:45players have come

00:35:46through from the

00:35:46academy and then

00:35:48you monitor it and

00:35:49say how much have

00:35:49you spent, is it a

00:35:51success, should they

00:35:52be demanding more

00:35:53but again I think

00:35:54there's a point

00:35:55here that Ali's

00:35:55saying about this

00:35:56they're throwing

00:35:57everything into the

00:35:58mix, I think

00:36:00there's a wee bit

00:36:00of that, I think

00:36:01there's a bit of

00:36:02let's throw

00:36:02everything in

00:36:03It's like having

00:36:03an argument with

00:36:04your partner and

00:36:05then shouting

00:36:05and another thing

00:36:06Oh absolutely

00:36:07but can I tell you

00:36:08something

00:36:08You never brought

00:36:09the bin in

00:36:09You're right

00:36:10Absolutely

00:36:11I have actually

00:36:13I'm not going to

00:36:14say it because I'll

00:36:15get killed

00:36:15Anyway

00:36:16No no

00:36:17But I was going

00:36:18to say this

00:36:19the core of what

00:36:21the Celtic fans are

00:36:22unhappy with is the

00:36:23thing that made

00:36:24the manager unhappy

00:36:25first time around

00:36:26and second time

00:36:27around and the

00:36:28previous managers

00:36:28apart from Ange

00:36:29Postacoglu who was

00:36:30a quick appointment

00:36:31after they'd made

00:36:32a back end of the

00:36:33Eddie Howe deal

00:36:34which they wouldn't

00:36:34allow him to bring

00:36:35in his own team

00:36:36they wanted their

00:36:37own people still in

00:36:39there to control

00:36:41things

00:36:41Previous managers

00:36:43before that and a

00:36:44strategy has left

00:36:46them peeved

00:36:47It's not a unique

00:36:48thing, it's not

00:36:49going back to

00:36:50Covid, it's going

00:36:51way beyond that

00:36:52it's a recurring

00:36:53theme of last

00:36:54minute transfers

00:36:55last minute deals

00:36:56poor recruitment

00:36:57at times and for

00:36:59every, I always

00:37:00said this, for

00:37:01every Victor

00:37:02Wanyama there are

00:37:03nine or ten other

00:37:04players that haven't

00:37:06cut it and the

00:37:07point here is

00:37:09they've been sold

00:37:10a narrative which

00:37:10is you can't

00:37:11compete in European

00:37:12football and that

00:37:14part of it is where

00:37:15the Celtic fans are

00:37:16unhappy, they've

00:37:17looked at it and

00:37:17said you never

00:37:18backed the manager

00:37:19then, this is a

00:37:20recurring thing, you've

00:37:21done it before

00:37:22relentlessly and this

00:37:23board, I think to

00:37:26offer the balance on

00:37:27it Tam, have got a

00:37:28number of things

00:37:29right, it's a well

00:37:30run business but

00:37:32somehow along the

00:37:33way Celtic fans want

00:37:35it to be, have a bit

00:37:36of ambition, buy

00:37:38players early, don't

00:37:39give them excuses

00:37:40because every other

00:37:42club has to work

00:37:43under difficult

00:37:44parameters, go and

00:37:46get some people that

00:37:47are not projects that

00:37:48can enhance this

00:37:49side.

00:37:50Yeah, I think you

00:37:50see with the new

00:37:51Champions League

00:37:52format that Celtic

00:37:53were in last season

00:37:53there's a real

00:37:54opportunity for a

00:37:55Celtic or a Porto

00:37:56or a Benfica, a

00:37:57so-called smaller

00:37:58club in that arena

00:37:59to go and do well

00:38:00and get into the

00:38:01knockout stages and

00:38:01I think Celtic

00:38:02has seen the two

00:38:03legs against Bayern

00:38:03Munich and

00:38:04thought, it's

00:38:05Bayern Munich and

00:38:06we're giving him a

00:38:07game of our two

00:38:07legs, now's a chance

00:38:09to go and kick on

00:38:10in the summer and

00:38:10go again next

00:38:11season, forget

00:38:12Cairo Almaty, we

00:38:14should be looking to

00:38:14try and get into

00:38:15the last 16 or the

00:38:16last 8, you know

00:38:17feedback the manager

00:38:17and that never

00:38:18happened, Peter, so

00:38:18I think that's where

00:38:19the problems are

00:38:20coming from.

00:38:21They didn't back

00:38:21bending Rodgers in

00:38:22the summer when

00:38:23he's probably went

00:38:24listen, if you want

00:38:24us to go and get

00:38:25to that level again

00:38:26or go further, I

00:38:27need this, this,

00:38:28this and this,

00:38:29he ended up getting

00:38:30probably nothing.

00:38:31The other problem is

00:38:32just the staleness

00:38:33across the team, it

00:38:35feels stale, it

00:38:36feels like there are

00:38:37too many players that

00:38:39are there too long

00:38:41and are playing too

00:38:42many games, you're

00:38:43relying on the same

00:38:44players.

00:38:45This season it

00:38:46feels very much of

00:38:47going through the

00:38:48motions, that it's

00:38:49felt turgid, it's

00:38:51like watching a team

00:38:52running on empty, it

00:38:54feels there is

00:38:55nothing fresh about

00:38:57it, all the energy

00:38:57has drained from

00:38:59that team.

00:39:00It's in sharp

00:39:01contrast to the kind

00:39:02of football that

00:39:03Brendan Rodgers was

00:39:04known for at his

00:39:06time at Celtic, coming

00:39:06in and saying that we

00:39:07play fast, aggressive,

00:39:09purposeful football, it

00:39:11just seems very side

00:39:13to side, flat and

00:39:15flat, the whole thing

00:39:16seems flat.

00:39:16The other thing as

00:39:17well, there's a lot

00:39:19of people, a lot of

00:39:19players there now

00:39:20don't want to be

00:39:21there, that's never

00:39:22been the case two or

00:39:23three years ago.

00:39:24No, you're wrong

00:39:24Ruffy, that was the

00:39:25case when he was

00:39:26there the first time

00:39:27I'm talking about

00:39:27the players, I'm

00:39:28talking about the

00:39:29players themselves.

00:39:31I'm saying the

00:39:32players, there's

00:39:33like Hatati, I

00:39:34don't think, wants

00:39:34another move, Maïda

00:39:36wants it, Jota

00:39:37goes, thing may go,

00:39:39they're all, it's

00:39:40OK, but it's OK

00:39:41them saying, yeah

00:39:43we're a selling

00:39:44club, I think a lot

00:39:45of supporters are

00:39:45saying, why are we

00:39:46a selling club?

00:39:47We've got so much

00:39:48money, why do we

00:39:49need to sell these

00:39:49best players?

00:39:50I've no problem

00:39:51with that Ruffy, I've

00:39:52no problem with

00:39:52every club in

00:39:54Scotland and some

00:39:55down south, I've

00:39:56got players that

00:39:57will come to your

00:39:58club and they'll

00:39:58want to move on

00:39:59because they've

00:40:00put in a shift and

00:40:02they've been sold

00:40:03this, listen, do

00:40:05well here, clubs

00:40:06will meet your

00:40:07stepping stone.

00:40:08It's part of the

00:40:08marketing strategy.

00:40:09But the whole

00:40:10aspect of this, which

00:40:12I think a lot of

00:40:12people are looking

00:40:13at is, the

00:40:15recruitment's poor, the

00:40:17timing of the

00:40:17recruitment at times

00:40:18is poor and the

00:40:20whole blueprint

00:40:21here, Brendan

00:40:21Rodgers did not

00:40:22sign all those

00:40:23players, I don't

00:40:24care if somebody's

00:40:25put out that he's

00:40:26got a last and

00:40:27final say on it, he

00:40:28wanted three quality

00:40:29players and he gave

00:40:30them the evidence to

00:40:32say, why wouldn't

00:40:32you back me?

00:40:33Look at the

00:40:34performance against

00:40:34Bayern Munich, look

00:40:36at the way Celtic

00:40:37played, that is

00:40:38evidence enough

00:40:39for them to say

00:40:40back him, take

00:40:41him to another

00:40:42level, don't spend

00:40:4314, 15 million a

00:40:44player, no Celtic

00:40:45fan in his right

00:40:46mind has said that

00:40:47to them, they've

00:40:48just said better

00:40:49player recruitment

00:40:50and stop keep

00:40:51buying 1.5 million

00:40:53pound projects and

00:40:54some of your

00:40:55recruitment that you

00:40:55spent 9 million on

00:40:56was a knee-jerk

00:40:57quick reaction on

00:40:58Ida and the

00:40:59other one, Engels,

00:41:01hasn't stepped up

00:41:02to the plate at

00:41:03all.

00:41:03I think they'd

00:41:04see if they'd

00:41:04sell Engels

00:41:04right now, they

00:41:05struggle to get

00:41:067 or 8 million

00:41:07for him.

00:41:08I think he's been

00:41:08sucked.

00:41:09That's why I'm

00:41:09saying they should

00:41:10protest on these

00:41:11facts, they should

00:41:12protest on everything

00:41:13you've said there,

00:41:14not talking about

00:41:14the pitches on

00:41:15Blabel and

00:41:16Academy.

00:41:16That's just another

00:41:20smokescreen,

00:41:21Alison's right,

00:41:23three or four of

00:41:23them have been

00:41:24added in and

00:41:24they've cooked the

00:41:25cake up, you're

00:41:26absolutely right,

00:41:26I'll need to speak

00:41:27to Fred about

00:41:28obviously he's

00:41:29taken out the

00:41:30bin in good

00:41:30faith, put out

00:41:31the blue bin and

00:41:32it's a bloody

00:41:33black bin day.

00:41:34Do you know what

00:41:34I mean, I've had

00:41:35that time, you

00:41:36can't win, you

00:41:37know what I mean?

00:41:37You're making

00:41:38your dinner, any

00:41:39chat?

00:41:40No, I'm looking

00:41:41after the kids as

00:41:42well, calm down.

00:41:45It's one of those.

00:41:47Give us your

00:41:48thoughts.

00:41:48Celtic, are they

00:41:50going to win?

00:41:51Stephen Presley

00:41:52thinks it's a good

00:41:53time to play them

00:41:53because they're

00:41:55there to be got

00:41:56at.

00:41:57Motherwell proved

00:41:57it, if it hadn't

00:41:58have been for that

00:42:00chaotic goalkeeper

00:42:01from your union,

00:42:02they might have

00:42:02got three points.

00:42:03Yeah, they might

00:42:04have been bad, I

00:42:04don't think Dundee

00:42:05are anywhere near

00:42:06Motherwell, you

00:42:07know, I think

00:42:07unfortunately I

00:42:08read about a

00:42:09start this morning

00:42:10that the last

00:42:10time that Dundee

00:42:11won against Celtic

00:42:12at Dens Park

00:42:13was in 1988

00:42:14when a certain

00:42:16goalkeeper was

00:42:17playing for

00:42:17Celtic, unfortunately.

00:42:19Did you play

00:42:20that day?

00:42:21Yeah.

00:42:22Was it a cross

00:42:24ball?

00:42:24No, I bet

00:42:26you can get

00:42:26the goal

00:42:27scorer.

00:42:28Albert Kidd?

00:42:29No.

00:42:30It's in my

00:42:31mind, sorry,

00:42:31anyway.

00:42:32Tommy Coyne.

00:42:33Well done.

00:42:34Yeah.

00:42:351-0.

00:42:361-0.

00:42:371-0.

00:42:38I've still got my

00:42:39man in the

00:42:39match trophy.

00:42:40You at fault?

00:42:41Not at all,

00:42:41not, it was

00:42:42Big Roy.

00:42:42Yeah.

00:42:44It's funny you

00:42:47say that.

00:42:48Roy Aikens came

00:42:48in for an

00:42:49absolute power

00:42:49this week.

00:42:50David Moyes

00:42:51picked his

00:42:51five-and-seight team

00:42:52and said Big

00:42:52Roy's a sub.

00:42:54I thought we

00:42:54will be happy

00:42:55with that by

00:42:55the way.

00:42:56Anyway, Celtic

00:42:59against it, I

00:42:59mean, listen,

00:43:00Dundee at the

00:43:01best of times

00:43:02this season, he's

00:43:03trying to get a

00:43:04side that can

00:43:04maybe get a few

00:43:06out.

00:43:07Simon Murray's a

00:43:08problem, he's

00:43:08going to have a

00:43:08late fitness on

00:43:09him, but he

00:43:11hasn't had a

00:43:12smooth run and

00:43:13he wants players

00:43:14back from injury,

00:43:15he wants to try

00:43:15and mould the

00:43:16team.

00:43:17Meanwhile, he's

00:43:17also suffering

00:43:18from the Russell

00:43:19Martin effect,

00:43:20which is fans

00:43:21don't like him.

00:43:21From the very

00:43:22off, you're

00:43:23swimming against

00:43:23the tide and

00:43:24it's been a

00:43:24tough season.

00:43:25I think I

00:43:26don't see them

00:43:27really getting

00:43:27out the bit

00:43:29over the course

00:43:29of the campaign.

00:43:30I think they'll

00:43:30be down at the

00:43:31bottom end of

00:43:32the table.

00:43:33I think Celtic

00:43:34will prevail on

00:43:35Sunday.

00:43:35I think they'll

00:43:36win it, come

00:43:37away from

00:43:37Dens Park with

00:43:38all three points,

00:43:39but I think

00:43:39it'll be

00:43:40awkward, I

00:43:41don't see it

00:43:41as a fluent

00:43:43straightforward

00:43:44afternoon for

00:43:45them, I

00:43:45think they'll

00:43:45probably have

00:43:46to grind it

00:43:47out.

00:43:48I think the

00:43:49opposite for

00:43:49Alison, I

00:43:50think they'll

00:43:50do them

00:43:503-0.

00:43:51Dundee?

00:43:52Yeah, I

00:43:53think they're

00:43:54still creating

00:43:54the chances.

00:43:55Dundee will

00:43:56beat Celtic

00:43:563-0.

00:43:56Celtic against

00:43:5726 shots

00:43:59ago, at some

00:44:00stage, they're

00:44:01going to hit the

00:44:06back of the net

00:44:06sometime and

00:44:07Dundee are

00:44:08going to get

00:44:09it on the

00:44:09weekend.

00:44:10I don't see

00:44:11that, Peter, I'm

00:44:12the opposite of

00:44:12that.

00:44:13I did call

00:44:13Motherwell, because

00:44:15Motherwell play,

00:44:16open and

00:44:16expansive, I

00:44:16think Dundee

00:44:18will sit in,

00:44:19I think they'll

00:44:21sit in and

00:44:21try and make

00:44:22Celtic break

00:44:23them down.

00:44:23I don't see

00:44:23anything for

00:44:23this Celtic

00:44:24team coming

00:44:25up against a

00:44:26packed defence

00:44:27that goes

00:44:27as they're

00:44:28going to take

00:44:28three or four

00:44:28off of them,

00:44:29so I think

00:44:30this might be

00:44:30a 1-0 Celtic or

00:44:32a 2-1 Celtic.

00:44:32The other

00:44:34thing, obviously

00:44:35a big advice

00:44:36to maybe the

00:44:37Dundee people

00:44:38who are out

00:44:39selling macaroon

00:44:39bars and

00:44:40chewing gums,

00:44:40there'll be

00:44:40none bought,

00:44:41not a penny,

00:44:43there'll be

00:44:43nothing, there's

00:44:44no spending

00:44:44on anything,

00:44:45even though it's

00:44:46dead.

00:44:46But someone

00:44:46else's

00:44:47studio.

00:44:47Eh?

00:44:48Someone else's

00:44:48studio.

00:44:48I know,

00:44:49they'll just

00:44:49brought us

00:44:49a blanket.

00:44:50We pay,

00:44:50we pay,

00:44:51we pay,

00:44:52we don't

00:44:53mince.

00:44:54Don't knock

00:44:54you Dundee

00:44:54people.

00:44:56Okay, sorry

00:44:57about that for

00:44:57the Dundee

00:44:57fans and

00:44:58Stephen Presley.

00:44:59Let's talk

00:45:00about this

00:45:01season's

00:45:02champions.

00:45:02Hearts are

00:45:03away to

00:45:03Kilmarnock.

00:45:05Oh, come

00:45:06on Kelly.

00:45:10I'll tell

00:45:11you by the

00:45:11way,

00:45:12listen,

00:45:12if they

00:45:13beat Kilmarnock

00:45:14and they

00:45:15beat Celtic,

00:45:16are we now

00:45:17on overdrive?

00:45:18If you

00:45:19thought I

00:45:19would have

00:45:19sore stomach

00:45:20on Monday,

00:45:20you might

00:45:20see me next

00:45:21Monday.

00:45:23I think

00:45:24they've got

00:45:24two massive

00:45:25games coming

00:45:25up.

00:45:25Kilmarnock

00:45:25have started

00:45:26the season

00:45:26really strongly.

00:45:28Tough place

00:45:28to go.

00:45:29If Hearts

00:45:29can go

00:45:29down there

00:45:30and beat

00:45:30them,

00:45:30I think

00:45:31it's a

00:45:31later

00:45:31kick-off,

00:45:32it's live

00:45:32on TV,

00:45:32if they

00:45:33go down

00:45:33there and

00:45:33win and

00:45:34then beat

00:45:34Celtic,

00:45:35a lot of

00:45:36people will

00:45:36be taking

00:45:36them as

00:45:36title

00:45:37challengers,

00:45:37but there's

00:45:38a long way

00:45:38to go.

00:45:39I think

00:45:40Kilmarnock

00:45:40are capable

00:45:41of picking

00:45:41up a point

00:45:42against

00:45:42Hearts,

00:45:43but you

00:45:44wouldn't be

00:45:44surprised if

00:45:45Hearts go

00:45:46down and

00:45:46grind out

00:45:47a win,

00:45:47as they

00:45:47have been

00:45:48doing.

00:45:48It's a

00:45:48really big

00:45:49game for

00:45:49both clubs,

00:45:50but I'm

00:45:51going to

00:45:51go for

00:45:51a draw.

00:45:52Derek

00:45:53McInnes

00:45:53himself can

00:45:55look back

00:45:55with some

00:45:57pride at

00:45:57what he

00:45:57achieved at

00:45:59Kilmarnock,

00:45:59which eventually

00:46:00got him a

00:46:00move and

00:46:01he's going

00:46:01back there,

00:46:02maybe to

00:46:02say hello

00:46:03to a few

00:46:03friendly faces

00:46:04and thank

00:46:05a few for

00:46:05all the

00:46:06support he

00:46:06got at

00:46:06Rugby Park.

00:46:07I get the

00:46:08emotion of

00:46:08it all and

00:46:09how it

00:46:09quickly turned

00:46:10towards the

00:46:10back end of

00:46:11the season,

00:46:11but I can

00:46:13look myself

00:46:13in the mirror

00:46:14and say I

00:46:14did everything

00:46:15right by

00:46:15Kilmarnock.

00:46:17The only

00:46:17thing I was

00:46:18I'd said to

00:46:19them that if

00:46:20Hearts made

00:46:20the approach

00:46:21that I wanted

00:46:21to speak to

00:46:22Hearts and

00:46:23that was the

00:46:23only thing

00:46:24that probably

00:46:25didn't sit

00:46:27well with a

00:46:28lot of

00:46:28people at

00:46:28Kilmarnock,

00:46:29but the

00:46:29main people

00:46:30at the

00:46:30club,

00:46:30from Billy,

00:46:31Phyllis and

00:46:32Greg McEwan,

00:46:33they were all

00:46:34fully aware,

00:46:34but when I

00:46:36look back

00:46:37now, I

00:46:38made it

00:46:38clear, I

00:46:39made it

00:46:39known through

00:46:39my agent

00:46:40to Hearts

00:46:40and Kilmarnock

00:46:43that I

00:46:43wasn't going

00:46:44to speak to

00:46:44Hearts until

00:46:46Kilmarnock

00:46:46was safe,

00:46:47and I feel

00:46:48good about

00:46:48that.

00:46:49Yeah,

00:46:51Derek has

00:46:52certainly

00:46:53his stock

00:46:54has grown

00:46:55over the

00:46:56last few

00:46:57years,

00:46:58left

00:46:59Aberdeen,

00:47:01obviously I

00:47:02think he

00:47:02would himself

00:47:03say that

00:47:03they should

00:47:04have won

00:47:04a few more

00:47:04trophies

00:47:05while he

00:47:05was there

00:47:06with Tony

00:47:06Docherty,

00:47:08at Kilmarnock,

00:47:08good stability,

00:47:09kept him in the

00:47:10league,

00:47:11had to build

00:47:12a couple of

00:47:12sides at

00:47:14Rugby Park

00:47:14and then got

00:47:15that move

00:47:16to Hearts,

00:47:17I wonder how

00:47:17he'll be received

00:47:18when he goes

00:47:18down there,

00:47:19Pelter?

00:47:20Yeah,

00:47:20I think so,

00:47:20you know,

00:47:21I think most

00:47:23Kilmarnock fans

00:47:24would accept

00:47:24he'd done a

00:47:25good job at

00:47:26the club and

00:47:27would also

00:47:28appreciate that

00:47:29he's moved

00:47:30on to a

00:47:31bigger platform

00:47:32in Hearts,

00:47:33I was actually

00:47:34at Rugby Park

00:47:35at the end of

00:47:36last season and

00:47:37it was fairly

00:47:38clear,

00:47:38it was a

00:47:39farewell when

00:47:40he walked

00:47:41around the

00:47:41perimeter of

00:47:42the stadium

00:47:43and gave a

00:47:44wave to the

00:47:45Kilmarnock fans

00:47:46and then

00:47:47he wasn't

00:47:48very keen

00:47:48on talking

00:47:49about it

00:47:49when he

00:47:49came into

00:47:50the press

00:47:50room,

00:47:50there was

00:47:51a remit

00:47:52not to ask

00:47:53about the

00:47:54Hearts job

00:47:55and I think

00:47:55for any of us

00:47:57in the industry

00:47:57you know that

00:47:57that's pretty

00:47:58much a

00:47:58banker that

00:47:59is on the

00:48:00cards,

00:48:01I think

00:48:02it'll add

00:48:03a bit of

00:48:03spice to

00:48:04tomorrow's

00:48:04game,

00:48:05it adds

00:48:05an extra

00:48:06layer of

00:48:06intrigue

00:48:07but I'm

00:48:08curious about

00:48:08how Kilmarnock

00:48:09play,

00:48:10I think I've

00:48:10watched them

00:48:11the last couple

00:48:11of weeks,

00:48:12I was at

00:48:12the game

00:48:12against St

00:48:13Mirren,

00:48:13played very

00:48:14well,

00:48:14St

00:48:15Mirren just

00:48:15St Mirren

00:48:16looked very

00:48:16average against

00:48:17them and I've

00:48:18been impressed

00:48:18by St

00:48:18Mirren this

00:48:20term,

00:48:20I think

00:48:21Kilmarnock are

00:48:21difficult to

00:48:22play against

00:48:23particularly on

00:48:24that pitch and

00:48:24on their home

00:48:25surface so I'm

00:48:26curious to see

00:48:27how Hearts

00:48:28negotiate this

00:48:29challenge and

00:48:30then of course

00:48:30it opens up to

00:48:31the game against

00:48:32Celtic next

00:48:33Sunday.

00:48:34Well I have to

00:48:34say Ruffey,

00:48:35of all the

00:48:36teams I was

00:48:37impressed by

00:48:37Murlow,

00:48:38the way they

00:48:38went about

00:48:39their business,

00:48:39obviously you

00:48:41get impressed by

00:48:42Hebs but it

00:48:44hasn't quite

00:48:44turned itself

00:48:45into results,

00:48:46Hearts again,

00:48:47the bench

00:48:48comes on and

00:48:48makes a

00:48:49difference but

00:48:50I went up to

00:48:51Tanadice and

00:48:52watched Kilmarnock

00:48:53dismantle Dundee

00:48:54United because

00:48:55they were great

00:48:56to watch,

00:48:57young David

00:48:57Watson was

00:48:58good and

00:48:59the boy

00:49:01Thompson at

00:49:03the back,

00:49:04they've got some

00:49:04really good

00:49:06players,

00:49:06they've played

00:49:07some good

00:49:07football,

00:49:08Dakar's up

00:49:09front,

00:49:09the big tall

00:49:10guy,

00:49:10good touch

00:49:11for him as

00:49:11well,

00:49:12they've got

00:49:12some good

00:49:12footballers and

00:49:13this one's

00:49:14going to be

00:49:14really tough

00:49:15to call.

00:49:15I thought the

00:49:16result up at

00:49:18Dundee United

00:49:18was a surprise,

00:49:20I don't think

00:49:20anybody saw that

00:49:21result,

00:49:23yeah they've

00:49:23had two good

00:49:24results,

00:49:25they'll feel

00:49:25confident getting

00:49:26into the game

00:49:26but Hearts at

00:49:28this moment in

00:49:28time just seem

00:49:29to nick it

00:49:30when they need

00:49:31to and I

00:49:32think they'll

00:49:32do that at

00:49:32the weekend,

00:49:33I think it'll

00:49:33be great,

00:49:35I hope the

00:49:35weather's good

00:49:36because last

00:49:36week the wind

00:49:37didn't even

00:49:37killed it,

00:49:38so I'm going to

00:49:39go for Hearts

00:49:40to win 2-1,

00:49:40well a late

00:49:41goal 2-1.

00:49:42Good to see

00:49:42Halkirk in

00:49:43contract talks,

00:49:44I think he

00:49:45deserves that

00:49:46wee bit of

00:49:47luck the

00:49:47boy.

00:49:48Yeah I

00:49:48think he's

00:49:49a top

00:49:49player Peter,

00:49:50he's just

00:49:50been killed,

00:49:51crippled with

00:49:51injuries and

00:49:52very similar to

00:49:53John Suter

00:49:54probably at

00:49:54Hearts,

00:49:55a guy who

00:49:55you thought

00:49:56was a really

00:49:56good player

00:49:57but he's

00:49:57just constantly

00:49:57injured,

00:49:58so I

00:49:59think if

00:49:59Craig Halkirk

00:50:00can keep

00:50:00his form up

00:50:01at Hearts

00:50:01then he's

00:50:01got a real

00:50:02opportunity

00:50:02to get a

00:50:03sniff of

00:50:03the Scotland

00:50:03squad,

00:50:04but no

00:50:04blessed

00:50:04to centre

00:50:04half,

00:50:05so he's

00:50:06got good

00:50:06pace as

00:50:06well,

00:50:07so I

00:50:07agree,

00:50:08I think

00:50:08that he's

00:50:09started the

00:50:10season in

00:50:10flying form,

00:50:10him and

00:50:11Stuart Finlay

00:50:11are a

00:50:12formidable

00:50:12partnership

00:50:13at the

00:50:13back.

00:50:13Yeah well

00:50:14done to

00:50:14Derek

00:50:14McInnes,

00:50:15his second

00:50:16manager of

00:50:17the month

00:50:18and a

00:50:19late

00:50:193,600

00:50:21jambos

00:50:22going to

00:50:23the game

00:50:23and of

00:50:24course the

00:50:24great thing

00:50:24about

00:50:25forward

00:50:25thinking

00:50:26clubs

00:50:26like

00:50:27Kilmaric

00:50:27is they

00:50:27allow a

00:50:28huge

00:50:28away

00:50:29support

00:50:29which is

00:50:30great,

00:50:31and I

00:50:31was at

00:50:31the

00:50:31derby

00:50:31which was

00:50:32a proper

00:50:32derby

00:50:33because it

00:50:33had a

00:50:35huge

00:50:36one end

00:50:37where there

00:50:37was

00:50:38those numbers

00:50:38just reflect

00:50:39the excitement

00:50:40that the

00:50:40Harps fans

00:50:41have and

00:50:42how they've

00:50:43bought in

00:50:43to what

00:50:44Derek

00:50:44McInnes is

00:50:45doing,

00:50:45sitting at

00:50:46the top

00:50:46of the

00:50:46league,

00:50:47so much

00:50:47to be

00:50:47excited

00:50:48about and

00:50:48that's

00:50:49what happens

00:50:49when you

00:50:50start to

00:50:50bring a

00:50:51bit of

00:50:52momentum

00:50:52to the

00:50:53team and

00:50:53a bit

00:50:53of belief

00:50:54and people

00:50:55are desperate

00:50:56to be part

00:50:56of it.

00:50:57Yeah,

00:50:58absolutely.

00:50:58Give us

00:50:59your thoughts

00:50:59on the

00:51:00jambos,

00:51:01are they

00:51:01going to

00:51:01become a

00:51:02cropper,

00:51:02which

00:51:02obviously some

00:51:03people are

00:51:05hoping,

00:51:05happens,

00:51:07but you

00:51:08can give us

00:51:09your thoughts

00:51:09as this is

00:51:10where the

00:51:10bubble is

00:51:10going to

00:51:11burst the

00:51:11next two

00:51:11games.

00:51:12Killy and

00:51:13Celtic,

00:51:13if they took

00:51:14six points,

00:51:14would you

00:51:15think they

00:51:15were in

00:51:16the mix

00:51:16roughly to

00:51:17suddenly upset

00:51:18the

00:51:18apple cat?

00:51:18I think if

00:51:19they won

00:51:20the two

00:51:20games they

00:51:20could

00:51:20probably

00:51:21split the

00:51:22old

00:51:22for them.

00:51:24I'm not

00:51:24convinced that

00:51:25they're that

00:51:25good that

00:51:26they could

00:51:26go the

00:51:26whole season

00:51:27and win

00:51:27it.

00:51:29What's your

00:51:30prediction?

00:51:31Two-one

00:51:31hearts,

00:51:32let go.

00:51:34One each.

00:51:35One each.

00:51:36I'm going to

00:51:37go to the

00:51:37jambos to

00:51:38win 1-0

00:51:38and then

00:51:40all roads

00:51:41lead to

00:51:41timecastle.

00:51:42What's

00:51:42wrong with

00:51:42you?

00:51:43I'm just

00:51:43saying,

00:51:44fine.

00:51:45Every week.

00:51:47I'm doing

00:51:47not bad.

00:51:49They're top

00:51:49of the

00:51:50league.

00:51:50You should

00:51:51go to

00:51:51games.

00:51:51It's a

00:51:52really good

00:51:52thing.

00:51:52You get

00:51:53to see

00:51:53both teams

00:51:54play and

00:51:54the strengths

00:51:55and weaknesses

00:51:55of them.

00:51:56You and

00:51:56Ruffy should

00:51:56really take

00:51:57it up.

00:51:57It's a

00:51:58novelty.

00:51:59What about

00:52:00St Mirren

00:52:01against

00:52:01Aberdeen?

00:52:04Honestly,

00:52:04I couldn't

00:52:05stop laughing.

00:52:06No disrespect

00:52:06to him.

00:52:08As Ruffy

00:52:09mentioned to

00:52:09you, I

00:52:10did spot

00:52:11Nicky Devlin

00:52:12at one of

00:52:12our functions

00:52:13that we

00:52:13were at.

00:52:16In true

00:52:16fashion,

00:52:17I had to

00:52:18leather him.

00:52:18I asked

00:52:19him how

00:52:19the

00:52:19open

00:52:20bus

00:52:21parade was

00:52:21for winning

00:52:22the league

00:52:22game against

00:52:23Dundee,

00:52:24which went

00:52:24down like a

00:52:25lead balloon.

00:52:27But

00:52:27nevertheless,

00:52:28this is not

00:52:30at the moment

00:52:31unless something

00:52:33turns.

00:52:35I don't think

00:52:35it's that

00:52:36moment right

00:52:37now where

00:52:37Aberdeen are

00:52:38going to go

00:52:38to a long

00:52:38run.

00:52:39unless you're

00:52:39going to

00:52:39tell me

00:52:39different.

00:52:40Still a lot

00:52:40of questions

00:52:40to be

00:52:41answered.

00:52:43There were

00:52:43flashes of

00:52:44it against

00:52:45Motherwell at

00:52:46the game.

00:52:46They actually

00:52:47lost 2-0.

00:52:48You could

00:52:49see more

00:52:50positive

00:52:50signs,

00:52:51which they've

00:52:53managed to get

00:52:54the positive

00:52:56result.

00:52:56But it now

00:52:57is a case of

00:52:59trying to build

00:53:00a bit of

00:53:00momentum.

00:53:00I do think

00:53:01he's got

00:53:02players now

00:53:02hitting fitness

00:53:03and form

00:53:04that came in

00:53:04at the tail

00:53:05end of the

00:53:06window,

00:53:06like Stuart

00:53:07Armstrong,

00:53:07who should

00:53:08make a

00:53:09difference.

00:53:10But they

00:53:11need a

00:53:11consistent run

00:53:12of form

00:53:12across the

00:53:13next couple

00:53:13of weeks.

00:53:14We'll try

00:53:15and react to

00:53:16some of the

00:53:17messages.

00:53:18Thank you so

00:53:18much to so

00:53:19many of you

00:53:19who put

00:53:20messages on

00:53:20the live

00:53:22board.

00:53:23Kenny

00:53:23says,

00:53:24Peter hates

00:53:24the Dons.

00:53:26I genuinely

00:53:27don't hate

00:53:29Aberdeen at

00:53:30all.

00:53:30I think

00:53:31it's a

00:53:31fantastic

00:53:32club and

00:53:33I think

00:53:33it's run

00:53:33by thoroughly

00:53:34decent people

00:53:36and Dave

00:53:36Cormack and

00:53:37I'm a huge

00:53:38fan of Alan

00:53:39Burrows.

00:53:39But I

00:53:40just think

00:53:41at this

00:53:42moment,

00:53:42I don't

00:53:43think anybody

00:53:43is fooled

00:53:44by his

00:53:44record.

00:53:45I think

00:53:45he's got

00:53:45a long

00:53:46way to

00:53:46go.

00:53:46He's

00:53:46linked

00:53:47with the

00:53:48Swedish

00:53:49job and

00:53:49you wonder

00:53:50if it

00:53:52would be

00:53:53a really

00:53:53convenient

00:53:54out for

00:53:55both.

00:53:57No,

00:53:57I don't

00:53:58hate the

00:53:58Dons.

00:53:58I'm not

00:54:00fooled by

00:54:00what I'm

00:54:01watching.

00:54:01I think

00:54:02the Dons

00:54:03fans as

00:54:03well,

00:54:04they're

00:54:04looking for

00:54:05something,

00:54:05they're

00:54:05looking for

00:54:06a change.

00:54:07I think

00:54:07as you

00:54:08said,

00:54:09the

00:54:09emissions

00:54:10of

00:54:10Armstrong,

00:54:12I like

00:54:12the boy

00:54:13Carlson.

00:54:13I think

00:54:14they're

00:54:15a wee bit

00:54:16away from

00:54:17getting it

00:54:17right.

00:54:18Whether

00:54:18they can

00:54:19catch

00:54:19St.

00:54:20Myrne

00:54:20on a

00:54:20wee bit

00:54:20of a

00:54:21downer

00:54:21just

00:54:21now is

00:54:22another

00:54:22thing.

00:54:23I think

00:54:23the most

00:54:24they could

00:54:24probably get

00:54:25out of the

00:54:25game would

00:54:25be a draw.

00:54:27Three wins

00:54:27out of four

00:54:28against

00:54:29Aberdeen

00:54:29last season.

00:54:31Even

00:54:31Robinson knows

00:54:32how to win

00:54:32against them.

00:54:33They had

00:54:33Indian

00:54:33sign over

00:54:34them.

00:54:34I just

00:54:35think

00:54:35outmuscled

00:54:36them

00:54:36physically

00:54:36in a lot

00:54:37of those

00:54:37games.

00:54:37I'm not

00:54:40so sure

00:54:41of it.

00:54:41I think

00:54:41Aberdeen

00:54:41might be

00:54:42at St.

00:54:42Myrne

00:54:42here.

00:54:44I was

00:54:44impressed

00:54:44with

00:54:44Aberdeen

00:54:45against

00:54:45Dundee.

00:54:46I think

00:54:46guys like

00:54:47Carlson,

00:54:47Nisbet,

00:54:48Armstrong

00:54:49have had

00:54:49a couple

00:54:49of weeks

00:54:49in an

00:54:50international

00:54:50break to

00:54:50get some

00:54:51fitness

00:54:51work in.

00:54:52They've

00:54:52obviously

00:54:53played a

00:54:53few games

00:54:53before then.

00:54:54I think

00:54:54they've

00:54:55got a

00:54:55really

00:54:55good

00:54:55squad

00:54:56of

00:54:56players.

00:54:56I

00:54:56think

00:54:57they've

00:54:57got a

00:54:57better

00:54:57squad

00:54:57of

00:54:57players

00:54:58than

00:54:58St.

00:54:58Myrne.

00:54:59I think

00:55:00if they

00:55:00can stand

00:55:01up to

00:55:01that

00:55:01physical

00:55:01test

00:55:03at

00:55:03St.

00:55:03Myrne

00:55:03Park

00:55:03you're

00:55:04always

00:55:04going to

00:55:04get

00:55:05under

00:55:05Stephen

00:55:05Robertson

00:55:06then I

00:55:06think

00:55:06Aberdeen

00:55:07can

00:55:07win.

00:55:07I don't

00:55:08know if

00:55:08it's

00:55:08an

00:55:08upset

00:55:08or not

00:55:09but I

00:55:10think

00:55:10Aberdeen

00:55:10will beat

00:55:10them.

00:55:11I'm

00:55:11going to

00:55:11go for

00:55:112-1

00:55:11to

00:55:11Aberdeen.

00:55:12I'll

00:55:12go 1-1

00:55:13Ali.

00:55:14I'm

00:55:14going to

00:55:14say

00:55:151-1.

00:55:16Thanks

00:55:17to

00:55:18Ronnie

00:55:18Chapman

00:55:18who

00:55:19says

00:55:19Peter

00:55:19would

00:55:19you

00:55:19not

00:55:19consider

00:55:20moving

00:55:20the

00:55:20show

00:55:20from

00:55:214-5

00:55:22o'clock

00:55:22because

00:55:23obviously

00:55:24more

00:55:25people

00:55:25tune

00:55:26in.

00:55:28It's a

00:55:28great

00:55:28point.

00:55:29We

00:55:29actually

00:55:29go live

00:55:30at 4

00:55:30o'clock

00:55:31to give

00:55:32everybody

00:55:32a chance

00:55:33who

00:55:33like

00:55:34having

00:55:35a go

00:55:35giving

00:55:36their

00:55:36opinion

00:55:36and

00:55:37then

00:55:37there's

00:55:37obviously

00:55:37the

00:55:37other

00:55:38people

00:55:38who

00:55:38like

00:55:39just

00:55:39going

00:55:39in

00:55:39and

00:55:40battering

00:55:40each

00:55:40other

00:55:40and

00:55:41forget

00:55:41about

00:55:41what

00:55:41everybody

00:55:41is

00:55:42talking

00:55:42about

00:55:42but

00:55:43the

00:55:44good

00:55:44thing

00:55:44about

00:55:44it

00:55:44is

00:55:44and

00:55:46this

00:55:46is

00:55:46our

00:55:46insight

00:55:47and

00:55:47all

00:55:48of

00:55:49our

00:55:49research

00:55:50is

00:55:50that

00:55:50the

00:55:51majority

00:55:51of

00:55:51people

00:55:51watch

00:55:52the

00:55:53programme

00:55:53at

00:55:53their

00:55:53own

00:55:53leisure

00:55:54later

00:55:54on

00:55:54at

00:55:54night

00:55:55and

00:55:55that's

00:55:55the

00:55:56great

00:55:56thing

00:55:56near

00:55:56and

00:55:56far

00:55:57UK

00:55:57Canada

00:55:58America

00:55:59Australia

00:56:00New

00:56:00Zealand

00:56:00we've

00:56:01got

00:56:01a

00:56:01great

00:56:01support

00:56:02the

00:56:02majority

00:56:03from

00:56:03here

00:56:03in

00:56:04the

00:56:04UK

00:56:04and

00:56:04Scotland

00:56:05and

00:56:05we're

00:56:05absolutely

00:56:06delighted

00:56:06Ronnie

00:56:06it's

00:56:07a

00:56:07great

00:56:08suggestion

00:56:08but

00:56:08the

00:56:09people

00:56:09who

00:56:09tune

00:56:09in

00:56:09for

00:56:10the

00:56:10live

00:56:10aspect

00:56:11of

00:56:11it

00:56:11is

00:56:11greatly

00:56:12appreciated

00:56:13but

00:56:13the

00:56:14majority

00:56:14of

00:56:14people

00:56:15and

00:56:15amazingly

00:56:15Ruffy

00:56:16which

00:56:16we've

00:56:16found

00:56:17out

00:56:17is

00:56:17of

00:56:18all

00:56:18the

00:56:18people

00:56:18who

00:56:18subscribe

00:56:19there

00:56:19are

00:56:1970%

00:56:20who

00:56:20watch

00:56:20the

00:56:20programme

00:56:21regularly

00:56:21who

00:56:22don't

00:56:22subscribe

00:56:22so we

00:56:23hope

00:56:23they're

00:56:23going to

00:56:23hit that

00:56:23button

00:56:24yeah

00:56:25well

00:56:25you're

00:56:25giving

00:56:25them

00:56:25more

00:56:25to

00:56:26watch

00:56:26now

00:56:26you're

00:56:27more

00:56:27substance

00:56:28in

00:56:28the

00:56:28things

00:56:29that

00:56:29were

00:56:29putting

00:56:29out

00:56:29there

00:56:30so you

00:56:30would

00:56:30like

00:56:31to

00:56:31think

00:56:31that

00:56:31they

00:56:31would

00:56:31log

00:56:32into

00:56:32that

00:56:32push

00:56:32the

00:56:33subscribe

00:56:33button

00:56:33on

00:56:33PLZ

00:56:34soccer

00:56:34yeah

00:56:35absolutely

00:56:35well

00:56:35the

00:56:35great

00:56:35thing

00:56:36is

00:56:36as Cheryl

00:56:36one of

00:56:37our

00:56:37fine

00:56:37reporters

00:56:39mentioned

00:56:39to us

00:56:40it was

00:56:41great

00:56:41because

00:56:41you could

00:56:41say

00:56:42tune

00:56:42in

00:56:42because

00:56:42there's

00:56:43three

00:56:43really

00:56:43good

00:56:43after

00:56:44dinner

00:56:44speakers

00:56:44but

00:56:45there's

00:56:46only

00:56:46two

00:56:46now

00:56:47you get

00:56:48a body

00:56:49blow

00:56:49and it

00:56:49affects

00:56:50the whole

00:56:50you must

00:56:50have had

00:56:51a

00:56:51confidence

00:56:55affected

00:56:56by it

00:56:56I bounced

00:56:57back on

00:56:57Sunday

00:56:58I just

00:56:59put it

00:56:59to the

00:57:00back

00:57:00burner

00:57:00just like

00:57:00the

00:57:00football

00:57:01if you have

00:57:02a bad

00:57:02game

00:57:02you've

00:57:02got to

00:57:03put it

00:57:03out

00:57:03there

00:57:03and

00:57:03go

00:57:04on

00:57:04with

00:57:04it

00:57:04yeah

00:57:04absolutely

00:57:05and I'll

00:57:06tell you

00:57:06the

00:57:06bowls

00:57:07the whole

00:57:08audience

00:57:09was up

00:57:10or those

00:57:10that could

00:57:10be helped

00:57:11up

00:57:11to give

00:57:12him a

00:57:13standing

00:57:13ovation

00:57:13it was

00:57:13fantastic

00:57:14so

00:57:15thank you

00:57:16very much

00:57:17and Rob

00:57:18Lily says

00:57:19only 15

00:57:20likes

00:57:21on that

00:57:23one there

00:57:23Rob

00:57:24believe me

00:57:25we don't

00:57:25live by

00:57:26people

00:57:26like

00:57:26do you

00:57:27on Facebook

00:57:28Ali

00:57:28do you

00:57:29live your

00:57:30life by

00:57:30somebody

00:57:30saying

00:57:31they like

00:57:31you

00:57:31no

00:57:32I very

00:57:33rarely post

00:57:34private stuff

00:57:35or personal

00:57:35stuff on

00:57:36any social media

00:57:37platforms

00:57:37I'm too old

00:57:39for that

00:57:39yeah

00:57:40Ruffy

00:57:40have you

00:57:40got a

00:57:41Facebook

00:57:41page

00:57:41you know

00:57:41Facebook

00:57:42don't want

00:57:43to take

00:57:43the chance

00:57:44that people

00:57:44don't like

00:57:44me

00:57:45in contrast

00:57:49terms

00:57:50we're all

00:57:50used to

00:57:50Hibbs

00:57:51against

00:57:52Livingston

00:57:52let's hear

00:57:54from Kerry

00:57:54Pollock

00:57:55here at

00:57:55Livingston

00:57:56today

00:57:56David

00:57:56Martindale

00:57:57looks ahead

00:57:57to his

00:57:58side's

00:57:58clash

00:57:58with

00:57:58Hibbs

00:57:59a team

00:57:59he feels

00:58:00are definitely

00:58:00going to

00:58:01push for

00:58:01a top

00:58:02spot

00:58:02this season

00:58:03for me

00:58:04Malky's

00:58:04a really

00:58:05really good

00:58:06footballing

00:58:07person

00:58:07you've now

00:58:07got someone

00:58:08within the

00:58:09building

00:58:09upstairs

00:58:10helping make

00:58:12good football

00:58:12decisions

00:58:13which helps

00:58:14David

00:58:14massively

00:58:15and David

00:58:16knows the

00:58:16club

00:58:16inside out

00:58:17and he's

00:58:17got a

00:58:18really good

00:58:18group of

00:58:19players

00:58:19and I

00:58:19think they've

00:58:19recruited

00:58:20really really

00:58:20well this

00:58:21year

00:58:21so I feel

00:58:23as long as

00:58:24I've got that

00:58:24balance right

00:58:25in terms of

00:58:26upstairs

00:58:26downstairs

00:58:27there's always

00:58:27going to be

00:58:28a competitive

00:58:29club trying to

00:58:30get in the top

00:58:31four

00:58:32if I want

00:58:32a better word

00:58:33as a nation

00:58:34we are known

00:58:34to be a little

00:58:35critical and

00:58:36that's something

00:58:36that Martindale

00:58:37feels is more

00:58:38evident than

00:58:38ever in the

00:58:39Scottish game

00:58:40I just think

00:58:41now everybody's

00:58:42looking for

00:58:43content

00:58:44headlines

00:58:45and that drives

00:58:46a negative

00:58:47narrative within

00:58:48the game

00:58:49I bring boys

00:58:50up from

00:58:51down south

00:58:51I've had boys

00:58:52come in from

00:58:53top top level

00:58:55in European

00:58:56football

00:58:56and I'll tell

00:58:59you what

00:58:59they're no

00:59:00much better

00:59:02than us

00:59:02but if you

00:59:04listen to the

00:59:04narrative down

00:59:05south

00:59:05the marketing

00:59:06the financials

00:59:07you would be

00:59:08led to believe

00:59:09that we're

00:59:09kind of

00:59:10a lower class

00:59:12league

00:59:12down south

00:59:14magnificent

00:59:14and everybody's

00:59:15brilliant

00:59:16I don't see

00:59:17that

00:59:17I genuinely

00:59:18don't see

00:59:18that

00:59:18I think the

00:59:19marketing of

00:59:20the products

00:59:20better

00:59:21I think the

00:59:21financials of

00:59:22the products

00:59:23far greater

00:59:24but I think

00:59:25the level of

00:59:26Scottish football

00:59:26we're very

00:59:28very good

00:59:29at underselling

00:59:30it

00:59:30Livingston

00:59:31heads at

00:59:31Easter Road

00:59:32this weekend

00:59:32kick off

00:59:33is at

00:59:333 o'clock

00:59:34Yeah

00:59:35he's got

00:59:35kicking out

00:59:37against

00:59:38bundits

00:59:38vloggers

00:59:39everybody

00:59:39who should

00:59:40be promoting

00:59:40the game

00:59:41I think

00:59:41he makes a

00:59:42great point

00:59:42Peter

00:59:43I think

00:59:43he's right

00:59:44with English

00:59:45Premier League

00:59:45you sit

00:59:45and watch

00:59:46a game

00:59:46on a Sunday

00:59:46you watch

00:59:48I don't know

00:59:48fool him

00:59:49against

00:59:49Bournemouth

00:59:49and be

00:59:490-0

00:59:50by Rotten

00:59:51looking at

00:59:52that and going

00:59:52this might be

00:59:53the best league

00:59:53in the world

00:59:54so there's a lot

00:59:54of crap games

00:59:55down there

00:59:56as well

00:59:56it's not

00:59:56just us up

00:59:57here

00:59:57so I think

00:59:58he makes

00:59:58a great point

00:59:58obviously the

00:59:59other one

01:00:00about the

01:00:00vloggers

01:00:00and the

01:00:01youtubers

01:00:01and all

01:00:01that

01:00:02I think

01:00:03that's just

01:00:04the way

01:00:04social media

01:00:05now

01:00:05everybody's

01:00:05got an

01:00:06opinion

01:00:06and I

01:00:07don't think

01:00:08that football

01:00:08people take

01:00:09those opinions

01:00:10too seriously

01:00:12in terms of

01:00:12youtubers

01:00:13and guys

01:00:13like that

01:00:13OK

01:00:14who's winning

01:00:14Hibs 3-1

01:00:162-0 Hibs

01:00:173-0 Hibs

01:00:182-1 Hibs

01:00:19OK

01:00:20Motherwell

01:00:20against Falkirk

01:00:21here's Kerry

01:00:22The Scottish

01:00:23Premiership

01:00:24returns this

01:00:25weekend

01:00:25with Motherwell

01:00:25welcoming

01:00:26Falkirk

01:00:26here to

01:00:27Firth Park

01:00:27this Saturday

01:00:28and the

01:00:29manager

01:00:29Jens Berthel

01:00:30Ascu

01:00:30insists

01:00:30his side

01:00:31must leave

01:00:31the disappointment

01:00:32of Celtic

01:00:33Park

01:00:33behind them

01:00:34I don't

01:00:35think

01:00:35you have

01:00:37to leave

01:00:38things behind

01:00:39you

01:00:39and move

01:00:40on

01:00:40but thinking

01:00:41about it

01:00:41now

01:00:42obviously

01:00:43we are

01:00:44still

01:00:44gutted

01:00:46that we

01:00:46went home

01:00:49from Park

01:00:50without

01:00:50any points

01:00:51but

01:00:52I think

01:00:54the performance

01:00:55and our

01:00:55approach

01:00:56to the game

01:00:57gives us

01:00:57some really

01:00:58good confidence

01:00:59as to

01:01:00how to

01:01:00be able

01:01:01to beat

01:01:01them

01:01:01when we

01:01:02play

01:01:03them

01:01:03next time

01:01:03Despite

01:01:04almost

01:01:05taking

01:01:05maximum

01:01:05points

01:01:06in Glasgow

01:01:06the manager

01:01:07insists

01:01:07that his

01:01:08side

01:01:08won't

01:01:08overlook

01:01:09Falkirk

01:01:09this weekend

01:01:10There's no

01:01:13arrogance

01:01:13in this

01:01:13club

01:01:13there shouldn't

01:01:15be

01:01:15and we

01:01:17know

01:01:17that all

01:01:18teams

01:01:18are very

01:01:19capable

01:01:19of

01:01:20we've

01:01:20seen

01:01:20that

01:01:21the

01:01:22games

01:01:24against

01:01:25the

01:01:25smallest

01:01:25clubs

01:01:25have

01:01:26been

01:01:26just

01:01:26as

01:01:26difficult

01:01:28for us

01:01:29as

01:01:29the

01:01:30games

01:01:30against

01:01:30the

01:01:30big

01:01:30clubs

01:01:31and

01:01:32Falkirk

01:01:34is also

01:01:34a team

01:01:34that has

01:01:35done

01:01:35really well

01:01:36over the

01:01:36last

01:01:37seasons

01:01:38and who

01:01:38are

01:01:38very

01:01:38confident

01:01:39there's

01:01:39a lot

01:01:40of

01:01:40consistency

01:01:40in the

01:01:41squad

01:01:41and the

01:01:41coaching

01:01:41staff

01:01:42and you

01:01:43saw

01:01:43them

01:01:43against

01:01:43Rangers

01:01:44that

01:01:44they

01:01:44were

01:01:44very

01:01:44competitive

01:01:45and

01:01:46made

01:01:46it

01:01:46a

01:01:47really

01:01:47difficult

01:01:47game

01:01:48for

01:01:48Rangers

01:01:48so I

01:01:49expect

01:01:49them to

01:01:50come

01:01:50here

01:01:51and be

01:01:51brave

01:01:51it all

01:01:52takes

01:01:52place

01:01:52here

01:01:53this

01:01:53weekend

01:01:53Motherwell

01:01:54against

01:01:54Falkirk

01:01:54kick-off

01:01:55is at

01:01:553 o'clock

01:01:56yeah

01:01:57thanks to

01:01:58Kerry

01:01:58Paul Brady

01:01:59says

01:01:59Kerry

01:01:59got a

01:02:00helicopter

01:02:00by any

01:02:01chance

01:02:01yeah

01:02:02well

01:02:03she did

01:02:03the helicopter

01:02:05didn't change

01:02:06direction at

01:02:07any point

01:02:08Ruffy

01:02:08Motherwell

01:02:09against

01:02:09Falkirk

01:02:10looking forward

01:02:11to it

01:02:11I think

01:02:11there were

01:02:11lots of

01:02:12goals

01:02:12and if

01:02:13it hadn't

01:02:14have been

01:02:14for your

01:02:14goalkeepers

01:02:15union

01:02:15Motherwell

01:02:16for me

01:02:16could have had

01:02:16three points

01:02:17against Celtic

01:02:18possibly

01:02:19yeah

01:02:20obviously

01:02:20they let

01:02:20go for

01:02:21Celtic

01:02:21if the

01:02:21boy

01:02:22hadn't

01:02:22made that

01:02:23mistake

01:02:23they probably

01:02:24got something

01:02:24out of the

01:02:24game

01:02:25I think

01:02:26they really

01:02:26need to

01:02:26start winning

01:02:27games

01:02:27I think

01:02:28we all

01:02:28agree

01:02:28they're

01:02:29playing

01:02:29good

01:02:29football

01:02:29but they've

01:02:30only won

01:02:30one game

01:02:30in the

01:02:31league

01:02:31they need

01:02:33to start

01:02:33picking up

01:02:34three points

01:02:34because this

01:02:35is the kind

01:02:36of game

01:02:36that Falkirk

01:02:36will go

01:02:37there and

01:02:37try and

01:02:37get a

01:02:38point

01:02:38and every

01:02:38point

01:02:39will be

01:02:39precious

01:02:39for them

01:02:40yeah

01:02:40absolutely

01:02:41what are

01:02:41you going

01:02:41for?

01:02:42one

01:02:42five goals

01:02:46thanks for

01:02:47that Ali

01:02:47I'm looking

01:02:47forward to

01:02:474-2

01:02:48at Motherwell

01:02:49yeah

01:02:49okay

01:02:50I'll go

01:02:503-1

01:02:51Motherwell

01:02:51give us

01:02:52your thoughts

01:02:53on it

01:02:53as well

01:02:54a great

01:02:54game

01:02:54I think

01:02:55fantastic

01:02:55really looking

01:02:58forward to

01:02:58don't forget

01:02:58to look for

01:02:59Tam and

01:03:00myself

01:03:00giving you

01:03:01the odds

01:03:01on these

01:03:03games

01:03:03and you

01:03:03can give

01:03:04us your

01:03:04predictions

01:03:04on that

01:03:05as well

01:03:05David Moyes

01:03:06is out there

01:03:07on our

01:03:07YouTube

01:03:08channel

01:03:08you can

01:03:08listen to

01:03:09him

01:03:09talking

01:03:09about

01:03:10of course

01:03:11his career

01:03:11with Everton

01:03:12on two

01:03:13occasions

01:03:13winning that

01:03:14European

01:03:14trophy

01:03:15at West Ham

01:03:16and over

01:03:17and above

01:03:18that

01:03:18his thoughts

01:03:19on Steve

01:03:19Clark

01:03:19in Scotland

01:03:20and his

01:03:20time at

01:03:21Manchester

01:03:21United

01:03:21well worth

01:03:22having a

01:03:23listen to

01:03:23and there's

01:03:24lots of

01:03:25great content

01:03:25coming up

01:03:26that I think

01:03:27you're going

01:03:27to enjoy

01:03:28on PLZ

01:03:28Soccer

01:03:29thanks to

01:03:30everyone

01:03:30for their

01:03:30opinion

01:03:30we value

01:03:31it greatly

01:03:32for those

01:03:33who don't

01:03:33listen to

01:03:34it live

01:03:34and don't

01:03:35watch it

01:03:35live

01:03:35we also

01:03:36would like

01:03:36you to

01:03:37hit the

01:03:37like

01:03:38share

01:03:38follow

01:03:39and over

01:03:40and above

01:03:40that

01:03:41if you

01:03:41want to

01:03:42join us

01:03:42on PLZ

01:03:42premium

01:03:43you might

01:03:43get a

01:03:43chance

01:03:44to head

01:03:45to Budapest

01:03:46to the

01:03:47Puskas Arena

01:03:47Champions League

01:03:48final

01:03:49two tickets

01:03:50and of course

01:03:51flights and

01:03:52accommodation

01:03:52as well

01:03:53you'll be in

01:03:54the prize draw

01:03:55the minute

01:03:55you subscribe

01:03:55to that

01:03:56for the

01:03:57season

01:03:57okay

01:03:57thank you

01:03:58very much

01:03:59to lots

01:03:59of people

01:04:00Rob

01:04:00Lilly

01:04:00says

01:04:01Moyes

01:04:01was a

01:04:01good

01:04:01listen

01:04:02shared it

01:04:03with

01:04:03an

01:04:03Evertonian

01:04:04thank you

01:04:04Rob

01:04:04for that

01:04:05we really

01:04:05do

01:04:05appreciate

01:04:06you

01:04:06sharing

01:04:07it

01:04:07as well

01:04:08and we

01:04:09take your

01:04:09points

01:04:09on board

01:04:10we try

01:04:10and build

01:04:11as big

01:04:12as we

01:04:12possibly

01:04:13can

01:04:13we're up

01:04:13against

01:04:13the big

01:04:14guns

01:04:14but seven

01:04:14days a

01:04:15week

01:04:15Ali

01:04:16our reporter

01:04:16Cheryl

01:04:17Kerry

01:04:17Cara

01:04:19out there

01:04:19as well

01:04:20lots of content

01:04:22from Kobe

01:04:22up in the

01:04:23northeast

01:04:23as well

01:04:24and Moira

01:04:25out in the

01:04:26northeast

01:04:27too

01:04:27out there

01:04:28in Edinburgh

01:04:28keeping you

01:04:30right up to

01:04:30date with it

01:04:31all and Cheryl

01:04:31absolutely

01:04:32well she's the

01:04:33engine in the

01:04:34whole machine

01:04:34as well

01:04:35keeping this

01:04:36all going

01:04:36so every

01:04:37one of them

01:04:37doing their

01:04:38job to

01:04:39try and

01:04:39bring you

01:04:39as much

01:04:40good content

01:04:41as possible

01:04:42hit the

01:04:42like share

01:04:42and follow

01:04:43and from

01:04:43Ruffy

01:04:43who's bounced

01:04:45back and

01:04:46is now big

01:04:46in the

01:04:47Bulls clubs

01:04:48but not

01:04:49big audiences

01:04:50because then

01:04:50he gets

01:04:51stage fright

01:04:52thanks to

01:04:53Alison

01:04:53don't forget

01:04:54to put out

01:04:55your blue

01:04:55bin on a

01:04:56blue bin

01:04:56day or

01:04:58you're going

01:04:58to get

01:04:58pelters and

01:04:59if anybody's

01:05:00got any

01:05:01spare oysters

01:05:01could you

01:05:02send them

01:05:02in for

01:05:03Tam

01:05:03to see if

01:05:04he's going

01:05:04to take

01:05:04another

01:05:05couple of

01:05:05weeks off

01:05:06because he's

01:05:06dealing

01:05:06poorly

01:05:07thanks to

01:05:08everyone for

01:05:09listening and

01:05:09watching

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